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06-07-2011 , 01:08 AM
Hey guys, I'm currently developing a paper for one of my university classes, and we've decided to analyse poker communities, learning, playing, etc. I would REALLY! appreciate if you can answer any of these questions, maybe pick one of each section and answer. It doesn't have to be a long answer, a very short one if you have no time! But the more answers the better. Please help a poker buddy out , it would mean a lot to me, and I only expect a short answer. Plus, I know it can be annoying but I really need it for this subject. Even though some questions might seem of obvious answer, I need to know your opinions about it. By the way, sorry if any of them are badly written, I'm not from an english speaking country (Argentina), and it's 3 am here :P.

THANK YOU!!


QUESTIONS



Communities of practice

Do you feel part of a team when you participate in an online forum regarding poker, when there are people willing to learn?

Do you feel passionate about poker?

Do you feel that you and your poker teammates (meaning other members of your community) share a specific goal they want to achieve, besides winning money? (such as learning, proving themselves what they are capable of, etc? If so, please share your view with us.

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Learning

How could you describe the importance of learning and studying in poker? Did they improve your game and the way you perceive things?

Do you perceive better results after learning, studying and acquiring knowledge?

Some authors argue that well educated and successful people don’t like failing and admitting they don’t know certain things just because they are used to success. How important do you think admitting that you may be failing and need improvement and training is in poker?

Senge is an author that mentions that growth can be limited by a compensating cycle or limiting factor. Many people in the world of poker agree in that being willing to study, learn, train and review previous hands is crucial to eliminate this limiting factor. Do you agree, or do you think there is something more to it?

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Mental processes

Has studying and learning poker changed your mental processes in relation to poker, allowing you to play better, or do you think training by playing has done a better job at it?

Maintaining the status quo is easy in the sense that it looking to change could make us suffer from psychological risk. However, being biased and not altering our mental processes could never allow us to learn. How important do you think altering the status quo is to become a good poker player? (changing the way we play, read our opponents, etc).

How important do you think our mind and its mechanisms are for a game involving limited information as is poker? If possible, explain why.

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Communication

Communicating is an essential part of the learning process. How important do you think knowing the poker lingo is for adapting to the activity and improving at it?

Paul Watzlawick mentions that ‘not communicating’ is impossible, meaning that not expressing something, even without words, cannot be achieved. Instead, he mentions that there is an analogical aspect apart from a digital one that refers to our body language, tone, and actions. How do you see this reflected at the poker table?

Since we communicate according to the way we play and the style of play we apply, our opponents must make a decision according to this limited information. However, bluffing is always a choice. Thus, how important do you think being able to manipulate what we want to transmit is?



THANKS AGAIN!
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06-07-2011 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Melkien
Hey guys, I'm currently developing a paper for one of my university classes, and we've decided to analyse poker communities, learning, playing, etc. I would REALLY! appreciate if you can answer any of these questions, maybe pick one of each section and answer. It doesn't have to be a long answer, a very short one if you have no time! But the more answers the better. Please help a poker buddy out , it would mean a lot to me, and I only expect a short answer. Plus, I know it can be annoying but I really need it for this subject. Even though some questions might seem of obvious answer, I need to know your opinions about it. By the way, sorry if any of them are badly written, I'm not from an english speaking country (Argentina), and it's 3 am here :P.

THANK YOU!!


QUESTIONS



Communities of practice

Do you feel part of a team when you participate in an online forum regarding poker, when there are people willing to learn?

No

Do you feel passionate about poker?

I enjoy, but not passionate.

Do you feel that you and your poker teammates (meaning other members of your community) share a specific goal they want to achieve, besides winning money? (such as learning, proving themselves what they are capable of, etc? If so, please share your view with us.

No. Poker is all about winning money and all specific goals lead to this or you would play with play money.
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Learning

How could you describe the importance of learning and studying in poker? Did they improve your game and the way you perceive things?


Very Important. Yes the way i play now is signifcantly different to when i started.

Do you perceive better results after learning, studying and acquiring knowledge?

