The O8 is almost certainly being scammed, and most professionally at that. I looked at close to 1000 deals of 30-60 O8 and, while it would help to see what's getting thrown away, it's pretty obvious who is in on it. There are at least 6-8 accounts involved. It's usually 3-deep with the crossroaders playing effects of removal. I'm not going to go into the methodology of how I solved this, but frankly, the site operators should have algorithms in place so I don't have to figure this stuff out on my own.

I played them for a few weeks, and then gave up.

The PLO games, according to a friend of mine whose name you'd recognize, and plays generally PLO 5K/10K, are filthy dirty.

Neither of the above should surprise you.

It wouldn't surprise me also, if there was bot play involved by the site operators. It also wouldn't surprise me if the names of the owner(s) ever got outed, we'd recognize them (I have my guesses in the pool- think probably American citizen, former or current bookie, well known high stakes poker player, previously experienced in online cardroom ops-one name immediately comes to mind, and I hope it's not him, because I'd prefer to be wrong about this. And yes, this is a US-facing site, although the web hosting is offshore.)

I too have seen some amazing things on that site, but online is what it is. I sort of know what a rogue operator can do to you, but I think it's really risky to be putting money on a site which to my knowledge, isn't licensed anywhere.

If the site is legit, I got an unlucky result, and that's fine. I own it. I probably get what I deserve for playing on not only an unregulated site but an unlicensed one.

The problem is, if my WSOP and Kings Club results are really legit, I got at least a 1 in 1000 result, probably higher. At those numbers, it's fair to question if the result is legit. Down over 600BBs after 25k+ deals combined. In 10 years of professional B&M play, albeit in better games on average, I don't think I lost 200BB straight ever. This has happened 3 times over two sites.

I also never won playing anyone heads up, something like 0-12, and i'm known for being a h/u specialist lol. It was pretty amazing. I got dealt close to zero and the river card was pretty much tilted against me in O8.

There was a session playing PLO Big O/8 where six pots in a row, I caught the absolute worst card on the river. A card that not only counterfeited my low, but made oppo a 4 card hand at the same time. Prettty impressive, considering 3 of them were Aces. I offer no judgment about anything here except to officially think that was really unlucky, but that was the final straw for me.

Now...best game there seems to be the 8-16 9-handed LHE. Way too much speed on that game, play correctly and you should be fine. There may be some top hand going on at the higher limits. But, if there's bot play going on, it doesn't matter. .

It really sucks in 2020 that if you live in the Gambling Capital of The Universe (Vegas), your choices are WSOP (a shitty site by 2005 standards, which is run by 888 like it's an amenity), Kings Club and ACR. Great if you're a crossroader, a total sucker or play cheap. Not so great if you're a serious player.

Let me add this in closing...and this is about the $10-$20 O8 on WSOP. A well known card cheat was a friend of mine. I avoided his games like the plague, but unlike a lot of cheats, he was a very good player (hint: think $75-$150 games in SoCal). He actually wrote a manual on how to scam hi-lo split, both Omaha and Stud 8oB. How the WSOP game is being played ticks off a lot of boxes in his manual. My mistake was seeing the really juicy game and forgetting about the manual, but I had been away from this for 8 years now and even when I was playing, it was either h/u or tourney. I play poker for fun now; have much more profitable things going on in my life.

I would not recommend playing on this app as it clearly has superusers on there (and I mean the ones who can see the cards to come). I would also encourage people who know club owners to come forward and contract proper authorities, these people cheat everyone out of money and deserve to go to jail. These club owners and this site as a whole (since its exploitable by cheaters) need to be shut down

BIG CLAIMS. Any proof ? Any hand histories? Just because you lose doesnt mean youre being cheated. I know ppl who have played here for a long time and win, and def arent cheating. So what leads you to believe that you posted? If you cant produce anything then I think its bs for you to come here and make a statement like that with nothing to back it up.

Kings Club and WSOP have nothing to do with each other besides that theyre both online poker sites. WSOP is a regulated, licensed site. Kings Club is not. For this to happen on both a regulated site and kings club.... well....perhaps you arent the caliber of player you believe you are. Fwiw Kings Club has had their RNG certified, and im sure WSOP has as well.

After just getting off the phone with the primary owner of Kingsclubpkr.com, I guess I’m ok acknowledging that I work closely with the site, helping to inform the tables and stakes that are available, answering questions from my players, and setting up sub affiliates. Your money and your rakeback is guaranteed.

I’ve made sure to follow the instructions given to me via PM to make Kingsclubpkr.com a paid advertiser. The admins have been very helpful and patient in their guidance thus far. We are looking forward to and are appreciative of the opportunity.

The owner of kingsclubpkr.com is confused as to why someone is marketing Kingsclubpkr in the Pokerbros thread and asked me to find out who it is, which I’m probably not able to do, via 2p2. We are concerned that burying Kingsclubpkr in the middle of the post (I believe his club was booted from Pokerbros Diamond Union once) could be detrimental to our marketing strategy and would prefer to follow the guidelines outlined by the admins and create a dedicated thread w a site rep. That history doesn’t meet our standards, quite frankly.

