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Scam in Americas Cardroom in tournaments? Bug of client? Scam in Americas Cardroom in tournaments? Bug of client?

06-20-2023 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lebanoncheaters
i973767 has been on more than anyone
yep, too often, on my last screen https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...3&postcount=16 for example
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06-20-2023 , 03:04 AM
artem99955 and i973767 working together to get the bounty to put chips in. that should be clipped and sent to ACR
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06-20-2023 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by lebanoncheaters
artem99955 and i973767 working together to get the bounty to put chips in. that should be clipped and sent to ACR
This happens very often where the table basically colludes to rope in the streamer to be pot committed. It happened in sodas tournament when grm211 won his bounty.

I feel like "mmtome" can be added to the list. Seen that name too often at streamers tables.
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06-20-2023 , 04:07 AM
I just dm'd a bunch of sponsored acr players this thread so maybe they can get it to support. I've sent like 6 emails on this subject and haven't got any emails back besides some auto reply BS.
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06-21-2023 , 12:07 AM
add WisePoker to the list. Seen that name very often lately. They are HungryBox's table right now.
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06-21-2023 , 12:17 AM
I'm gonna clip HungryBox's VOD later. I think I found some people colluding on accident in the twitch chat. Not that it really matters in the end.
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06-21-2023 , 01:32 AM




Next second
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06-21-2023 , 01:38 AM
Yeah papado4a and Mountianbatten got on hbox's table twice in one tournament. These guys are so cocky about it. I'd also add krikrilucky to the list. Seen that name many a time.
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06-21-2023 , 01:15 PM


Six screenshots that document on Wednesday June 21st 2023 papado4a & Mountianbatten were successfully able to get seated on the streamers table to win a $1000 bounty twice in one tournament.
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06-21-2023 , 10:35 PM


papado4a on Amouranth's table right now
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06-22-2023 , 08:15 PM


as soon as a seat opened up Avanger243 was able to fill it.
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06-22-2023 , 10:25 PM


Mountianbatten just appeared on Summits table when a seat opened up.

flycatcher777 just got on his table too. Feel like I keep seeing that name. Mountain & fly are both from Ukraine also.

i973767 (Russia) now too.

mmtome (Russia) on his table.

Last edited by iTz gUidO yO; 06-22-2023 at 10:46 PM. Reason: two more cheaters got on his table while posting this.
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06-23-2023 , 12:10 AM


Ka1nns and streamers tables. Name a better duo.
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06-23-2023 , 11:34 PM


Krikrilucky on his table again. 3 players from Lebanon. Saleh990 is a repeat offender. Farahh ended up winning the 1k bounty and romanb is a familiar name.



HBox registers again and none other then papado4a is at his table
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06-24-2023 , 02:34 AM
****ing obviosly papado4a is using soft/scripts

Found Farahh in my old screenshots..

CashAlkash was there in these screens twice or more


Just remember ACR's Security and Game Integrity Policy:

5.3 Bumhunting: The practice of over-targeting a certain player population, or a specific player.


5.7 Angle Shooting: Any behavior, action, or pattern not described already in the present policy that a user might exploit in their favor, disrupting the “spirit of the game”, to gain any sort of advantage, including but not limited to exploiting software bugs, deceiving or tricking other players. WPN reserves the right to deem other unforeseen scenarios as such."

Who cares..?
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06-24-2023 , 10:20 AM
If ACR didn't sponsor these twitch streamers I wouldn't care at all. I played on ACR in 2015 but haven't deposited on there since 2020. I'll never deposit ever again because of how it's run. Twitch is my main site for entertainment so what pisses me off is ACR sponsoring all these streamers I watch and the giveaways are won mostly by cheaters and you have zero shot getting on the streamers table because of all the exploiters. I feel like if Twitch knew what was going on they could do something about this because ACR clearly isn't doing anything.
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06-24-2023 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by iTz gUidO yO
If ACR didn't sponsor these twitch streamers I wouldn't care at all. I played on ACR in 2015 but haven't deposited on there since 2020. I'll never deposit ever again because of how it's run. Twitch is my main site for entertainment so what pisses me off is ACR sponsoring all these streamers I watch and the giveaways are won mostly by cheaters and you have zero shot getting on the streamers table because of all the exploiters. I feel like if Twitch knew what was going on they could do something about this because ACR clearly isn't doing anything.
I mean one one side its good that people are aware of it but on the other hand the reaction of ACR will probably be to just cancel the tournaments at some point if people complain over and over. The reason why they dont investigate/care enough is probably because its freerolls and they dont care enough to really make efforts and investigate freerolls.


The chances to be at a streamers table (and bust him) were very very slim anyway.

Not in any way want to defend those cheaters but the only thing that will be accomplished is that ACR will cancel these pretty valuable freerolls.

So looking at the big picure im not sure if the effort was worth it if they decide to cancel them because of too many complaints.
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06-24-2023 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Helllsreal
I mean one one side its good that people are aware of it but on the other hand the reaction of ACR will probably be to just cancel the tournaments at some point if people complain over and over. The reason why they dont investigate/care enough is probably because its freerolls and they dont care enough to really make efforts and investigate freerolls.


