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Old 10-31-2016, 12:57 PM   #1826
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Re: ** Unofficial Lock Poker [Non-US-Players] Cashout tracking and discussion thread**

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Hello,

I'm about to file a civil lawsuit against Lock Poker, wincake (which is owned by Lock Poker) and towergaming (which one day randomly decided to transfer my account and funds here).

It's been nearly 30 months without seeing a cent from my only cash out request. They owe me couple thousand and clearly have no interest to resolve this issue.

I'm Canadian citizen and I would ask someone from this community if they can give me some advice, tips before I file this lawsuit. I also intend to file a criminal lawsuit when the civil one settles.
Don't waste your time. Jennifer has used the last 13,000 for a magnum of wine and is currently thinking of a new project to run out of her one room apartment. She is venturing into this endevour with don lapre
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Old 10-31-2016, 09:34 PM   #1827
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Hello,

I'm about to file a civil lawsuit against Lock Poker, wincake (which is owned by Lock Poker) and towergaming (which one day randomly decided to transfer my account and funds here).

It's been nearly 30 months without seeing a cent from my only cash out request. They owe me couple thousand and clearly have no interest to resolve this issue.

I'm Canadian citizen and I would ask someone from this community if they can give me some advice, tips before I file this lawsuit. I also intend to file a criminal lawsuit when the civil one settles.
  1. Lock is broke. You will get nothing for wasting your time chasing a judgment-proof company.
  2. Wincake is not owned by Lock and never was.
  3. Towergaming is just as broke as the other two.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:01 AM   #1828
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Re: ** Unofficial Lock Poker [Non-US-Players] Cashout tracking and discussion thread**

WTF anyone received any lumpy cashouts?
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Old 11-03-2016, 10:02 AM   #1829
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Rest in Peace Lock
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Old 11-03-2016, 06:18 PM   #1830
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ya RIP lock poker I played on there for a while a couple years ago never received any money GG
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:57 PM   #1831
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Re: ** Unofficial Lock Poker [Non-US-Players] Cashout tracking and discussion thread**

Video of my encounter with Eric "Rizen" Lynch last night. ******* coward.



If embedded video isn't working try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNLv0CquRHg

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Old 11-04-2016, 04:16 PM   #1832
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Angry Video Encounter with LOCK POKER room manager ERIC "RIZEN" LYNCH - COWARD



Video of me searching for answers from Lock Poker Room Manager, Eric "Rizen" Lynch, who has been MIA for years. Lock Poker stole MILLIONS from poker players and stopped paying in 2013. Eric Lynch has not come forward ever since, he quit his online presence, hasn't played WSOP events ever since.

I was lucky, I realized something was wrong when cash outs got to two months and stopped playing. I still had 14k on there, when it was selling for 0.7 and unfortunately I did not sell.

Maybe the worst part of this all is for another year and a half after Lock Poker CONTINUED to take deposits while NEVER paying out, Lynch remained silent. Allowing even more people to be duped.
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Old 11-04-2016, 09:18 PM   #1833
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What casino was that at?
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:12 PM   #1834
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Don't know much about the whole Lock poker thing, I guess they stiffed players and went under. All I know is what I saw in this video and Eric Lynch comes of looking really good from this video. The person asking the questions comes off not looking good.

Maybe they are emotional about having money stolen but after the first two minutes it was obvious Eric was being pretty accomodating and patient but that no additional information was going to be had be hounding him. Yet the next four minutes the questioner was just repeating the same stuff and being annoying to the table. Sue enough , not further info was gained from the annoying hounding.

It made me think of press conferences where reporters continually ask a coach the same question in different wording multiple times after he says he won't be commenting, which eventually just leads to the coach cutting of the press conference. Pointless.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:14 PM   #1835
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Video of me searching for answers from Lock Poker Room Manager, Eric "Rizen" Lynch, who has been MIA for years. Lock Poker stole MILLIONS from poker players and stopped paying in 2013. Eric Lynch has not come forward ever since, he quit his online presence, hasn't played WSOP events ever since.

I was lucky, I realized something was wrong when cash outs got to two months and stopped playing. I still had 14k on there, when it was selling for 0.7 and unfortunately I did not sell.

Maybe the worst part of this all is for another year and a half after Lock Poker CONTINUED to take deposits while NEVER paying out, Lynch remained silent. Allowing even more people to be duped.

Much appreciation to whoever shot this video.You handled it much better than I would have.

Lock owes me 5k that I will never see and it is pathetic to see the so- called poker room manager not accept any accountability in the slightest way.

