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lolz. im sure UB would hate to have a shill win their jackpot. Unless I'm mistaken on what a shill is.

Assuming they are both bots/shills/working for ub if they win the BBJ UB has to pay everybody at the table, easy to see why they just checked it down. Might sound far-fetched but we're talking about UB here so this wouldn't surprise me.

If this is true and i'm not missing something, wouldn't they (UB) desperately want two shills to win the BBJ?

I can believe a lot about UB, but somehow I don't think UB would have shills working at the 25c/50c game.

omg this is awful!

Someone has to win the jackpot eventually, so they wouldn't be saving money, just delaying paying it out, and missing out on an oppurtunity to have shills win the majority of it here.

I liked the theory that Royal assumed there was the no way the other guy was calling a bet on the end and wanted to showdown his royal without ever thinking about the fact that the other guy might have a BBJ hand since the board wasn't paired.

Maybe I'm being entire-thread-leveled and soul-owned here, but is there a chance, ever ever, of someone laying down a straight flush on a threeflush board at 0.25/0.5?

You guys are all way too paranoid about that over-used term "levelling"; otherwise you could've all put me out of my misery a long time ago like this post did.

I could say I was levelling, but I wasn't. I'm an idiot. Totally overlooked the fact that there is no jackpot if there isn't two straight flushes.

Can't think of any good reason to be checking that one down now. Of course, I can't think of a reason people will call down with 4-2 os on a KJQQ3 board either.

What amazes me is that in the end the straight flush didn't get ship the pot... Although, given this is ultimate bet, it is hard to truly surprised by anything that happens there anymore... it will be interesting to see if the next thread about them in a couple weeks can top this one...

Dude, try again.. Royal Flush > Straight Flush

this hand is a case of collusion gone really awry. why on earth would anyone check the royal flush on turn and river being the last to act?! someone in the BBV thread suggested that he could have been multitabling and just checked it down unknowingly, but i don't buy that. he would have at least noticed that he's got a nut flush or nut straight, even if he had 24 tables on. and he had two streets to realize that.

what i think happened is one of the following:
1. players are colluding but not sharing info often. so the guy with SF wanted to give his friend a break and RF was thinking exactly the same.

2. they're colluding and sharing info. so they thought they'd check it down and win the jackpot not realizing the .25 rake minimum to win.

in both cases it's obv that they're ******ed thinking that they can get away with collusion so easy.. but then again it's UB!

Because they both wanted to go to showdown, and weren't aware of a minimum rake of $0.25.

Most likely a case of two horrible fish having a battle over who can slowplay the best and get the least value for the nuts. They both won.

[X] pot control

FYP.

on the river why wouldn't they both go to SD anyways? i understand checking flop and turn, but on river, regardless of who's last to act, somebody should be getting c/r because there's no way a straight flush is folding there?

While I am entertained by some of the wilder theories, it seems the simplest is most likely the correct one.


Player 1 with the straight flush was doing what a lot of players do - fancy play. This behavior is fairly routine with monster hands ie: they win prettier but smaller pots generally. I doubt this player was thinking about the bad beat jackpot.

Player 2 - Some people like to show off a Royal when they have one, so this may have been in effect. He may have thought there was some sort of Royal Flush jackpot but the hand had to go to showdown (that is how Crypto was years ago and indeed the check would have been a correct play in that spot to ensure the jackpot)

He may have known about the bad beat jackpot but had no idea that the pot had to be $5 or more.


This had nothing to do with shills or whether UB was corrupt or whatever other conspiracy is popular these days. Basically, a once in a lifetime hand was muddled with 2 guys that were fancy playing and/or unaware of their situation until it was too late. They certainly paid for it.


What was the jackpot breakdown had either value bet a quarter that hand?

OP lost out on what about 12,000 because of them?

I dont have a UB account for obv reasons,but has anyone tried to find and ask either of these players about it?

N/M other thread in BBV says players at table only get $1K each.

any other theory but this one is pretty absurd IMO

I'm not sure why, but for some reason I consider it important that someone communicate to these two just how stupid they are, in case they didn't know already. Especially if they were in fact fancy playing.