I WANT THE 5 VOTERS WHO SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH SEATING SCRIPS HEADS ON A STICK NOW!!!

Haha LOL. Dispatch the assassins this second.

Nah obviously not a big deal, especially as these things don't effect most people not playing in big games. Just thought I would make the point. Maybe it came across as if I think it matters more than I actually do.

Can you tell me the difference between

Seating Scripts, Sitout Abuse. What Party did for Sitout abuse seems fine and logical. Cant Stars emulate that?

Just to clarify that it's not hidden.

Voted b/c GGRJ basically said that those scared to vote against the majority need their vaginas shaved.
But for real, I'm not supporting nor against it, just don't see much wrong when stars allows it and people using it to gain some kind of edge in a completely legal way.
Fwiw, I don't even use one and I don't even know any poker friends who does.
Agree tho it would be healthier for the sake of online poker future if they would ban them, but right now it is what it is..

Just to be clear, I have absolutely no intention of comparing scripters to cheaters, they are simply exploiting the latitude allowed by the current ToS.

If you think their behaviour is bad for the games, this is your chance to try and change the ToS.

yeh, i got the intetion of this thread wrong
obv would be nice to change that indeed

Any inputs on my Question please..?

You mean sitting out when the fish sits out? Hard to compare the two, but sit-out abuse looks pretty bad to the fish too, no doubt.

Sit out one table = sit out all tables policy is pretty popular afaik, I can bring it up during the general discussion on seating issues on Friday

Yes Party had it last month. Its doing ok there

when a new table starts, everyone gets asked if they accept the possibility of having to post big blind or small blind, for example 10 second time to click.

if someone does not accept, he is logically not dealt in at all, and loses his spot at the table (force player out imo)

and for the remaining players the seats are flipped at random, at this point you CANNOT choose to post blinds or not, because you were asked before.




sit out 1 table = sits out all, definately , if you sit out you dont intend to play, which fits stars vision of how they want things

Sit out 1 table=Sit out all tables sounds simply awful. What are we just doing away with the concept of table selection entirely? I mean I'm all for being more respectful to fish but there's got to be a line somewhere.

It's also completely unworkable as it will eventually hurt stars bottom line. Think of all those micro to small stakes grinders who basically grind out small winrates by being a bit better fundamentally than fish and game selecting hard. They can make a decent hourly comparable to a regular job and these type of players make up a huge % of micro to small stakes players while playing 12-20 tables. You turn these guys into losing or breakeven players and they will find something else that pays them a wage --> massive loss in traffic for stars.

Games r completely fine how they are. They should rather max tables at 12 bc then there would be 4 fish at each table nl400 and below and i wouldnt give a **** where im seated...

Hi, i dont know if i was taken as trolling when said "turn all tables zoom and lower rake" but i was not.

Im not sure but probably stars rakes more $/h at zoom games than does at normal tables with the same amount of players. If this were true, turning all games into zoom only and stars adjusting rake and vip rewards to somehow that both stars and regs could win the same amount of $/h would solve many problem at the same time.

If this idea is not viable could someone please tell me why?

Believe it or not, but a lot of RECs just don't wanna play some kind of geek-poker.

The sit out one table / sit out all tables...

How would that affect me when I'm finishing a session?

I always click - sit out next BB. But obviously all tables will take a different number of hands to get to the BB.

Just as a note - I don't sit out when fish stop playing, I also don't use seating scripts... though as they seem to cause so much bother maybe I should look into using them... hmm

Obv the "sit out next bb" would have to be replaced with "sit out next bb at all tables", which would then - and only then - allow you to finish your tables at different times to sit out/leave

Seating issues are up tomorrow, will be interesting to hear Stars view on them

Is there some thread regarding the results of the meeting? I tried search function, did not find anything. Thanks.

Since I'm not able to reveal Stars position on the issues discussed or possible changes resulting from the discussions (NDA), I thought I'd wait until PokerStarsSteve posts his report.

I know people don't wanna see a long delay and will do my best

how stupid can you be. of course Stars can ban/police scripts if they wanted to. the question is whether or not they should. and its a very difficult question and as usual, they've done the right thing so far. if you start banning poker software, then where do you draw the line? what is acceptable. recreational players are just as hurt by HUDs. imo ban HEM/PT as well but that will never happen

I'm arguing that they can ban and detect scribters, they are the one claiming they cant / that is to hard to enforce.

They already ban some poker software (read their ToC), so there is a line..

Impossible to just ban the use of scripts. Without scripts you wouldn't even be able to surf the interwebs pages.

As has already been pointed out, this is a terrible post because there already is a line as some software is banned.

Do you know when this will most likely occur?.

Soooooooon