As the only standalone club site of this size (over 1k players and 110+ players at peak times), we have hosted the famous Big Game at Bellagio; the King of Instagram Dan Bilzerian; the best damn poker podcaster around.

We have a certified RNG, offer more variants than any other site in the world ainec, VPNS are not allowed (and our tech team has capabilities to block them), and our rake is very low, compared to the apps.

Never has a payment been missed in 2.5 years and virtually every well-known US mix player is playing here. Our growth has been organic - starting with 150 players, to the 1100 at peak times today. We do not operate as a a group of assorted clubs, that could be here one day and gone the next, a la Pokerbros or PPP. That seems to confuse a lot of new online players.

We caught the Mizrachi crew trying to chip dump from an account they made w an agent they had no intentions of paying, to their own agency, and booted them. Chino and company now ply their trade on Pokerbros.

We are one site, multi accounting is not allowed, and up to 3 tables are able to be played mobile and 8 tables and we offer the widest range of stakes and variants anywhere online. Many big bet players have come to Kingsclubpkr, realizing that in order to play the biggest and best games at any given time, it certainly helps to learn the mix games.

And to SovietPlayer, or anyone encouraging people who know the owners to “contract the authorities” - I can say that despite knowing the owners, their names will never be spoken in public by me. And everyone who has known me from playing poker around the US and contributing to 2p2 for 7.5 years knows that to be true. Even if it is the Year of the Rat lol

We have a new option for home games that’s been a big success since COVID hit. Hopefully, everybody is being safe. Gl all

I am not talking about the site itself but about specific clubs that exist on there.

Sir, you might be mistaking this standalone site for another w a similar sounding name. This is not an app made up of a bunch of different clubs.

I hung out in limit holdem forums with macaubound for the better half of the past decade and nobody ever had anything bad to say about him and I never saw any reason for anyone to take offense to anything he did.

His poker ability is not really in question as in order to make it in the poker business, it's much harder if you suck at poker to make it. he's made a world series of poker final table. he's made back to back LAPC final tables.

I've never known him to conduct unethical business ever in my experience. Character issues are not a question and I consider him a friend.

Did he ever make it to Macau?

Lol no my friend, I have yet to make it to Macau - but I have been to Thailand and it’s a wonderful country w a lost of living and plenty of fun to be had. I do have 20 note bill given to me by a friend who did make it. Someday . . .

Started playing this site after a bit of time at poker bro’s and ppp etc and its by far the best one. Action is great 5/10 and up and the variants of different games are unparalleled anywhere else

Hello!
MacauBound wrote: “ We have a new option for home games that’s been a big success since COVID hit. ”

What does it mean? Kingsclub offer private tables such as home games?

ive been playing on this site since the beginning with no issues.

Sweet! That’s great to hear. I wouldn’t be surprised if more good news on this site was coming soon . . . .


I think that’s what it means. I believe there are options for home games w the specs a game runner would want (variants, stakes, rake, etc) at stakes from NL10/FL 2/4 and up to whatever the players can afford.

That’s great news. Always good to hear positive legit feedback from any players who have had a good experience on a particular site. Especially from long time members of the forum. I have high hopes for the site to continue to improve the user experience. Maybe I’m biased bc I’m winner for the month - the competition is obv super tough hehe

Slight derail - If I was considering playing on any site, I’d definitely take into account what my peers were saying. I’d be looking for positive feedback, but I’d probably be looking for NEGATIVE feedback even more. Especially when it comes to unregulated sites, this is prob amplified.

On that note, you’re all invited to my pool party on Fathers Day! It’s a small pool but I bet we could cram a few dozen adults in there lol. /derail

Hoping everybody has a safe and fun week out there!

Sooo how to join this site? Does it only allow US players or is it international?

Edit: nevermind, I just learned of a fantastic internet tool called a "search engine."

Works internationally w/o much restrictions

As agent or player I’ve had and heard every possible gripe with Kingsclub . So how is this rigged and how does that help the site? Firstly collusion. Collusion has occurred not the doing of the site but a risk of playing online poker. If you’re looking at a file of hand histories it easy to see. The remedy: the colludes were penalized their gains kicked off the site and money given to the victims. Super user? When looking at a tremendous number of files again it would be very easy to detect players who know another players cards or what’s to come . To date none have ever been discovered. A copy of the files was made available to all suspicious players. If any of my players has a beef they send me hand number or block of hands. It is investigated and a copy given to the player. We want everyone to feel satisfied. The bottom line is the players on kings club are amongst the best in the world . Many players haven’t adjusted to online poker or themselves are delusional about their poker skills. Poker players I must say generally are babies. They look to blame and make excuses. Most of you should look inwardly. As a player things have been very good I don’t want to brag. I endorse this site 100%

Please note that a rep for KingsClubPkr has started their official thread at https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...hread-1773266/.