If only he could fathom that one of the only reasons I deposited on the site was because I saw his picture and bio when I logged on to their website.It made me feel secure that the poker room manager was a well known USA player that WAS ( at one time) very visible on the forums. I guess he doesnt understand what happens when you let a company pay you to use your name and image. I guess he had no part in any of it , right.

He obviously didn't steal the money directly , but he has to accept some responsibility for being a part of a shady business and not severing ties when it was obvious what was going on.


A message to Eric Lynch -

I take accountability in knowing that when I deposit and play on an offshore poker room anything is possible and my funds may not be secure ( as was the case with the website you represented and worked for).Please realize what you are accountable for when you represent a company and the impact it could have. If lock didn't have the endorsement of you or any other well known usa players , I would never have played there and never lost 5k to an unscrupulous scheme. Thanks!
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:31 PM   #1836
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Pretty douchebaggy of whoever was shooting this video, imho. You want to have a conversation with him fine, but why are you trying to secretly film him like you're going to expose something. You knew the risk putting your money on a sh*tty offshore site post-black friday, deal with the consequences. Guys like Rizen are just given a title, like sponsored pros. You don't think he feels bad about his name being associated with Lock? Do you honestly think he had any control over your money? He never had any operational control of funds or anything like that. Honestly what a sad pussy-rant by the op, man up and accept your losses, you took the risk.
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:15 PM   #1837
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Don't know much about the whole Lock poker thing, I guess they stiffed players and went under. All I know is what I saw in this video and Eric Lynch comes of looking really good from this video. The person asking the questions comes off not looking good.

Maybe they are emotional about having money stolen but after the first two minutes it was obvious Eric was being pretty accomodating and patient but that no additional information was going to be had be hounding him. Yet the next four minutes the questioner was just repeating the same stuff and being annoying to the table. Sue enough , not further info was gained from the annoying hounding.

It made me think of press conferences where reporters continually ask a coach the same question in different wording multiple times after he says he won't be commenting, which eventually just leads to the coach cutting of the press conference. Pointless.
That was kind of the goal. To hound him and be a douche. Thought that was obvious.

I want him to feel miserable everytime he sets foot in a poker room

Sorry guys, I should have made the Lock Poker room manager feel more welcome

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Pretty douchebaggy of whoever was shooting this video, imho. You want to have a conversation with him fine, but why are you trying to secretly film him like you're going to expose something. You knew the risk putting your money on a sh*tty offshore site post-black friday, deal with the consequences. Guys like Rizen are just given a title, like sponsored pros. You don't think he feels bad about his name being associated with Lock? Do you honestly think he had any control over your money? He never had any operational control of funds or anything like that. Honestly what a sad pussy-rant by the op, man up and accept your losses, you took the risk.
Sooo you think its cool that for 1.5 years after lock stopped paying out, yet they gladly accepted payments from new players who never would see that money again. And he didnt say anything for those 1.5 years. Didnt denounce lock. Didnt apologize. Didnt tell ppl to beware. What did he do instead? He hid for yrs. Stopped playing live tourneys and had no response to the poker world.

Yeah, I should have been nicer to him.

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Old 11-04-2016, 11:59 PM   #1838
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Unreal. People defending this Lock Poker clown Rizen. He deserves to be called out like this everytime hes seen. I wouldnt have been this nice
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:04 AM   #1839
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Yeah, I should have been nicer to him.
No, you're right, you should continue to act like a whiney douche trying to secretly record people who had nothing to do with your lost money or any ability to get it back. Also, good to see you're such a poker baller that a few thousand lost on a shady offshore internet poker site will set you on life tilt.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:11 AM   #1840
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With the caveat that I haven't had any poker site steal my money, so I don't know what that's like, I'd say that as is so often the case, the most reasonable position is somewhere in the middle of the extremes I'm seeing posted here.

I'm not a fan of some of the behavior in the video - since he wasn't, AFAIK, involved in the ownership or management of the company, I'm not sure what the point is of continuing on with it for so long. Not only is it not getting you anywhere, I can't imagine how awkward it must've been for the rest of the table. And lying about recording it seems a little silly. But that said, I don't blame you for being pissed and at least asking for some answers, even if you knew what they were going to be. He owed you that much. And how many times have we heard posters complain about how nobody ever confronts those involved in scandals? At least you did something, and while it might have been further than some of us would have been comfortable with, it doesn't appear that you made a huge scene over it.

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Also, good to see you're such a poker baller that a few thousand lost on a shady offshore internet poker site will set you on life tilt.
LOL @ that being "life tilt", and to some people, $14 K is a lot of money.
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:12 AM   #1841
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If only he could fathom that one of the only reasons I deposited on the site was because I saw his picture and bio when I logged on to their website.It made me feel secure that the poker room manager was a well known USA player that WAS ( at one time) very visible on the forums. I guess he doesnt understand what happens when you let a company pay you to use your name and image. I guess he had no part in any of it , right.

