I'm sorry to hear about the experience you've had. We state on our website that to process a withdrawal to your Neteller account the email address linked to your Neteller account and your PayNoRake account has to match. This is for security reasons.

If you have any other issues, you're welcome to PM me your username and I'll look into it for you.

Regards,
Rachel

Received the payment righ now! nice

Why does Paynorake show up as malicious file when I download it?

It shouldn't. Though, certain anti virus software are known for false positives. Which one are you using?

Bitdefender

I can assure you that our software doesn't have any viruses or malware that'll harm you computer. I recommend that you download the software directly from our website if you haven't already done so.

I see that Bitdefender has on occasion marked sites and software as false positives.

If you have any issues, please let us know!

Are the paynorake.com players in the same player pool as the Tiger Gaming players or are they separated.

Hello,

is it correct that for winning a 10+1 express sng you receive 264 leaderboard points?

Could you please post how many points you get for winning, if my assumption is wrong?

hello 2plus2 members.

so here is my story , i have always been happy with playing at Paynorake/chico , i have never had any problems with payouts , they are very fast .

The site is full of soft players , and it has been very profitable to play there .

But now i seem to have a problem with a friend that i recommented to play there . (sorry for my poor english )

The case is that we keep our pokerstuff in a virtuel machine , a totally clean windows , because computer also is used for buisness , so this is a perfect solution , there will not be any pokerstuff outside in my main computer , so evrything is easy to delete again , there will be no cookies and no nothing in the real computer ..

I had my friend doing the same , she used the same Virtuel machine , just copy it , she has now won more than 5K$ , and wanted to try cashout , she is also only playing HU games , sometimes a few SNGs ..if she is bored , and there are no players at HU tables.

Now Chicosupport denied the withdrawel , because the say we play from the same device.. but we are sitting 100.miles apart , and have totally different IP.adresses , and there is no chance we are doing any collusion , as we both play only HU ... so they are investigating this now , i am worried that they now will keep my friends Money , thu i cant see we have done anything wrong ..

i know that the build windows have the same produkt key , but under systems i can prove we are running totally different hardware , and still we have different locations/IP.
so we for sure dont use the same device ....

so my quistion is , are we doing something wrong here ? what do people here think about this? anything will be helpfull ...

best Regards K

Yes, multiaccounting is wrong and your funds deserve to be confiscated. They know it's you and not your girlfriend playing so this probably won't end well for you.

???? i am not multiaccounting,,, how in gods name do you come up with this?

i am again telling you we are both playing , at 2 different locations , is that so hard to understand , read what i am writing.

I will waste 5.minutes to explain, so even Warder can understand this....

1. she is not a girlfriend as i am married..

2. we both have seperate approved accounts with ID ...we have both been playing poker for 20.years...

3. i have no control what so ever over my friends account ..

4.only thing we share is a similar windows installation ...

so if this is multiaccounting at the pokeresite , i really would like to play poker with you , when you come to this conclusion , i am pretty sure i could make a living out of playing just you ;-)

HU-lover

Contact Support, tell them that you are 100 miles apart, and ask them what they require from you that would prove to them your explanation.

Good luck.

thanks a lot Mike Haven , we can still play , our accounts are not closed , we are communicating with their support in a good way , explaining the situation , so lets see, )

they wrote they needed another 24.hours.

this smells as cheating from 100 miles apart.

stories as using virtual machine becouse of... this is pueril explanation. that virtual machine was creating for cheating. everybody knows that with virtual machine you can open more executables and play on the same table

so Pecal ??

tell me how i can make money at a HU table , playing myself??

i really would like to know that , and thanks for your warm welcome here btw. I guess i should have known better that expect any help here , as i am treated like a criminel , ..

did you even bother to read my whole post?????

Maybe you have multipli accounts here , you have the warder profile also ?

No, 'everybody' does not know that.

If I were responsible for security at a site I would at the very least check the IP address.

Also, can you explain how an HU player would profit from opening the same table as two different players?

Unless he's playing at 'Paynegrake.

ask him how he can cheat. probably he doesnt , all i am saying is based on his description. it is weird also that he is coming with args. and not the person involved in the transaction.

but anyway nothing is strange in this situation : two people involved they know eachother , both are using virtual machins ( by the way you can create more than 2 virtual machines ?) , new account created on 2+2 today and first post here as he knows this forum since was borned.

nothing is strange

I have had an account on this forum many years ago , i honestly dont remember my screen name ... , and really cant restore , as i dont have that email anymore..

I am discussing poker at my own language , in a lillte forum , but i dont really think that would help me in this situation ,,,,

but you are surely a person that see the worst in other , so of course , let us stone the new guy ... that is really poor , i try to belive in the best ...but i always end up beeing screwed , as it apperntly is much better to be an *******.

thanks.



so if i had a gun , i am also a bankrobber???

You can create as many as you like. How many you can reasonably run at once depends on the power of your hardware. Of course, how you easily direct human I/O to multiple instances on one physical machine is another matter.

But it doesn't get you anywhere.

You can get a perfectly good second-hand laptop to play poker so if simply using different machines was a way of hiding cheating, we'd all be stuffed.

Not saying this is what happened here, but the two ways I could see of cheating the site by playing yourself on HU tables would be bonus abuse or CC fraud.

ccfraud?? what is that ?

i dont get any bonus? what kind of bonus are you talking about?

Honestly , i am coming here in good faith , playing fair poker,,,,all is winning from tableprofit... and all i get from here is negativ feedback????

suddenly i remember why i left this forum many years ago!!!!

i am not accused of playing against myself , i am not accused of fraud... i am not accused of multiac****ing ... only from playing from the same device as a friend ... i really dont understand why you guys come up with all this other **** ????

CC fraud = Credit card fraud.

Not sure what you're getting so worked up about - as I said, I'm not suggesting any of those things happened here, just offering a counterpoint to those saying there is no way of cheating by having control of both accounts in a HU match.

i understand ...i am just a little upset here .. my friend got 5K$ ... i myself have luckyli only 1K$ there atm...

but i feel like we have to not only defend ourself from Chico/PNR , but now also have to defend ourself from other pokerplayers, where we thought we could get a little support , and a little help , so thats a little harsch,,,,

we both use Neteller only for poker...

sorry

Well, I was talking about cheating the game, not defrauding the site.

And, as I keep pointing out, if you tried to play as two actors on the same machine (apart from the potential difficulty in controlling it), it would be instantly apparent to the site because both instances would have the same IP address.

Presumable in this case you've been red flagged because both virtual machines will have the same Window's key.

Understood. But since the poster himself was jumping on that as proof that he couldn't have cheated, I thought it should be pointed out that he certainy could have.

Yes, it sounds that way, but I'm not sure how that changes things in terms of fraud. Or perhaps you weren't suggesting that; I'm not sure what your point is.

But I guess it's all moot now, as it appears that a red has deleted his account. Odd.