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07-19-2010 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Fragui
What do you think was your long terme ROI on this package pls ?
hopefully positive

honestly it's so hard to say, i really have no idea
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07-19-2010 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JackOfSpeed
Are you planning to buy a similar amount of action in 2010 for the series? Obviously a long way away.
I assume you mean 2011, but if I had to guess I'd say I'll buy less. I'm happy with most of my purchases but I think I got to where I wanted to buy everything for like a week there before the series started and I definitely bought some that I probably shouldn't have bought.
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07-19-2010 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by George Lind III
I assume you mean 2011, but if I had to guess I'd say I'll buy less. I'm happy with most of my purchases but I think I got to where I wanted to buy everything for like a week there before the series started and I definitely bought some that I probably shouldn't have bought.
Yeah meant 2011 ofc.

Funny, I'm with you on the last minute purchases, I went crazy last week too (on a much smaller scale obv). Although that chunk I resold you at markdown worked out pretty well for you lol. Didn't realize he was actually pretty good

Thanks for revealing your balance sheet, I'm sure a lot of us were real curious about that. Wonder how cts did...
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07-19-2010 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JackOfSpeed
Yeah meant 2011 ofc.

Funny, I'm with you on the last minute purchases, I went crazy last week too (on a much smaller scale obv). Although that chunk I resold you at markdown worked out pretty well for you lol. Didn't realize he was actually pretty good

Thanks for revealing your balance sheet, I'm sure a lot of us were real curious about that. Wonder how cts did...
Yeah pretty funny that the guy I buy for 85 cents on the dollar makes it farther than anyone else in the main event.

cts and I agreed to tell each other our final results at the end of the series, but I haven't asked him yet (was gonna wait til I received all monies). Obviously I wouldn't make his #s public unless he told me I could though.
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07-19-2010 , 03:34 AM
I have a question for you that I want to ask, I understand that you may not want to answer this publicly so please PM me if you don't want the answer in public.

You are one of the few players I think have a good ROI at the level you play, I believe that most other winning players at this level have a pretty bad ROI. What set you apart from these guys? Do you have special method/strategy you go by? Do you spend time analysing the game when not playing? Are you one of those guys who happen to have talent for these type of games? Is it luck?

What do you think make your "game" at the tables so much better?
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07-19-2010 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BigFish2010
I have a question for you that I want to ask, I understand that you may not want to answer this publicly so please PM me if you don't want the answer in public.

You are one of the few players I think have a good ROI at the level you play, I believe that most other winning players at this level have a pretty bad ROI. What set you apart from these guys? Do you have special method/strategy you go by? Do you spend time analysing the game when not playing? Are you one of those guys who happen to have talent for these type of games? Is it luck?

What do you think make your "game" at the tables so much better?
My ROI isn't that great but I do play a lot of tables at a time too. There are def people who have a higher ROI than me in the hypers over a decent sample.

But the simple answer to your question is that I simply outwork them, both in analyzing the game and in putting in the hours.

And I've been a bit lucky/ran good in the big buyins during SCOOP/WCOOP.
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07-19-2010 , 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by George Lind III
My ROI isn't that great but I do play a lot of tables at a time too. There are def people who have a higher ROI than me in the hypers over a decent sample.

But the simple answer to your question is that I simply outwork them, both in analyzing the game and in putting in the hours.

And I've been a bit lucky/ran good in the big buyins during SCOOP/WCOOP.
How much time would you say you spend "off" the poker tables in comparison to time "on" the poker tables?
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07-19-2010 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BigFish2010
How much time would you say you spend "off" the poker tables in comparison to time "on" the poker tables?
It varies so much that I couldn't possibly give a good answer. When I'm learning something or excited about something new or just driven to learn for whatever reason, I can spend tons of time figuring it out. Other times I might just play a couple days a week and not really think about poker other than that.
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07-19-2010 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by George Lind III
Number 1 skill needed in hypers? Oh I don't know, maybe being able to quickly and accurately estimate your equity at any point.
In this post are you talking about your ICM equity or your hand's equity vs. opponent's range?
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07-19-2010 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LIFESUCKINGALIEN
Are you the jorj95 that scammed pokerstars for millions of dollars from leaks in their software with chiren80? And how did you do it exactly? And are you also a world of warcraft player like chiren80? If so what race are you and what level and how much gold do you have?