If the stats back it up. Yes.

Some authors argue that well educated and successful people don’t like failing and admitting they don’t know certain things just because they are used to success. How important do you think admitting that you may be failing and need improvement and training is in poker?

This is important in general. If you don't improve and other do then you are almost going backwards.

Senge is an author that mentions that growth can be limited by a compensating cycle or limiting factor. Many people in the world of poker agree in that being willing to study, learn, train and review previous hands is crucial to eliminate this limiting factor. Do you agree, or do you think there is something more to it?

Yes. Look at the way other people would of played the same hand.
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Mental processes

Has studying and learning poker changed your mental processes in relation to poker, allowing you to play better, or do you think training by playing has done a better job at it?

Not really.

Maintaining the status quo is easy in the sense that it looking to change could make us suffer from psychological risk. However, being biased and not altering our mental processes could never allow us to learn. How important do you think altering the status quo is to become a good poker player? (changing the way we play, read our opponents, etc).

Depends on the situation.

How important do you think our mind and its mechanisms are for a game involving limited information as is poker? If possible, explain why.

Important, because otherwise there is no skill.

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Communication

Communicating is an essential part of the learning process. How important do you think knowing the poker lingo is for adapting to the activity and improving at it?

Not overly.

Paul Watzlawick mentions that ‘not communicating’ is impossible, meaning that not expressing something, even without words, cannot be achieved. Instead, he mentions that there is an analogical aspect apart from a digital one that refers to our body language, tone, and actions. How do you see this reflected at the poker table?

Tells.

Since we communicate according to the way we play and the style of play we apply, our opponents must make a decision according to this limited information. However, bluffing is always a choice. Thus, how important do you think being able to manipulate what we want to transmit is?

Obviously a large part of the game.

THANKS AGAIN!
Here you go.
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06-07-2011 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Melkien
QUESTIONS

Communities of practice

Do you feel part of a team when you participate in an online forum regarding poker, when there are people willing to learn?
No but I have friends who play the same games but I prob play harder against them then anyone else

Do you feel passionate about poker?
I didn't think I felt that passionate until the Gov't took it away, now I realize that playing is a right we all have and we should defend it

Do you feel that you and your poker teammates (meaning other members of your community) share a specific goal they want to achieve, besides winning money? (such as learning, proving themselves what they are capable of, etc? If so, please share your view with us.
We want to get better (maybe best) at whatever game we choose, also we want to crush the opponent (not for everyone but thats how I feel when playing my best)

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Learning

How could you describe the importance of learning and studying in poker? Did they improve your game and the way you perceive things?
Huge, if u aren't going foward u are going backwards (there is no static); Yes I def view concepts in a different light, more analytical then before poker (still think I am not as much compared to others tho)
Do you perceive better results after learning, studying and acquiring knowledge?
Of course, but u also need a place to test those things which experience can give

Some authors argue that well educated and successful people don’t like failing and admitting they don’t know certain things just because they are used to success. How important do you think admitting that you may be failing and need improvement and training is in poker?
I would argue that the most successful poker players are the most self critical, also having ppl to give u a 2nd opinion can't hurt

Senge is an author that mentions that growth can be limited by a compensating cycle or limiting factor. Many people in the world of poker agree in that being willing to study, learn, train and review previous hands is crucial to eliminate this limiting factor. Do you agree, or do you think there is something more to it?
I would argue against it since I think anyone willing to put in the time and energy can succeed, comes down to ones own determination

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Mental processes

Has studying and learning poker changed your mental processes in relation to poker, allowing you to play better, or do you think training by playing has done a better job at it?
I think I have changed how I think and approached the game, thinking again more analytical; I think the combination of study and playing allowed me to change my mindset and get the nec skills to play

