Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
[Tigergaming] Need Help understanding the game [Tigergaming] Need Help understanding the game

12-02-2021 , 07:34 AM
i checked my bitcoin depot and i cashed in 135k USD in BTC since 11 of November in 4,5k steps.

i have now 26k USD in my account. yesterday, it was 45k and my pokertracker shows a break even session. so i got ripped of 20k yesterday. the days before, i didnt recognize and my laptop is new without pokertracker, which i installed now.
I analysed my hands and i am 50k up after winning huge in the last 2 days. i didnt recognized it before (its not that long time) without this software, but your software seems to take away 2-7k every day from my account. there is for sure nothing wrong with my new laptop like trojan horses! so it must be someone in your company stealing me my money. and I am totally under my expected value (like 54k USD!). thats kind of a joke, that i am loosing almost every All In, i am in with. i am pretty sure, your software is totally rigged for me (and must not be for others!). please look into all of my hands and look for strange behaviour like folding way to good hands of my opponents.
i am a maths guy and this statistics sucks big time. i am also >10years online professional poker player and never saw such a strange statistic. also, i do get my money in the middle of the table almost always bad in setups like my kings against his aces. thats soooooooo odd!
seems like gypsy poker with players from your company or their friends.

in total, i am up 51k USD in my database (+rakeback, i said its 1k, must be even more, because of first deposit). so 135+52-26= 161k USD must be added back to my balance. i have all played hands from the saved hand histories in my database, so no data is missing there.



please investigate it exactly. i am one of the best holdem players in the world for sure. for me, running that strange and loosing so much money by your software seems totally odd, even if i am up in poker for >50kUSD, which is normal for me. i am pretty sure, i didnt lost 160k in poker in an maximal 5/10 game. I did play HU quite a lot and crushed one guy for 34k yesterday in a 6 tables HU 5/10 and don't know, how I lost that much money. I did cash in during sessions, so I didnt had a tracking in the night. I didn't thought, that I cashed in that big till I got very suspicious yesterday. there is a big cash flow going on in my BTC and poker life....
please check your algorithm as well.







thats my email to tigergaming. big scam!
how can i get contact to that companies holding the licenses and controlling that case? I dont trust tigergaming at all... where do I find help???


Thanks,
Konstantin
12-02-2021 , 08:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganesh2022
i checked my bitcoin depot and i cashed in 135k USD in BTC since 11 of November in 4,5k steps.



i have now 26k USD in my account. yesterday, it was 45k and my pokertracker shows a break even session. so i got ripped of 20k yesterday. the days before, i didnt recognize and my laptop is new without pokertracker, which i installed now.

I analysed my hands and i am 50k up after winning huge in the last 2 days. i didnt recognized it before (its not that long time) without this software, but your software seems to take away 2-7k every day from my account. there is for sure nothing wrong with my new laptop like trojan horses! so it must be someone in your company stealing me my money. and I am totally under my expected value (like 54k USD!). thats kind of a joke, that i am loosing almost every All In, i am in with. i am pretty sure, your software is totally rigged for me (and must not be for others!). please look into all of my hands and look for strange behaviour like folding way to good hands of my opponents.

i am a maths guy and this statistics sucks big time. i am also >10years online professional poker player and never saw such a strange statistic. also, i do get my money in the middle of the table almost always bad in setups like my kings against his aces. thats soooooooo odd!

seems like gypsy poker with players from your company or their friends.



in total, i am up 51k USD in my database (+rakeback, i said its 1k, must be even more, because of first deposit). so 135+52-26= 161k USD must be added back to my balance. i have all played hands from the saved hand histories in my database, so no data is missing there.







please investigate it exactly. i am one of the best holdem players in the world for sure. for me, running that strange and loosing so much money by your software seems totally odd, even if i am up in poker for >50kUSD, which is normal for me. i am pretty sure, i didnt lost 160k in poker in an maximal 5/10 game. I did play HU quite a lot and crushed one guy for 34k yesterday in a 6 tables HU 5/10 and don't know, how I lost that much money. I did cash in during sessions, so I didnt had a tracking in the night. I didn't thought, that I cashed in that big till I got very suspicious yesterday. there is a big cash flow going on in my BTC and poker life....

please check your algorithm as well.















thats my email to tigergaming. big scam!

how can i get contact to that companies holding the licenses and controlling that case? I dont trust tigergaming at all... where do I find help???





Thanks,

Konstantin
Dude do you hear your self ? Your praising yourself then accusing a site of cheating with some dumb hand ranges . Get a life you POS and everyone goes through a rough patch and it happens to all. And you are not the best player because there are thousands of you complaining and crying over bad beats so just shut up.

