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Old 03-08-2012, 12:05 PM   #1
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Scammed by Hambone4k?

The short story is I (DutchBook on Lock) was on the HSNL transfer thread looking to trade some Lock money for Boa transfer, I made an agreement with Hambone4k (Smittty1717 on Lock) after PMing and AIMing with him, and I checked his references which were solid then sent him 8k in exchange for a BoA transfer he agreed to make. He never did and never responded to my PMs after that, he claims his account was hacked because he checked table ratings and saw he was down almost 7k and that he hopes to be reimbursed. Something is going on here I PM'ed LockShane and he is looking into the account.

JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo were the primary benefactors to Smitty1717's brief 25/50 sessions, if they read this please respond with their account of what happened. If this is truly a hack job/scam I hope you will be willing to talk to me about it. If it is chip dumping it is more of a Lock issue I believe.

Any other people who have dealt with Hambone4k and just want to offer helpful opinions please do.

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Old 03-08-2012, 12:59 PM   #2
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

Here is a link to Hambone4k's "account" of what happened

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...at-do-1177006/
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Old 03-08-2012, 01:55 PM   #3
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

If he got hacked that is very unfortunate for him but I would still expect him to still make the Boa transfer
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:15 PM   #4
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

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If he got hacked that is very unfortunate for him but I would still expect him to still make the Boa transfer
def this
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:55 PM   #5
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

I agree.

He has not PM'ed regarding this situation I welcome him to post here also to sort all this out. I know he checks hsnl so refusing to talk to me or post here is pretty sketchy.
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:59 PM   #6
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

What is the date and time you initiated the transfer, and when was it approved?

Please verify the account name you sent to.

Smittty1717 on Lock or Smitty1717 on Lock?

Something else?
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:29 PM   #7
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

Think you should change title until you get more info. Gl getting funds
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:44 PM   #8
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

wow, so hambone looks as if he requested trade of 8k for BOA transfer, received the money and was then "hacked"? or am i missing something
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:46 PM   #9
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

here's the email I got from Lock verbatim:

This is an automated message sent from Lock Poker.

Dear [my real name],

Your requested player transfer to Smitty1717 has been APPROVED.

Transfer ID: 254608
Amount: 8000.00
Currency: USD
Date & Time: Tue 6th March 2012, 17:56:30

Thank you for playing at Lock Poker and good luck to you both.


Kind Regards,

The Lock Poker Support Team
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:50 PM   #10
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

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Think you should change title until you get more info. Gl getting funds
You're right, how do I do that?
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:55 PM   #11
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Date & Time: Tue 6th March 2012, 17:56:30
What time zone is this? GMT? EST? Other?
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:01 PM   #12
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wow, so hambone looks as if he requested trade of 8k for BOA transfer, received the money and was then "hacked"? or am i missing something
That is what he is claiming, but he is not responding to any of my several attempts to contact him. And he never sent the BoA funds and did not explain to me personally what happened.

To be clear this is the order of what happened: I posted on 2+2 transfer thread, we exchanged 4 or 5 pm's, we then chatted on AIM for 10-15 minutes and agreed on the terms of the trade (I will post that convo if he continues to not respond), then I sent Lock funds. Since then I haven't heard from him and he posted the thread about his account being hacked and table ratings shows his account lost ~7k. I'm in contact with LockShane I will post his reaction to this as necessary
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:07 PM   #13
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

0% chance he got hacked
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:08 PM   #14
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

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...we then chatted on AIM...
Please PM to me his AIM address and any other info.
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:08 PM   #15
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

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That is what he is claiming, but he is not responding to any of my several attempts to contact him. And he never sent the BoA funds and did not explain to me personally what happened.

To be clear this is the order of what happened: I posted on 2+2 transfer thread, we exchanged 4 or 5 pm's, we then chatted on AIM for 10-15 minutes and agreed on the terms of the trade (I will post that convo if he continues to not respond), then I sent Lock funds. Since then I haven't heard from him and he posted the thread about his account being hacked and table ratings shows his account lost ~7k. I'm in contact with LockShane I will post his reaction to this as necessary
looks like you got scammed. That's obvious he got the 8k from you and chip dumped to a friend so theirs no way you could get the money back.
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:18 PM   #16
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

Looks like you got scammed. The guy is playing SNGs as I type this.
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:29 PM   #17
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

I'm confused. Are JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo even aware that they played and won money vs a hacked account?

Are you implying that they were involved in chip dumping or just that they had a winning session?

If they have been contacted, what was their response?

If not, the title of this thread seems horribly inappropriate.
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:33 PM   #18
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

@ bcgt178

My hope is to accumulate enough information to get the police knocking on his door. Maybe then he'll see to help getting this sorted out.

Check out my 2+2 history and ask around. You'll see that I dont **** around with this kind of stuff.
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:56 PM   #19
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

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0% chance he got hacked
pretty much this, dumped your funds to a friend thinking he can claim hack, what a piece of ****
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:56 PM   #20
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

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@ bcgt178

My hope is to accumulate enough information to get the police knocking on his door. Maybe then he'll see to help getting this sorted out.

Check out my 2+2 history and ask around. You'll see that I dont **** around with this kind of stuff.
dude your the man if what you say is true, has this worked in any previous cases?

link me plz
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:57 PM   #21
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The guy isn't chip dumping. He is just degening the money away.
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:03 PM   #22
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dude your the man if what you say is true, has this worked in any previous cases?

link me plz
Here's the latest.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post29387801

But read the entire thread if you have the time. Quite a story.
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:09 PM   #23
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Re: I got scammed JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo PLEASE READ

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I'm confused. Are JoeBanana5 and Scobidoo even aware that they played and won money vs a hacked account?

Are you implying that they were involved in chip dumping or just that they had a winning session?

If they have been contacted, what was their response?

If not, the title of this thread seems horribly inappropriate.
I can only guess that they didn't know, I wanted to get their version of what happened I know joebanana is a HS reg I wanted to hear his opinion on whether this was a hack job or more likely that Hambone4k was really playing and donked off the money. And to get the two of them on the record that it wasn't chip dumping.

But I think the thread title could be more direct if someone tells me how to I will
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:10 PM   #24
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But I think the thread title could be more direct if someone tells me how to I will
I alerted a mod.
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:15 PM   #25
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Here's the latest.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post29387801

But read the entire thread if you have the time. Quite a story.
His AIM is stunner158, per his last PM to me. We chatted for about 10-15 min I'll be glad to post that convo if he doesn't PM me or post somewhere giving more info.

I am in contact with Lock and their security team/"Manager" and possibly their legal counsel so will post that info too.

Regarding your previous post the time is their server time which I believe is Eastern Standard.

Thanks for your help I'll talk with you privately as well but I like keeping it public because I think everyone should hear this stuff.
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