Also were you not worried about going to jail for stealing from pokerstars with chiren80?
What an idiot. Go play in your little toy world and leave us grownups alone.
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07-19-2010 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by George Lind III
Christopher Bolt made it the farthest, I think he finished around 40-45th. Had a decent shot with 115 left I had 4 horses with around average stacks, but oh well.
Was hoping that you wouldn't be able to answer that till November . I was glad to read that you ended up + . All the staking that you and CTS (and others) did had to help the numbers in the ME, which in turn is good for all poker.
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07-19-2010 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dpdawson
In this post are you talking about your ICM equity or your hand's equity vs. opponent's range?
The latter.
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07-22-2010 , 01:28 AM
In your opinion, is this slew of hands quite obvious collusion?


PokerStars Game #47098561903: Tournament #293979823, $86.28+$1.72 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (100/200) - 2010/07/22 1:58:37 AT [2010/07/22 0:58:37 ET]
Table '293979823 1' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: Gran_Goliat (55 in chips)
Seat 4: hartlis1 (770 in chips)
Seat 5: TheC@T (2175 in chips)
Gran_Goliat: posts the ante 40
hartlis1: posts the ante 40
TheC@T: posts the ante 40
hartlis1: posts small blind 100
TheC@T: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hartlis1 [5s Ad]
Gran_Goliat: calls 15 and is all-in
hartlis1: calls 100
TheC@T: raises 1935 to 2135 and is all-in
hartlis1: folds
Uncalled bet (1935) returned to TheC@T
*** FLOP *** [Qd 5d 2h]
TheC@T said, "d"
TheC@T said, "dd"
*** TURN *** [Qd 5d 2h] [8s]
TheC@T said, "dd"
TheC@T said, "d"
TheC@T said, "d"
*** RIVER *** [Qd 5d 2h 8s] [Kh]
TheC@T said, "d"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TheC@T: shows [7d 4h] (high card King)
TheC@T said, "sweet"
TheC@T collected 370 from side pot
Gran_Goliat: shows [8d Jd] (a pair of Eights)
TheC@T said, "hartlis"
Gran_Goliat collected 165 from main pot
TheC@T said, "u losing here"

Here, the shove is defendable, as he's picking up the side pot 100% of the time. Him rooting for diamonds and specifically saying that I'm going to lose, is bull**** collusion. It is clearly him trying to make me lose, or to make Gran_Goliat win. Both of which are bull****.

Very next hand ...

PokerStars Game #47098570779: Tournament #293979823, $86.28+$1.72 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (100/200) - 2010/07/22 1:59:09 AT [2010/07/22 0:59:09 ET]
Table '293979823 1' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: Gran_Goliat (165 in chips)
Seat 4: hartlis1 (530 in chips)
Seat 5: TheC@T (2305 in chips)
Gran_Goliat: posts the ante 40
hartlis1: posts the ante 40
TheC@T: posts the ante 40
TheC@T: posts small blind 100
Gran_Goliat: posts big blind 125 and is all-in
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hartlis1 [4d 6s]
hartlis1: folds
TheC@T: folds
Uncalled bet (25) returned to Gran_Goliat
Gran_Goliat collected 320 from pot
Gran_Goliat: doesn't show hand

That just isn't defendable. That's absolute crap and there's no question about it. You don't walk someone for 25 chips more when you have 2,305 chips. That's just absurd.

Very NEXT hand,

PokerStars Game #47098573348: Tournament #293979823, $86.28+$1.72 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (100/200) - 2010/07/22 1:59:18 AT [2010/07/22 0:59:18 ET]
Table '293979823 1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: Gran_Goliat (345 in chips)
Seat 4: hartlis1 (490 in chips)
Seat 5: TheC@T (2165 in chips)
Gran_Goliat: posts the ante 40
hartlis1: posts the ante 40
TheC@T: posts the ante 40
Gran_Goliat: posts small blind 100
hartlis1: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hartlis1 [4s 8c]
hartlis1 said, "why are u colluding against me?"
TheC@T: raises 1925 to 2125 and is all-in
Gran_Goliat has timed out
Gran_Goliat: folds
Gran_Goliat is sitting out
Gran_Goliat has returned
hartlis1: folds
Uncalled bet (1925) returned to TheC@T
TheC@T collected 620 from pot
TheC@T: doesn't show hand
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07-22-2010 , 01:49 AM
He just doesn't want you to win.
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07-22-2010 , 02:16 AM
I'd report it. Not that he will get in much trouble for it, but you should at least get a credit.
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07-22-2010 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
I'd report it. Not that he will get in much trouble for it, but you should at least get a credit.
You won't even get a credit for it, unless they are in fact colluding, which is possible I guess.