On top your telling the site how much money to add lolz I think it's time you call that 1800 gambler like or seek some help .
12-02-2021 , 09:42 AM
lol, you are a math genius. i didnt lost 20k yesterday in my pokertracker...

but in the account, they are missing.


i just need a number, where i can call, because of fraud, not an non fitting strange answer about me seeing the numbers wrong ^^


its BTC cash in + pokertracker results + rakeback - account money = 162k USD.
12-02-2021 , 09:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganesh2022
lol, you are a math genius. i didnt lost 20k yesterday in my pokertracker...
Ok scholar just stop crying like a girl.i have friends who have been on tiger gaming for past 15 yrs but only an idiot math scholar like you is being cheated lolz and the world's best player comes on two plus with anew account to cry lol
12-02-2021 , 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganesh2022
... how can i get contact to that companies holding the licenses and controlling that case? ...
If they are licensed or regulated, the details will be in their Terms & Condtions that you agree to when you signed up.
12-02-2021 , 11:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganesh2022
lol, you are a math genius. i didnt lost 20k yesterday in my pokertracker...

but in the account, they are missing.


i just need a number, where i can call, because of fraud, not an non fitting strange answer about me seeing the numbers wrong ^^


its BTC cash in + pokertracker results + rakeback - account money = 162k USD.



Send it to support@tigergaming.com and mention that you need the case escalated to the Fraud Specialist Team.
12-03-2021 , 03:06 AM
support told me 30h ago, that this case will be looked up in 24h and I will get a call in 24 hours. nobody did call or write a email.

dont cash in at tigergaming or chico network
12-03-2021 , 05:26 AM
after posting here, I got an email, that I have to wait....



and its not like 5k difference. its 162k USD difference. and its not like 10k under EV. I am up 52k and 56k under EV. in a 1k max game, on average I was playing NL504. thats more than 100 Stacks under EV + way more setups for my opponents then for me.

thats a strange mathematic and statistic. in calculation of normal equipartition, its not possible to run >100stacks worse than average in under 150k hands played. i played just 56k hands => some persons of the software team running a software inside the tigergaming software to rip me off. there is no other explaination possible inside of normal equipartition.

or my pokertracker or my brain are >110k USD off. and I didnt loose that big. its like 200 stacks... by 6 tabling on my laptop. my eyes are connected in a wicked way with my brain :lol:


and I have BTC big time. so I don't care much money in this range. so there is no reason to try to be a victim of a scam. I have already everything I need and don't know, what to do with money.

Last edited by Ganesh2022; 12-03-2021 at 05:50 AM.
12-03-2021 , 09:10 AM
You sound like a total idiot by just keep bragging about money and how Rich you are Indian Elon Musk!!! Lol
12-03-2021 , 12:00 PM
thanks for your comment. I'm loving it
12-03-2021 , 01:29 PM
I have some contacts to Chico and I might be able to help you, but please answer me a few things first to help me help you:

Where are you from? Which country are you located right now?
Before you cashed in on Tigergaming, where did you play poker? On which site and on which stakes?
Can you post the Pokertracker 4 graph with your winnings and EV winnings?
Why did you decide to deposit 135k on a site where the highest game is 5/10$?

Thanks
12-03-2021 , 01:46 PM
i don't answer that all here. I do play all stakes, mostly HU.
write me a PM with your connections to chico and I will answer.
12-03-2021 , 03:01 PM
Thats not how it works buddy
You can PM me your answers, but until I know you are sincere you wont recieve any help from me
12-03-2021 , 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganesh2022
also, i do get my money in the middle of the table almost always bad in setups like my kings against his aces. thats soooooooo odd!
took you somewhat seriously right up until this part
12-03-2021 , 03:35 PM
its >100stacks under EV within 56k hands.
and its 86% of negativ setups in comparison to positiv setups in my database.
thats kind of impossible for a standard normal distribution.
the propability for that happening is <0,012%.
>100 stacks under EV in 56k hands: < 0,0000000000001%
that both events will happen to a player: 0,[28 zeros]1%


that's the mathematics behind it. it's impossible without a software manipulation.
+ Money is gone out of my account without me doing anything like playing or betting.

===> SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



What's the number of the police, I could call on them? They still proove it in their team, but there are sitting the thiefs.



@NINzent: i gonna do, if I need help like this.

Last edited by Ganesh2022; 12-03-2021 at 03:42 PM.
12-03-2021 , 03:40 PM
I dont understand your answer, but as long as I dont have more info I cant help you
12-03-2021 , 03:47 PM
its a mathematical answer. what is the point, you don't understand?
proof it with some statistics guy from the university. and I don't need a connection to them. I can phone them by myself. but thanks!



my account is also closed now with the rest of my money without my permission and against my "let it open". they said, they let it open in the costumer chat and then closed it 1 day later, so I can not connect that easily to their chatting team and don't have access to my account/money.
12-03-2021 , 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganesh2022
... What's the number of the police, I could call on them? ...
If you're in the UK, try https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/.
12-03-2021 , 03:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganesh2022
its a mathematical answer. what is the point, you don't understand?
proof it with some statistics guy from the university. and I don't need a connection to them. I can phone them by myself. but thanks!



my account is also closed now with the rest of my money without my permission and against my "let it open". they said, they let it open in the costumer chat and then closed it 1 day later, so I can not connect that easily to their chatting team and don't have access to my account/money.
Can you at least post a picture of your graph from Pokertracker here?
12-04-2021 , 10:40 AM
Hello Konstantin,

What is your relation to the DoomTroll account? Are you also playing on that account?

