For a long time I've been playing poker succesfully.

Since 2 months though I am seeing strange things, not occasionally but the last 3 weeks constantly.

I can divide those suspects in 2 category's:

- Players with absurd stats, 100% raise flop, 100% raise river kinda stats
- Players who run as god for months

The first screenname I would like to investigate is:

<SCREENNAMES ON REQUEST>

This player plays at Everest poker at <STAKES ON REQUEST>. It seems he is multi accounting as well as there are a bunch of other players with identical stats. I wont provide those other playernames yet.

If there are people who can help me with this I will provide more detailed information.

So far this player is running +5BB/100 over a huge sample of hundreds of thousands of hands.

Surprisingly this player never has a downswing but ships in a couple of hundred bucks on daily basis. In fact I've never seen this player having a loosing day while we all have loosing streaks of weeks occasionally. Somehow that never happens to these users which I find extremely uncommon.

I dont have time to play detective myself, I will continue to play on one of the bigger sites as my faith is completely gone at the smaller networks.

Surprisingly I just took a look there and it seems this user closed all the tables where it had profit as well as some other users where I have screennames from with almost identical stats.

Interesting fact is that this is occuring since Everest Poker is sold. Before I never experienced similiar problems. New staff new trouble it seems.

the other thread ruined your credibility a little but yes it is def possible on these other smaller sites people are superusing, your solution since the sites arent doing anything for you is to simply not play these guys nemore

also never post there sn in the actual form, the fact that you just posted his sn means if he is a superuser he will pull most of his money off the site and you cant get a refund, edit it immediately if u can and see if others have the same concerns, but only if the play is super suspicious and not that he is just beating you alot, i mean like raising 4th pair on the river for value and being good each time

johnny i have examples of hands that make you stunning. to give myself some more credibility I chose to post 1 screenname while in fact I'm talking about a dozen screennames that I find highly suspicious, I hope this thread will get some attention so people can help/advise me how to deal with this.

I won't settle with just not playing them anymore,'instead I will keep playing them as it's only to gather enough hands to build up a case.

My money is lost here and I will be credited for this or I will put everything that lays in my power to get that site down.

I am not sure if it's common knowledge but pokersites are able to take screenshots of the users computers, this is build in in the pokerclient. While transferring the screenshot through the client they can easily see your holecards.

Originally this is meant to detect cheaters who use prohibited software while it can be used for very different purposes as we know now.

That way a site also doesn't have to screw with there software in case some corrupt Kahnawakkee gaming consultancy checks them out. Wasn't the chief of that Indian reserve part of the whole Cereus/UB scam as well?

And that's the whole problem about internet poker, there is no regulation at all and even if there was regulation, the sites make so incredibly much money that there will always be ways to work around that.

Allright, screennames are edited, I will provide those on request to the people who can mean something in this case.

I wish I was just beaten a lot.

Some reasons why I find it highly suspicious:

- These users fold an awfully lot of times on the bigblind when I have a strong holding, AJ+ QQ+, while there fold on BB % is around 10% it seems that they fold at least 50% of the time when I hold a strong hand

- I've seen those users call flop + turn bets with a single gutshot, no overcards or other backdoor draws, not even drawing to 2nd or 3rd pair.

- Those users call with holdings like J7o on boards like AK92 to hit a 7 at the river. I can't imagine people want to draw to 2nd midpair. A flop call, perhaps if you want to draw a J or a backdoor straightdraw. But a turn call? Hmmm

- Those users seems to hit an awfully lot of boards and an absurd high winrate, as I'm a winning player myself I looked up my hand sample and conclude that I still win vs almost all players that are not on my list. Till these players appear on my tables and I loose 50BB buyins in no time, not rarely, almost any time, to be honest I never had a winning session vs one of these players while I played them quiet a lot at first.

This are just some random examples, to be continued.

I want to be stunning, too! Let's see some hands.

It just sold. http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news...venue-plummets

You previously said you had 500,000 hand history of 5BB win rate evidencing cheating, now you say it is a recent occurrence.

I found out recently indeed, before I avoided other regs. This player is active for a very long time so the 500k hands is a roughly guess. Could be more or less. I don't owe all the hands, when it comes that far I guess Everest would have to supply those hands as I havent played 500k hands vs them ofcourse. A friend of mine datamined about 90k hands for what I know, perhaps even more, the problem with datamined hands is that a lot of hands end up in the muck where we are not able to see there holecards.

Like I mentioned earlyer, if there is someone to stand up who can seriously help me with this I can provide several screennames that we can look into, the screenname I mentioned and edited later on is a continuation of anohter user that he followed up in the sense of:

First there was Player A, playing an awfully lot which was running extreme hot, all of a sudden this screenname disappeared from one day to the other and the same day anohter user with exact identical stats, identical playing style and same winrate showed up, playing the exact same stakes, same ammount of tables and same hours of the day, what a coincedence.

I'm not going to post hands for action seekers. People that were perhaps involved in investigating the Cereus scam can contact me by pm, or people who know how to contact them I would also like to ask to get in contact with me.

So, are you suggesting that Everest is rigged?

5BB/100 doens't sound too clever for someone with complete information.
I ran at that for March + April, 50k hands. Is someone going to investigate me

Consider yourself under investigation.

Please post all 50K HH in your next message.

We will investigate and get back to you soon.

cheater

I hope people don't waste their time dealing with the OP, you're a ****ing travesty djdanny.

Can't say I am surprised about the reactions. Well like I said, the evidence is here on my computer but even with that people won't take it serious cause they simply don't want to beleive that there is a lot of wrong stuff going on. Just part of poker right? 90% for the site, 10% for the players, thats how it go's.

Soon I will contact my lawyer and we'll take the legal route, if there is any legal route in this scamming sector.

what is your source for this info

This is from his first OP in HUL. He started talking about Superusers less than an hour later, after it was suggested that he was running bad and tilting.

My source is my friend that is a pokerbot developer that datamined him for over 100k hands because PokerTableRatings.com doesn't track Everest Poker.

The screenname of the housebot we talk about is PokerNelly. This is just one of the screennames that I find highly suspicious.

I have friends that are very active in the poker "botting" scene. Can't care about that as very decent players will be able to beat bots that are not HOUSE bots.

I wanted to build up the story, the first post was an introduction post but based on the negative reactions I decided to throw it wide in the open.

I am not suggesting anything, Everest poker is RIGGED and that's a plain fact. **** this.

That's what we like here - all the evidence you have showed us.

lol it gets better, I can see this one ending up in HOF
First you complain about cheats with no evidence, and then accidentally admit to supporting and using info gained from cheats yourself. Too good man lolz

That is an allegation without evidence.

As such it's completely worthless.