Likely both killed themselves when they worked out wtf the rest of the table were screaming about. Pretty hilarious really.

Here is the genius that checked down his royal

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...-flush-441182/

IMO these are the possibilities of what happened (i think most have been mentioned before):

Most likely- both thought the other had nothing and really wanted to show the best hand they've ever had to the table so everyone would know how awesome they are, thus not betting forcing oppenent to fold.

Possible- realized they had BBJ hand and didnt want to risk other folding. and if you're thinking to yourself "no one is stupid enough not to realize if the other person has a hand the qualifies for the BBJ they are NEVER folding" then you have obviously never played on UB.

Third level thinking at .25/.50- "if i bet of course he never folds a BBJ hand on purpose, but % of time he misclicks folds or is disconnected and what that would cost us in BBJ equity is more than the extra money i make by betting so therefore checking behind royal flush is +EV."

They felt the jackpot wasn't worth it at a paltry 350k. They'll hit it later on when theres real money at stake.

haha

I loled

lol, nh dex.

As one of the seven players screwed by these two idiots, I want to mention some other thoughts. I am new to UB, I made my first deposit a few days ago. I couldn't find any non-Jackpot tables at which to play. I decided to play small stakes, .25 -.50, and build up my bankroll. The rake at these Jackpot tables is tremendously high 5% + up to 10% for the jackpot. At any higher limit tables the rake would have easily qualified for the jackpot.

Taking a 10% juice for the house when the jackpot hits is not justified at all.
The house is already taking their regular share of 5% anyway. UB could have easily awarded the 1k to the seven players not involved in the hand; the two players checking down the hand don't deserve anything, but the seven other players in the hand got beaten with the worst bad beat ever.

My friend told me the guy who lost the hand is playing one table .05/.10NL

Priceless

obv you have to balance your ranges so that your opps know that when you check behind the river it doesn't neccessarily mean that you don't have the nuts.

I like how you clarify "at 0.25/0.5" as if this would be a sophisticated fold that some mid to high stakes players make.

ups never mind. I just read what you said later on the next page.

lol at the durr pic, well played sir

So good, A+.

You're playing at UB; what do you expect?

i dont know why everyone keeps saying "they both wanted it to go to showdown". that makes no sense, as it assumes that the other player actually has 8888 or better, which they almost never do. if the other player DOES have 8888 or better, he is never folding anyway, even if he suspects a str flush from his apponent. of course, there is no way that a player has quads on this board, so the ONLY way that the bbj gets paid is with these two specific hands. there is NO WORLD IN ANY UNIVERSE that the dude holding the royal thinks "that guy has a str flush, but he might lay it down, so i better check". the most likely explanation for all of this is that the guy with the royal mis-read his hand, and thot he had Ahi.

this is such a nh that I would check it behind on the river so I could show it down

No one is seriously saying that anyone will fold either hand here if facing a bet, however in the past there have been sites that have had royal flush or biggest hand of the day jackpots (usually much smaller - $100ish or so) that required the hand go to showdown.

That probably explains why the royal guy checked, it would have been the correct thing to do in some of the old style royal flush jackpots.

Similarly, if the players knew about the $5 pot and that had been achieved then a check by the royal is again not a bad choice even if he knew the opponent had the straight flush, since a bet could get uncalled via disconnect or time out.

Stop taking people's jokes about folding straight flushes so literally.


One other small thing I would add is that innately this is a flawed jackpot design if this scenario can even happen as it did, as it makes UB look pretty bad that this could happen.

All that being said, that durr picture was one of the better photo shop creations I have seen. Simple , yet it completely captures the essence of the situation.

you thought they were bluffing.

where is "the genius?" he ain't the OP...
nice, range-merging FTW!

there's actually a story in the B&M Forum about some guy who was happy to lose a pretty big pot (several hundred dollars) to win some other jackpot thing worth less than the amount he put in the pot.

but he was still a winner in his book, I guess.

i dont think even half of the people who said "he wanted to go to sd" were joking, but if they were, my bad. the point here is this: what should the guy w royal be thinking is more likely...that other dude has a str fl or that other dude has a fl/str? in the unlikely event that he has a str fl, the dude is going nowhere, and will call any bet. this is the only situation in which the bbj could be won. in the more possible event that the other player does NOT have the str flush, yet has a good hand like str or flush, its obv the best play to attempt to extract some value on the river by betting. there is no royal flush bonus or anything like that on cereus. there is no possible way that the dude saw his hand and actually decided not to bet for some reason, unless he is a complete moron. more likely something else happened like multi-tabling, mis-read hand, or some other.

Obv reason is both players are shills. UB does not want to pay badbeat jackpot so they rig it so insiders win. Unfortunately the insiders don't think about the minimum requirements and when the hand goes down the software doesn't kick in and they don;t get payouts. Rather than draw even more attention to themselves they just sit quietly dumbfounded. Neither knows what to do, and so they shut up and leave.

I don't think this is correct.

Dudes not a shill one tabling 5c/10c NL with $1.68. lol
There might really be nobody on all of UB that needed this money more but be less deserving of it.