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Unofficial Petition to Remove The Beast/BBJ Tables From WPN(ACR, BCP, TRUE) Unofficial Petition to Remove The Beast/BBJ Tables From WPN(ACR, BCP, TRUE)

02-16-2013 , 01:37 AM
Reading this thread has prevented me from depositing on wpn. The rake is ridiculous.
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02-16-2013 , 01:41 AM
signed. i literally quit online poker because of this. as a New Yorker, ACR is my only good option but BBJ rake completely ruins it
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02-20-2013 , 11:53 AM
signed
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02-20-2013 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bullshark
Reading this thread has prevented me from depositing on wpn. The rake is ridiculous.
+1
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02-24-2013 , 08:19 PM
Signed
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02-24-2013 , 08:20 PM
signed!
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02-25-2013 , 02:37 AM
signed. micro players nightmare
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03-02-2013 , 04:30 PM
Signed
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03-28-2013 , 09:13 PM
Looked at this thread a bit and didn't see a direct answer so I thought posting here may help.
How bad is the rake for nanostakes? I'm talking about $.01/.02-$.05/.10
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03-28-2013 , 10:01 PM
Signed

MicroDonky1, .01/.02-.02/.05 aren't Beast/BBJ tables so rake is probably comparable to most sites at those limits.

.05/.10 non Beast/BBJ tables run also so same thing but you can play Beast/BBJ tables at that stake where the rake is terribad.
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03-29-2013 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Treadwell
Signed

MicroDonky1, .01/.02-.02/.05 aren't Beast/BBJ tables so rake is probably comparable to most sites at those limits.

.05/.10 non Beast/BBJ tables run also so same thing but you can play Beast/BBJ tables at that stake where the rake is terribad.
I think it's pretty bad though. I have played on other sites and it doesn't seem like it was as bad, but that's why I was trying to get a number to compare. Maybe there's a thread somewhere containing a good comparison for different stakes I just haven't found it thus far.

But I have sat at the BBJ tables thinking I am due lol, and I agree the rake was tremendously high and something should be done so....


SIGNED
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03-29-2013 , 11:44 PM
SIGNED

I'm another who hasn't played since BF. I have recently been trying to decide on a network. I had my mind made up. I was going with Winning... until this thread.

Last edited by spew4u; 03-30-2013 at 12:09 AM.
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03-30-2013 , 01:29 AM
I hope everyone who signed this is not playing those tables. That is the only truly effective protest.
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03-30-2013 , 05:17 AM
Haven't played cash since January solely because of the rake. It was fine on Merge before the move.
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03-30-2013 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
I hope everyone who signed this is not playing those tables. That is the only truly effective protest.
for their own benefit as well...i feel like an idiot after trying to make a run at the beast. read through this thread and stay away!
didn't make even half of what i normally have through that many hands on other sites, and that's after beast payout (1k) and rakeback....plus i was running hot, like super hot for the first 60k hands.

Last edited by tempeh!; 03-30-2013 at 02:48 PM.
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03-30-2013 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
I hope everyone who signed this is not playing those tables. That is the only truly effective protest.
Gonna be tough for this to happen when Revolution is trying to lose all their customers.
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03-30-2013 , 09:46 PM
Signed.

Down with the beast.
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03-30-2013 , 09:50 PM
I haven't deposited because of the beast rake.

Signed.
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04-14-2013 , 11:49 PM
signed.
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04-15-2013 , 12:08 AM
signed
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04-15-2013 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Treadwell
.05/.10 non Beast/BBJ tables run also so same thing but you can play Beast/BBJ tables at that stake where the rake is terribad.
To clarify, I played a BBJ 10NL table because it was basically all that was running, and when the SB limped and I checked my BB, we saw a flop and fought over a $.09 pot. Ridiculous.
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04-15-2013 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by otatop
To clarify, I played a BBJ 10NL table because it was basically all that was running, and when the SB limped and I checked my BB, we saw a flop and fought over a $.09 pot. Ridiculous.
When I'm in the BB and that happens I raise every time just because I can. I'm not sure if that is more -EV than checking.
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04-29-2013 , 09:56 AM
Is micro cash even profitable on bbj tables talking 10nl and under?

Just curious
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04-29-2013 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by WVUskinsfan
Is micro cash even profitable on bbj tables talking 10nl and under?

Just curious
The short answer is, it's possible to be profitable, but not enough to be worth bothering. I had a ~7BB/100 win rate at the 10NL tables that aren't BBJ, and ~2 at the BBJ tables before I realized how ****ty the rake was.
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