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Old 04-16-2012, 01:30 AM   #351
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Re: Scammed by Hambone4k?

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Any restitution case such as this if you win you can get 100% lawyer fees and fees obtained for something like a CPA to audit the numbers from the defendant... There is a contract, chat logs, and posting logs that admit guilt plus data that clearly shows a breach in contract.

I would 110% go to court for the 8k.. In the end you will win 8k plus 3k layer fees. Get bank accounts garnished and really make Eric Hardt (the theif who openly broke a contract and stole money) life's worse then it is today.

Small claims court caps the money amount before the 8k and doesn't allow the laywyer fees to be recouped. I would file a civil case.

I could help in something like this, feel free to Pm me.

Don't forget he has to hire representation that cannot recoup the costs outside of his own pocketbook.

Depends on the state for Small claims court. In some states the amount is 10k or more. Now the lawyer fees your probably right but maybe some states are different.

OP did you file any reports with the police or anything like that? The scammers are all over. I just sold some stuff and the buyer claims the box was empty. He paid by paypal so I'm probably going to get screwed there. I filed a report with the Internet Crime Complaint Center. Not sure what their stance is on your situation.

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:17 AM   #352
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It's also in the interests of the 2p2 community to not give the false impression that player to player transfers are anything but risky, and that there is little hope of restitution should somebody decide to screw you over.
Nobody ever said it was 100% safe... Just the fact that there is a thread for it should not suggest that it is safe. I guess that would be similar to saying that because prostitutes put ads on Craigslist, one should assume they are legit and STD free so go ahead and do it w/o protection.
Only thing is, here one can easily perform due diligence and make better decisions.

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Going to civil trial with a competent lawyer over an $8,000 debt is going to be -EV. Lawyers aren't cheap. Small claims court seems to be the best option. And it's probably worth a shot. I was curious though if one person in the history of scams involving player to player transfers had successfully obtained a judgment. If not, then I think that's very telling.
Asking a lawyer about this is the best advice I can give, small claims or civil trial, idk which one will be more effective. The answer is yes, and there was already a link posted on that... Also, I promise there have been other forms of "restitution" many times throughout the history of poker and money scams. It wont be hard to find Eric, personally I would start charging interest on that and find him in vegas, by then the debt will be racked up high enough to hire someone to go beat him out of it.

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I will neither confirm nor deny that I'm Eric Hardt.
I mean, I was mostly kidding, I just found it odd that anyone would post anything that could be read by Eric Hardt and lead him to believe he is getting off scott-free.
One lie leads to another.

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Old 04-18-2012, 09:23 AM   #353
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Any restitution case such as this if you win you can get 100% lawyer fees and fees obtained for something like a CPA to audit the numbers from the defendant... There is a contract, chat logs, and posting logs that admit guilt plus data that clearly shows a breach in contract.

I would 110% go to court for the 8k.. In the end you will win 8k plus 3k layer fees. Get bank accounts garnished and really make Eric Hardt (the theif who openly broke a contract and stole money) life's worse then it is today.

Small claims court caps the money amount before the 8k and doesn't allow the laywyer fees to be recouped. I would file a civil case.

I could help in something like this, feel free to Pm me.

Don't forget he has to hire representation that cannot recoup the costs outside of his own pocketbook.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:55 PM   #354
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Quick update: I am in contact with a Debt Collection lawyer and following his lead on how to proceed. After the bs Hambone4k has been pulling and his absolute lack of urgency/responsibility/dignity/nutsack I am going to give him the worst punishment possible.

Hambone's latest email (after I quoted Lock's email, and told him to sell his car to pay me):
"Can you just forward me the original e-mail? Thats all I'm asking to see. And I literally do have zero dollars and don't own a car. I'm not trying to be ****ty about the situation at all. If you would have sent me the original e-mail from lock weeks ago, I'd have been able to figure a lot more out. But if you think I'm going to alienate friends and people I know without any information directly from them that the play came from the same internet connection, that is absolutely not going to happen. I already have enough issues, so I absolutely do want to get this situation resolved as quickly as possible. I just hope you'll get me the information that I need as quickly as I can. Any e-mails you have from them would be great."