Maintaining the status quo is easy in the sense that it looking to change could make us suffer from psychological risk. However, being biased and not altering our mental processes could never allow us to learn. How important do you think altering the status quo is to become a good poker player? (changing the way we play, read our opponents, etc).
I think u need variety esp in poker where the randomness can fool u into becoming static (thus decoying).
This is why the best players in the world usually ask someone else for their opinion (Dwan-Galfond)
How important do you think our mind and its mechanisms are for a game involving limited information as is poker? If possible, explain why.
I think our minds are fine but its the problem of the conditioning we have gotten since we were children, a lot of the things we learn go against how to think/play poker. But one limiting factor our brains have is that it tries to find patterns in the randomness so trying to find a pattern when u are on a downswing but playing solid poker is stupid since their is no pattern there just random bad luck
. Also not being to access all of our brain's power sucks too but what u going to do? Invent NZT? Please tell me when u do
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Communication

Communicating is an essential part of the learning process. How important do you think knowing the poker lingo is for adapting to the activity and improving at it?
Not super important but getting the general idea of the concept and understanding why and when to do it is probably most important

Paul Watzlawick mentions that ‘not communicating’ is impossible, meaning that not expressing something, even without words, cannot be achieved. Instead, he mentions that there is an analogical aspect apart from a digital one that refers to our body language, tone, and actions. How do you see this reflected at the poker table?
Guess I don't get this one since I mostly play online

Since we communicate according to the way we play and the style of play we apply, our opponents must make a decision according to this limited information. However, bluffing is always a choice. Thus, how important do you think being able to manipulate what we want to transmit is?
Guess it only matters against opponents who are observant, thinking ones but it is important if u are playing those types of players



THANKS AGAIN!

inb4 cool story bro
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06-07-2011 , 03:15 AM
I'll answer some.

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Originally Posted by Melkien

THANK YOU!!


QUESTIONS

Communities of practice

Do you feel part of a team when you participate in an online forum regarding poker, when there are people willing to learn? Not so much anymore, but when I was first learning the game, most definitely.

Do you feel passionate about poker? See above.

Do you feel that you and your poker teammates (meaning other members of your community) share a specific goal they want to achieve, besides winning money? (such as learning, proving themselves what they are capable of, etc? If so, please share your view with us. No, I think winning money is the only goal of most of the community, although there certainly are members who go beyond this.

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Learning

How could you describe the importance of learning and studying in poker? Did they improve your game and the way you perceive things? Studying never hurts, but after a certain point, I don't think it helps enough to be worth the time it takes...Eventually, not enough unique situations arise for you to study.

Do you perceive better results after learning, studying and acquiring knowledge? Yes. Some of this can be attributed directly to what you learn, and some can be attributed to being more focused (people willing to study will generally be more focused when they play, imo)

Some authors argue that well educated and successful people don’t like failing and admitting they don’t know certain things just because they are used to success. How important do you think admitting that you may be failing and need improvement and training is in poker? Very.

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Mental processes

Has studying and learning poker changed your mental processes in relation to poker, allowing you to play better, or do you think training by playing has done a better job at it? Training by playing has done a better job.

Maintaining the status quo is easy in the sense that it looking to change could make us suffer from psychological risk. However, being biased and not altering our mental processes could never allow us to learn. How important do you think altering the status quo is to become a good poker player? (changing the way we play, read our opponents, etc). To be truly good, it is essential. To win, it is not.

How important do you think our mind and its mechanisms are for a game involving limited information as is poker? If possible, explain why. Extremely. There is a limited amount of time to analyze situations. You assign/adjust ranges, consider each option you have (check/fold/call/raise), consider your opponents reaction to each choice, and assign/adjust their range based on that reaction. You must also do the fundamental things of remembering/interpreting the information that is revealed, as well as calculating odds. The faster you do these things, the more time you are allowed to think deeply about non-obvious situations, which in turn leads to better decision-making.

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Communication

Communicating is an essential part of the learning process. How important do you think knowing the poker lingo is for adapting to the activity and improving at it? I suppose it's pretty important to know what people are talking about when discussing poker strategy.


THANKS AGAIN!

Last edited by early325; 06-07-2011 at 03:22 AM.
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06-07-2011 , 01:49 PM
Thanks for the answers, guys! Really appreciated
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