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04-15-2011 , 02:12 PM
I am logged into stars just now from Florida, for what its worth...
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04-15-2011 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kikadell
these are just the websites, ur money is safe
yeah, the big govt plan was to sieze the websites to show us how 1ee7 they are and do nothing else.
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04-15-2011 , 02:15 PM
Stars client working fine for me as well... Tried FT and it went to updater and I didn't continue as I no longer play there.
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04-15-2011 , 02:17 PM
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Federal authorities unsealed an indictment Friday against the founders of the three largest internet poker companies operating in the U.S. The indictment charges eleven defendants, including the founders of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, and Absolute Poker, with bank fraud, money laundering, and illegal gambling offenses, according to Federal authorities in New York. Restraining orders were issued against more than 75 bank accounts used by the poker companies and their payment processors, while five Internet domain names used by the companies to host poker games were seized, federal authorities added in a statement.
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04-15-2011 , 02:18 PM
where the **** are PSSteve and FPTDoug
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04-15-2011 , 02:18 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...852516194.html

NEW YORK—Eleven people, including the founders of three of the largest online poker companies doing business in the U.S., have been charged in the latest crack down on Internet gambling by U.S. authorities.

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan allege the companies tried to sidestep U.S. laws prohibiting banks and credit-card issuers from processing gambling payments by disguising billions of dollars from U.S. gamblers as payments to nonexistent online merchants for golf balls, jewelry and other merchandise.

After U.S banks and financial institutions began detecting the scheme in late 2009, prosecutors allege, a new strategy was developed in which two online poker websites allegedly persuaded a few small, local banks facing financial difficulties to process their payments in return for multimillion-dollar investments in those banks.

Those charged Friday include the founders of online poker websites PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker. The charges include bank fraud, money laundering and online-gambling offenses.

Federal authorities also have filed restraining orders against 76 bank accounts in 14 countries allegedly associated with the poker companies and others as a part of a separate civil forfeiture action. They are seeking at least $3 billion in civil money-laundering penalties and forfeiture.

Prosecutors also have moved to seize five Internet domain names allegedly used by the poker companies.
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04-15-2011 , 02:19 PM
US DOJ Press Release (courtesy of Kevmath)

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf
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04-15-2011 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyNL
where the **** are PSSteve and FPTDoug
This thread is the very last thing on their minds. How is this not obvious?
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04-15-2011 , 02:19 PM
Stars, Tilt, cake, redkings, Party and Doyles come up fine for me but UB and AP are FBI'd
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04-15-2011 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RazzSpazz
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...852516194.html

NEW YORK—Eleven people, including the founders of three of the largest online poker companies doing business in the U.S., have been charged in the latest crack down on Internet gambling by U.S. authorities.

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan allege the companies tried to sidestep U.S. laws prohibiting banks and credit-card issuers from processing gambling payments by disguising billions of dollars from U.S. gamblers as payments to nonexistent online merchants for golf balls, jewelry and other merchandise.

After U.S banks and financial institutions began detecting the scheme in late 2009, prosecutors allege, a new strategy was developed in which two online poker websites allegedly persuaded a few small, local banks facing financial difficulties to process their payments in return for multimillion-dollar investments in those banks.

Those charged Friday include the founders of online poker websites PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker. The charges include bank fraud, money laundering and online-gambling offenses.

Federal authorities also have filed restraining orders against 76 bank accounts in 14 countries allegedly associated with the poker companies and others as a part of a separate civil forfeiture action. They are seeking at least $3 billion in civil money-laundering penalties and forfeiture.

Prosecutors also have moved to seize five Internet domain names allegedly used by the poker companies.
Ok, this is BAD... I'm STILL getting the .coms and the clients are working for me but just a matter of time for the .coms I suppose.
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04-15-2011 , 02:25 PM
withdrew on ft. only got the 'processing' email... fml
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04-15-2011 , 02:29 PM
It's just a shakedown from the US government. I'm ashamed of my country today.
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04-15-2011 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AEPpoker
yeah, the big govt plan was to sieze the websites to show us how 1ee7 they are and do nothing else.
the government has seized US bank acnts belonging to founders of the sites and payment processors, and have seized the .com websites which are registered in the united states.

the servers used to host the games and the bank acnts used to store the players money are in europe, gibraltar and costa rica. the united states have no jurisdiction here, thus ur money is safe.

cashing out, now thats another thing
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04-15-2011 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BoterSmoter
PSSteve, FPTDoug, please run and hide!.

FYP.
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04-15-2011 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kikadell
the government has seized US bank acnts belonging to founders of the sites and payment processors, and have seized the .com websites which are registered in the united states.

the servers used to host the games and the bank acnts used to store the players money are in europe, gibraltar and costa rica. the united states have no jurisdiction here, thus ur money is safe.

cashing out, now thats another thing
tough to figure out how the US will enforce this. Everybody will just change their domain names as necessary and inform the players by emial.

This is underground poker being driven further underground...
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04-15-2011 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by magent
This thread is the very last thing on their minds. How is this not obvious?
we kinda deserve a explanation
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04-15-2011 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kikadell
the government has seized US bank acnts belonging to founders of the sites and payment processors, and have seized the .com websites which are registered in the united states.

the servers used to host the games and the bank acnts used to store the players money are in europe, gibraltar and costa rica. the united states have no jurisdiction here, thus ur money is safe.

cashing out, now thats another thing
Yeah, that's what I'd call safe... How can you actually type this out without a light bulb going off?
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04-15-2011 , 02:36 PM
Haven't posted here in a long time. This pisses me off. Wake up Americans. If these companies were banks this would not be happening.

Sadly, what will anyone do about it besides complain on an internet board?
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04-15-2011 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyNL
we kinda deserve a explanation
Seriously, these guys in all likelyhood have as much clue as to what as going on as you do. About 0% chance they post in this thread. Your best bet for useful information will come in the legislation form.
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04-15-2011 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyNL
we kinda deserve a explanation
You're getting it from the feds. Read the release.

They (Steve, Doug, etc.) have a ****ton more questions than we do.
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04-15-2011 , 02:41 PM
Official release from the DOJ:

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf
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04-15-2011 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by searl12
This makes me happier than anything in this world.
I'm glad you are happy that, it now seems possible, on line poker is, for the time being at least, ended for US players.

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Originally Posted by dheff84
can't tell if searl12 is a troll or just a moron. leaning toward the latter.
Yeah, a moron and a rigtard who has escaped from the containment thread.
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04-15-2011 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kikadell
the government has seized US bank acnts belonging to founders of the sites and payment processors, and have seized the .com websites which are registered in the united states.

the servers used to host the games and the bank acnts used to store the players money are in europe, gibraltar and costa rica. the united states have no jurisdiction here, thus ur money is safe.

cashing out, now thats another thing
not true. The banks etc will honor a federal warrant form another country.
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04-15-2011 , 03:11 PM
Not good news. Not sure if I should be trying to take money off?

http://www.bestpokerrooms.com/news/f...s-poker-sites/
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