I had a situation in a DoN where a reg had some weird vendetta against me and was literally limping into the other short stacks' big blinds and then folding on the flop when checked to him. Stars ends up giving the guy a warning and they told me if he did it again he'd be banned, but suprisingly, no credit for me.
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07-22-2010 , 06:05 AM
Honestly Hartlin I get the impression that he's actively trying to make you lose because maybe you spite called him at some point or something, rather than that he's colluding. But obviously it can't hurt to report it.
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07-22-2010 , 07:54 AM
Hartlis,

Report him!!! Stars will definitely get on his case about it as that is against their TOS I believe. Here is a quote from the DON thread where the owner of PStars, Isai, has been talking directly to a 2p2 member about these types of problems:


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Originally Posted by tigertrap
We [Isai] also discussed the idea of having a pop up window that appears when you first register for a DoN that informs you that you are expected to play hard against everyone, and that any kind of soft playing is against the rules and can result in your account being closed and funds confiscated. You would have to click "OK" to confirm that you agree to these terms. I know this will not deter the most determined cheaters, but it does put everyone on notice, and nobody can say "Oh, I didn't know it was wrong to soft play people from my city". There should be a check box that says "Do not show me this notice again", or something similar, so that you will just have to do this once, not every time you play
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07-22-2010 , 10:38 AM
Varied opinions, good to see I guess.

I did report it last night. We'll see what happens.

Is there any rule against soft-playing one person to spite someone else?

I honestly don't remember ever spiting TheC@T, so I reallly have no idea why he'd be out to get me. I guess maybe he wants me to quit the games so they'll be softer for him, so he's giving up some EV here to gain future EV? Problem is, I'm not going to quit the games just because some idiot is spiting me by soft-playing others.

Thanks for the input everyone.
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07-22-2010 , 11:09 AM
Hartlin- Here is what PokerStars rules say:

Poker is an individual (not a team) game. Any action or chat intended to help another player is unethical and is prohibited. Unethical play, such as soft-play (playing less aggressively against a partner) and chip dumping (intentionally losing chips to a partner), may result in penalties, including seizure of funds from the offender's account and/or termination of the account.

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/tournaments/rules/

So the rules do not say anything against people trying to harm a particular player.

Megafossil- Stars policies on privacy are really awesome! They told you that they' warned that guy and theyd ban him if he does it again but instead they wouldn't tell what they do if you report some chat abuse, ask for someone's real location or if you report someone for multi accounting.

Last edited by nicegame; 07-22-2010 at 11:17 AM.
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07-22-2010 , 11:11 AM
Y'all start a thread about this and quit messing up jorj's well please.
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07-22-2010 , 12:18 PM
Hartlin, in the past i reported the almost same exact situation you posted..folding bvb for 5 chips..openly rooting against me in chat, etc. It was different players though. I was told the players weren't colluding, but that one of the players was taking it upon himself to eliminate me for no good reason and that he is allowed to play his stack as he wishes...
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07-22-2010 , 05:05 PM
Great thread,

What is the most excited you've been regarding poker? Was it your first big cash in a mtt? Getting sne status etc.?
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07-27-2010 , 06:30 PM
I just watched you play 10 hyper-turbos ($428) with the winner(s) getting an entry into the Super Tuesday. You won six and lost four. My question is, what do you do with the tickets to make money?

Please do not think I am questioning how you play. I am merely trying to emulate you as you are the best at acquiring VPP's and I want to do the same. It is just I do not understand how you actually make money to continue playing when the prizes are entry tickets.

Thank you for your time and answer.
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07-27-2010 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MargoChanning
I just watched you play 10 hyper-turbos ($428) with the winner(s) getting an entry into the Super Tuesday. You won six and lost four. My question is, what do you do with the tickets to make money?

Please do not think I am questioning how you play. I am merely trying to emulate you as you are the best at acquiring VPP's and I want to do the same. It is just I do not understand how you actually make money to continue playing when the prizes are entry tickets.

Thank you for your time and answer.
The prize is T$, not tickets. You can use the T$ to play more tournaments, buy into live events, or sell for real $.

OT
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