What poker programs besides a tracker are you using while playing?

Please also provide answers to the questions NINzent asked as well as providing your poker graph that you say is showing you different results.
12-04-2021 , 11:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganesh2022
its a mathematical answer. what is the point, you don't understand?
proof it with some statistics guy from the university. and I don't need a connection to them. I can phone them by myself. but thanks!



my account is also closed now with the rest of my money without my permission and against my "let it open". they said, they let it open in the costumer chat and then closed it 1 day later, so I can not connect that easily to their chatting team and don't have access to my account/money.
You said you have so much money that you don't know what to do with it. So forget this money.... Just come play on America's card room on winning network..

You will keep winning because you are one of the best players.
12-06-2021 , 03:05 PM
Hi Ganesh2022,

My name is Chris and I help moderate the forum for the Chico Network. I can assure you that these matters are taken seriously and are always handled in a very diligent way. While I can't retrieve details related to the case for security reasons, I would like to make myself available if you ever run into a communication delay with Tigergaming representatives. You may contact me privately on this forum if you would like to share or escalate further information for Game Security to review.

My best,
Chris
12-10-2021 , 11:09 PM
total scam at hand 860722700:

software runs it 3 times, i win 2 runs and lost 1.

my stack: 250.5BB
her effective stack: 85.16BB
there was a 2BB call from the BU and 1/2BB from the SB in.

=> 172.82BB Pot (0.56BB are Rake)
1/3 of the pot is then 57.61 BB
2/3 of the pot is then 115.213 BB



begin of the hand:

look to the stack of pokerlady.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cvo...ew?usp=sharing

I am MP with Jack of spades and Jack of heart. she is BB.
I open 2BB, BU calls, she raises to 4.75BB (which is very odd for her!).
I reraise to 16.75BB, BU folds, she calls.
Pot is now 36BB, with 0.55BB Rake.

Flop comes
5h 3d 7h

She leads out for Pot, I reraise, she calls it of and tables Ac4c.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch0...ew?usp=sharing

She asks for running it 3 times as we did. I win both first runs, she the third run.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CgP...ew?usp=sharing

=> 172.26BB Pot + 0.56BB Rake
1/3 of the pot is then 57.42 BB
2/3 of the pot is then 114.84 BB

Beginn of the hand:
my stack: 250.5BB
her effective stack: 85.16BB

=> She should have 85.16BB - 57.42BB
Her stack should be 27,74BB


My stack should now be
250.5BB + 57.42BB = 307.92BB

My stack and her stack after that hand 860722700:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cdg...ew?usp=sharing


My stack is there

280.18BB
=>
I lost in that hand:
307.92BB - 280.18BB = 27,74BB

Her stack
57.42BB
=>
Her stack should be 27,74BB

So she won 27,74BB in 1 hand

So Software works with her and most likely with a lot of regulars there.



SCAM scandal
12-10-2021 , 11:14 PM
total scam at hand 860722700:

software runs it 3 times, i win 2 runs and lost 1.

my stack: 250.5BB
her effective stack: 85.16BB
there was a 2BB call from the BU and 1/2BB from the SB in.

=> 172.82BB Pot (0.56BB are Rake)
1/3 of the pot is then 57.61 BB
2/3 of the pot is then 115.213 BB



begin of the hand:

look to the stack of pokerlady.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cvo...ew?usp=sharing

I am MP with Jack of spades and Jack of heart. she is BB.
I open 2BB, BU calls, she raises to 4.75BB (which is very odd for her!).
I reraise to 16.75BB, BU folds, she calls.
Pot is now 36BB, with 0.55BB Rake.

Flop comes
5h 3d 7h

She leads out for Pot, I reraise, she calls it of and tables Ac4c.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch0...ew?usp=sharing

She asks for running it 3 times as we did. I win both first runs, she the third run.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CgP...ew?usp=sharing

=> 172.26BB Pot + 0.56BB Rake
1/3 of the pot is then 57.42 BB
2/3 of the pot is then 114.84 BB

Beginn of the hand:
my stack: 250.5BB
her effective stack: 85.16BB

=> She should have 85.16BB - 57.42BB
Her stack should be 27,74BB


My stack should now be
250.5BB + 57.42BB = 307.92BB

My stack and her stack after that hand 860722700:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cdg...ew?usp=sharing


My stack is there

280.18BB
=>
I lost in that hand:
307.92BB - 280.18BB = 27,74BB

Her stack
57.42BB
=>
Her stack should be 27,74BB

So she won 57.42BB - 27,74BB = 29.54BB in 1 hand loosing 2 out of 3.

Fact:
Software works with her and most likely with a lot of regulars there.

Software also pays of 2BB extra from my stolen money, some of the thiefs told me.


SCAM scandal

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-scam-1799558/

Last edited by Ganesh2022; 12-10-2021 at 11:37 PM.
12-10-2021 , 11:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganesh2022

1/3 of the pot is then 57.42 BB
2/3 of the pot is then 114.84 BB


Her stack should be 27,74BB
You may want to think through this entire thing one more time
Closed Thread Subscribe
...

      
m