The chances to be at a streamers table (and bust him) were very very slim anyway.

Not in any way want to defend those cheaters but the only thing that will be accomplished is that ACR will cancel these pretty valuable freerolls.

So looking at the big picure im not sure if the effort was worth it if they decide to cancel them because of too many complaints.
I understand. They are good freerolls but if the greedy players ruin it so be it. My main problem is ACR is trying to get new players from all these twitch communities to sign up and play. But at the same time it's a false reality. One because the giveaways are mainly won by people using multiple twitch accounts to enter a giveaway. If my favorite streamer is like "sign up to ACR and if you are lucky enough you can get on my table and win $1000! Your first entry is free but you can rebuy for $2.20". The average viewer that falls into this trap has no chance of getting on their table and it isn't right. Yes, I've put in a lot of effort to watch streams and keep track of who wins giveaways and who is getting on streamers tables every time but you know it doesn't sit well with me at all. I'd be very happy if ACR just stops these in general until the issues were fixed.
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06-24-2023 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iTz gUidO yO
I understand. They are good freerolls but if the greedy players ruin it so be it. My main problem is ACR is trying to get new players from all these twitch communities to sign up and play. But at the same time it's a false reality. One because the giveaways are mainly won by people using multiple twitch accounts to enter a giveaway. If my favorite streamer is like "sign up to ACR and if you are lucky enough you can get on my table and win $1000! Your first entry is free but you can rebuy for $2.20". The average viewer that falls into this trap has no chance of getting on their table and it isn't right. Yes, I've put in a lot of effort to watch streams and keep track of who wins giveaways and who is getting on streamers tables every time but you know it doesn't sit well with me at all. I'd be very happy if ACR just stops these in general until the issues were fixed.
The thing is that sites in general will not stop these and fix. They will just cancel them if too many complains come up because its intended to promote the site and not to make people angry.

I totally get that u and others are upset. Me i play in those tournaments from the beginning without any hope to be at a streamers, i never watched any stream and made a nice profit in total anyway.

When something is for free in online poker and has great value its best to just never complain (sadly even when cheating is going on).
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06-24-2023 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Helllsreal
The thing is that sites in general will not stop these and fix. They will just cancel them if too many complains come up because its intended to promote the site and not to make people angry.

I totally get that u and others are upset. Me i play in those tournaments from the beginning without any hope to be at a streamers, i never watched any stream and made a nice profit in total anyway.

When something is for free in online poker and has great value its best to just never complain (sadly even when cheating is going on).
I'm with you for sure. I grind the freerolls as well and if I bust my free entry then that's it. I've won money in them but I sportsbet to make enough to withdraw it and that's it.

On a different note Twitch banned four crypto gambling sites including a big one called Stake because two popular streamers started streaming sponsored gambling (mostly slots and table games) and there was a big uproar about gambling to young viewers on twitch. ACR has slots and blackjack and deals mostly in crypto so it's odd that they are ok with ACR and twitch streamers doing sponsored gambling when last year they banned Stake, Roobet, Duelbits and Rollbit.
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06-25-2023 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Helllsreal

When something is for free in online poker and has great value its best to just never complain (sadly even when cheating is going on).
I don't completely agree with you, but I understand the point, and that's why I did this thread 2 months ago and not almost half of a year.
At least ACR could partially fix it by changing the structure of the tournament to blitz format or just remove late registration, but it is not profitable due to the lack of unlimited re-entry.
The room attracts people to the "system" that is obviously vulnerable.
If it were not for this vulnerability, then the lion's share of the prize money would not go to scammers. It would be more profitable for the room itself.
And there is no guarantee that such fraud/scam does not exist in real money tournaments.
The problem with giveaways and twitch's multiaccounts is also quite solvable linking twitch account to ACR client or something like that.
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06-25-2023 , 05:54 PM
Farahh right now
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06-28-2023 , 10:01 AM
Gone they are..
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07-01-2023 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Helllsreal
Gone they are..
Temporarily I'm sure, maybe months but not forever.
5 jule will be global update of acr software, interesting will they fix it or not.
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07-23-2023 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by iTz gUidO yO
I'd love to see ACR sponsoring streamers but not when both twitch and poker communities are being cheated with rigged giveaways and rigged bounty tables.
I came across this thread searching something else. What a coincidence. It it's obvious and ACR has allowed it to continue then what does that tell ya? Some real shady stuff here. What if I told you the process for onboarding Streamers (Stormers) is a fake front. Don't believe me? Sign up

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Originally Posted by iTz gUidO yO
as soon as a seat opened up Avanger243 was able to fill it.
ACR should consider a sponsorship with PornHub

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Originally Posted by iTz gUidO yO
I feel like if Twitch knew what was going on they could do something about this because ACR clearly isn't doing anything.
So they are either enabling it or ignoring feedback from their customers and allowing their customers to be exploited. Hmmm

Did this get fixed yet (since update)?
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