I agree

any of you have a lot of lags lately???

Last few days I can,t play a single hand... no matter how many tables I play 1 or 5 or whatever every single time it loooks the same... I see my decisions at the end of my time, every time it goes just to the end. it sits me out every few hands etc...

My internet connection is very fast and working fine all the time and my PC is very good too expecially for Ongame standards...

My friend playing at different Ongame skin has the same issues last few days...

Do you know anything about it?
Somehow I couldn,t find anybody talkind about it and still seee many regs playing so I assume not everybody has the same problems...

Hope it will be fixed soon...

I had that error a few times.
Today it just started disconnecting me.

no lag here
*pats his SSD*
*knocks on wood*


and no more missing money since I left RK, go figure
*knocks on wood again*

Im still stuck at RK
Just hate the points race and tourney points count as 50%.
I still envy your SSD, Im just waiting for the 120GB versions to drop down a bit and Ill buy it

to SNG regs: Im seeing Ongame.fr in sharkscope what does this mean?

ongame.fr = french only ongame

there are a few threads around about it.

is that what winamax has become?

Betfair joining Ongame network confirmed today

Yippieh!

So sick being a Betfair player.

Not only will they now find themselves on a Network with better regs, they also bring their existing deals with them which are likely worse too.

Still, Ongame will be a much more attractive proposition for new players now.....

Are you saying that games on betfair are much softer? I play on betfair at nl50 6m and i like the tables, but at nl100+ the traffic is kinda weak.

Opinion suggests that the standard of play is generally weaker due to the fact that a larger portion of their player base comes from gamblers using the betting facility, rather than players that are mainly poker players that happen to dabble in the occasional bet.

Players used to look to play at Ladbrokes for this very reason but now they are all mixed in with the rest of the Microgaming player pool so that argumant no longer applies.

does it mean that for an Ongame skin to see French players they must get a license from France? And non-licensed skins are not on the Ongame.fr network?


and how high or low is Betfair traffic?

Betfair probably has similar player numbers to a Network like Merge.

See here... http://www.pokerscout.com/

From what I understand, yes. Apparently they have to pay $X to French gov for a licence, then pay 2% of rake to French gov.

Apparently other euros may be able to play on .fr sites if they have a euro bank account number or something.

Basically poker sites that want/have a french licence are splitting to .fr sites for all french and .com sites for all other (besides italians who already have some of their own sites). Sites that dont have a licence (FTP for example) are just ignoring it and letting frenchies continue to play on the .com site.

The thread either here or in NVG has the rake structures for SNGs on Winamax, PS and maybe some others.

A lot has been said about DON collusions lately and I just want to add this bit.
Id actually start being carefull while playing mid to high level DONs on ongame. This goes for turbos, others barely run anyway.
I am not saying all out collusion is going on, but due to low traffic, bunch of regs have a very visible pattern of soft play going on.
I am not saying its by design, probably more down to familiarity and a bit of buddy, buddy concept, but it has goten so bad lately I was actually thinking of filling a report.
Its tricky though since its really bordeline. Like, first everyone obviously looks after themselves, so not all out collusion where benefit to the group is first objective. But, if they can harm someone else then the buddy, when not in any kind of trouble, they will save the buddy and coop on someone else. Now to the latter, pattern is more then obvious and Id dare say consistent. One could call it targeted coop .

There are even some very interesting SS graph upswings, where say some high traffic individuals being down up to couple of 10Gs are now almost reaching break even point.
Guess this guys didnt care about the ROI before when times were good but now they do, or is it maybe a bit of this silent agreement in the works as well, dunno just speculating here, thats all.

Everything should go back to normal when traffic picks up in fall and this kind of play has a lot less impact with less regs at any given table. Now with low traffic soft play might have become a way for some to achieve higher ROI and compensate for lack of RB.

Anyhow suggest being carefull, thats all.

Does anyone know the date that Betfair players will merge to OnGame?

From Tower:

"A brand new system of player management is being implemented on July 15th, 2010. Under this new system, player points will be calculated differently. You may notice a change in your rake and point generation."



I suspect this is going to be a disaster. This is the implementation of that idea OnGame had where winning players are not worth nearly as much as the current rakeback/rewards system values them at. In other words goodbye 60%+ RB. (And goodbye OnGame imo.) This is going to be a total money grab. It wont go to losing players, it will go to the network/skins.

supposedly 27th of July

Well we ll see, but if worst case scenario happens it sure will fix DON softplay I mentioned before quickly enough
If all the regs leave it might actually be worth staying

EDIT not seeing anything on this btw, is this really ongame wide change comming on 15th, have I been out of the loop so much?

MTTs and SNGs are not affected by the change according to the email I got from Tower.

great thanks dj

Nothing from Hollywood

On 15.07.2010, ongame will change the calculation system for Poker Points. Whenever you play against opponents who, based on their current results, could be considered better than you, you will earn more Poker Points.

- Doesn't that mean I will get fewer points sometimes?
Yes, but only when you're in a great position to dominate a table.

- How many extra points can I earn?
Playing on the exact same type of table against vastly different opponents may mean that your collectable share on a table is significantly higher on one table than the other.

- How does it affect tournaments?
It doesn't. You still collect 5 Poker Points per $ entry fee paid to participate in a tournament.

- How will I know how good my opponents are?
The only way to find it out is by playing them.

- I'm getting way less points than I used to. What's happened?
Maybe you're playing regularly in a game you already, frankly, master. Maybe you're just on great form and have been sending players to the rail lately. Maybe you've switched to a less active style of play.

- So my bonus will clear faster if I play poker cash games against tougher opponents?
Yes, but be careful, it will not prevent you from potentially losing of course.

So whoever you play against, at whatever table, as long as you do play, you will always have the upper hand in some way.

If you have an active bonus in your account on 15.07.2010, the expiry date will be extended by 7 days to give you some more time to get used to the new calculation system.

You know what I am not exactly sure I hate this, infact this might actually be a way forward. It brings some fairness to the poker RB system.
It sure will get rid of a "I am a nit, rolled for NLgazillion but will play at nl100 forever because I want to make it easy on myself" crowd, fairly quickly.
Would not be all too surprised if Stars copied this sometime in the future.
Of course on the other hand its the vagueness of it thats problematic.