He obviously didn't steal the money directly , but he has to accept some responsibility for being a part of a shady business and not severing ties when it was obvious what was going on.
The consequences are that his reputation takes a hit. He was an online poker player. He was offered money to play some token role and lend his quasi celebrity status to the site for probably very little money.

What do you know about his role as poker room manager, and what would make you think he had any knowledge of what the owners were doing before they jetted with the money?

As presented the person asking the questions looks like the *******.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:07 AM   #1842
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Video of my encounter with Eric "Rizen" Lynch last night. ******* coward.



If embedded video isn't working try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNLv0CquRHg
Two stacks of red and a few whites. What's he at, a 1/3 game???
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:38 AM   #1843
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Two stacks of red and a few whites. What's he at, a 1/3 game???
I was wondering the same thing. Also the poster of the video is an online pro since 2011.....2011.

Not sure what the poster of the video thought he would gain by filming/posting this. It really makes him look like a jackass.
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Old 11-05-2016, 06:56 AM   #1844
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You may be mistaking the function of Rizen (or LockRizen) for that of imjustshane.

Here are a couple of Rizen's early posts:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19.../#post24914546

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19.../#post25765774

and a couple of Lock threads worth scan-reading for those who don't know the general history:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...kpoker-982657/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...ently-1359432/
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Old 11-05-2016, 09:07 AM   #1845
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owed 3k from lock probably never getting it but that video was pretty cringeworthy
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:18 PM   #1846
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You may be mistaking the function of Rizen (or LockRizen) for that of imjustshane.

Here are a couple of Rizen's early posts:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19.../#post24914546

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19.../#post25765774

and a couple of Lock threads worth scan-reading for those who don't know the general history:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...kpoker-982657/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...ently-1359432/
Wow..so appears he was even more involved in daily operations than I thought.
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:33 PM   #1847
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Wow..so appears he was even more involved in daily operations than I thought.
Please tell us more about your ideas of what constitutes "daily operations"...
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:47 PM   #1848
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That was kind of the goal. To hound him and be a douche. Thought that was obvious.
I guess you hounded him, and indeed you were a random douche, so you met both your objectives, Congrats I guess.

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I want him to feel miserable everytime he sets foot in a poker room
You made no progress toward this, however you did show how the rest of the world regards the situation - they do not care at all, and in the end you ended up being the one scolded by everyone and turned off your camera in shame.

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Sorry guys, I should have made the Lock Poker room manager feel more welcome
You had an opportunity to potentially get some interesting information (for 2+2), however you lacked the tact, intelligence, and general awareness to make that happen. You wasted your chance and accomplished essentially nothing.

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Sooo you think its cool that for 1.5 years after lock stopped paying out, yet they gladly accepted payments from new players who never would see that money again. And he didnt say anything for those 1.5 years. Didnt denounce lock. Didnt apologize. Didnt tell ppl to beware. What did he do instead? He hid for yrs. Stopped playing live tourneys and had no response to the poker world.
Nobody condones what Lock did. Many of us (myself included) tried very, very hard to get people like you to leave that room for years with minimal success.

Even though Lock is a dead horse issue, I and others would have found it interesting to see what this guy could say about the situation if he was asked in a proper way to obtain information. As played, you spewed and produced a video pile that made you the bad guy and the Lock pro the good guy. Well done...

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Yeah, I should have been nicer to him.
Information could have been had without being overly nice. You just lack the skills to do that, so you produced nothing of value.


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Old 11-06-2016, 05:49 AM   #1849
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As someone who had more than 14k on there, I appreciate the gesture or attempt. However I feel it was the wrong approach. Also I accept that I lost money on a shady site, what tilts me harder is him not chiming up and ****ing recreational players and the like.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:04 PM   #1850
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That was kind of the goal. To hound him and be a douche. Thought that was obvious.

I want him to feel miserable everytime he sets foot in a poker room

Sorry guys, I should have made the Lock Poker room manager feel more welcome



Sooo you think its cool that for 1.5 years after lock stopped paying out, yet they gladly accepted payments from new players who never would see that money again. And he didnt say anything for those 1.5 years. Didnt denounce lock. Didnt apologize. Didnt tell ppl to beware. What did he do instead? He hid for yrs. Stopped playing live tourneys and had no response to the poker world.

Yeah, I should have been nicer to him.
"Professional online player since 2011" line made me rofl.
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