As if Lock would even send me detailed IP addresses about another player
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:04 PM   #355
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meh, i guess i still dont really understand why you cant send him the first email. yea, maybe he will use it to help his story, but it seems like you have already said what the email contained and he knows the idea of it anyways
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:04 PM   #356
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Re: Scammed by Hambone4k?

seriously, what is wrong with this guy, how can he send emails like that and live with himself, very scary to say the least...
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:38 PM   #357
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I already have enough issues
Understatement of the year.
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:55 PM   #358
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Quick update: I am in contact with a Debt Collection lawyer and following his lead on how to proceed. After the bs Hambone4k has been pulling and his absolute lack of urgency/responsibility/dignity/nutsack I am going to give him the worst punishment possible.

Hambone's latest email (after I quoted Lock's email, and told him to sell his car to pay me):
"Can you just forward me the original e-mail? Thats all I'm asking to see. And I literally do have zero dollars and don't own a car. I'm not trying to be ****ty about the situation at all. If you would have sent me the original e-mail from lock weeks ago, I'd have been able to figure a lot more out. But if you think I'm going to alienate friends and people I know without any information directly from them that the play came from the same internet connection, that is absolutely not going to happen. I already have enough issues, so I absolutely do want to get this situation resolved as quickly as possible. I just hope you'll get me the information that I need as quickly as I can. Any e-mails you have from them would be great."

As if Lock would even send me detailed IP addresses about another player

Sounds like the situation is starting to hit him. Not enough to give you your money but from his tone he realizes he is in deep. I still don't get what the email will help him figure out more. There is only one resolution that is acceptable and that is repayment of your funds.

Does anyone know the outcome of that steroids case? I wonder if he is on probation?
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:02 PM   #359
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I still don't get what the email will help him figure out more.
It'll help him put together a terrible lie about how someone also hacked his IP address.
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:04 PM   #360
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Any updates on this?
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:16 PM   #361
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Re: Scammed by Hambone4k?

Hambone4k used his outstanding knowledge of computing to hack 2+2 and make this problem go away for a bit imo.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:18 PM   #362
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This probably has not been resolved but don't think it is right for this to just die.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:34 PM   #363
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This probably has not been resolved but don't think it is right for this to just die.
agreed
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:41 PM   #364
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Would love to pay this guy a visit.....total POS essentially blaming OP for allowing him to scam him, lucky it wasn't me.....I'd probably be locked up lol
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Old 06-15-2012, 03:49 PM   #365
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

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I agree.

He has not PM'ed regarding this situation I welcome him to post here also to sort all this out. I know he checks hsnl so refusing to talk to me or post here is pretty sketchy.
Its east to say you got hacked when you get a xfer and donk it off expecting to have a quick win and ship the xfer right back withing a couple of hrs, Sounds like he failed at this and now doesn't want to man up on his BOA end.


I have had this happen to me twice in my short career for 8k and then for 3.5k plus 728$

Unfortunate but You did the right thing in exposing the issue to the public.

Bets of luck on you getting honored!
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:11 PM   #366
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There was a serious medical issue which precluded me from continuing.

I'm looking forward to getting back in touch with bcgt178 and Hambone4k.

I'll need a day to re-read the thread and all the PM's.

@bcgt178, unless you have done so already, poise yourself for filing a criminal report with both your local police and the Macomb Police Department.

@Hambone4k, get ready to name some names.
Clamper to the rescue , lol , looks like you got in there and got to the bottom of this
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:15 PM   #367
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Hey, what is going on with this? Clamper13 can we have an update please?
did you ever get back in touch with Hambone4k?
bcgt178, please tell me the police are involved now...
I genuinely care about this situation and hope it gets resolved
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:48 PM   #368
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:20 PM   #369
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Can we get an update from all of the armchair lawyers who said out would be trivially easy to get a judgment?
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:35 PM   #370
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Im starting to think maybe clamper got... well um, clamped?

I mean he just went missing sometime in april. Im not really joking about this, i think there is reason for concern
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:10 AM   #371
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There was a serious medical issue which precluded me from continuing.
...maybe this had something to do with why he went missing.

Hope you're doing ok Clamper
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:02 AM   #372
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Hope you're doing ok Clamper
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Old 07-08-2012, 05:55 AM   #373
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email sent to Clamper
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:53 AM   #374
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Here's the thread, i think everyone is referring to: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...victed-338205/

did that guy really get 3 years for 700$

If so, there should be a clamper fund for him to do this fulltime.
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Old 07-15-2012, 01:00 AM   #375
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