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07-22-2011 , 04:47 PM
Shouldn't the rake be lowered a little since everything is faster now?

Edit: Very easy to do now too
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07-22-2011 , 06:57 PM
The fast Allin dealing sucks big time - takes away a lot of the fun.
The other changes are fine.
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07-22-2011 , 10:18 PM
It does seem a little fast. But I think it will be fine once I get used to it
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07-23-2011 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by andyhop
New propbet coming?

maybe something for fun when I start playing again, curious to see what the hands/hr are up to now for 24/fast tablers
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07-23-2011 , 04:12 AM
did they start shipping the pot faster?

It really seemed like it today, but it might have been only because I was paying a little attention
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07-23-2011 , 09:10 AM
the time saved by the fast allin animation have minimal effect on hnds/hr unless you are multitabling many games. as someone said earlier if they went that fast on tv who would watch?

hands per hour shouldn't be the overriding factor- many people want to enjoy the games and the tension of allin situations. sacrificing that for the sake of an extra hand per hour is a weird decision. it just gives the impression that the site's only interest is getting as much rake out of players as quickly as possible.
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07-23-2011 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Quasar
the time saved by the fast allin animation have minimal effect on hnds/hr unless you are multitabling many games. as someone said earlier if they went that fast on tv who would watch?

hands per hour shouldn't be the overriding factor- many people want to enjoy the games and the tension of allin situations. sacrificing that for the sake of an extra hand per hour is a weird decision. it just gives the impression that the site's only interest is getting as much rake out of players as quickly as possible.
I thought the idea behind the fast all in deal was to give the players in hypers a few more hands in between the small blind levels.

If someone can tell me the point of it in regular husng or even MTTs that last for hours on end I'm all ears. Just seems to me they're sucking the fun out of it for casuals to please the grinders.
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07-23-2011 , 11:50 AM
No chance to shout '3,4,6 any diamond', or 'no spade, no spade' or 'PAIR THE GODDAM MUTHAFCKIN BOARD' at the turn and river.

More hands in any timeframe is always good, I realise that.
But a little bit of the soul of the game has been taken away.
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07-23-2011 , 12:55 PM
man sick update, wish i could play on stars though: <
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07-23-2011 , 01:00 PM
I love the speed upgrade so far.
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07-23-2011 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdurdenptp
i may have done the math wrong here. But isn't this a large increase in hands/hour for massive grinders? Esp at cap

I will use myself as an example. FR NL 24 tabling average 1500 hands/hour.

Taking 1 second away per hand on average would be 1500 seconds, 25 minutes.

I average playing 25 hands/minute. So I would see an increase of 625 hands/hour. OR am I just punting the math all over the place here?

Even cut that in half and say .5 seconds/hand or 312 hands/hour, this would increase my vpp rate by 150vpps/hour. I think i must be doing something totally wrong here in my math though. Seems far too good to be true.
At ~60 secs per hand, if each hand was to then take 1 second less...
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07-23-2011 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by npknhldr
why such a drastic change (20+% decrease) in the most time-sensitive game?

All the changes are great, but why lower the hyperturbos from 16-12secs? 4sec decrease is much larger than the changes you made to other game formats, and really costs regulars about 20-25% of their volume/hour.
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Originally Posted by Courier83
Well lets say you are used to comfortably 15tabling and now you have less time for each decision as everything is faster so you have to lower to 13-14tabling to retain the same comfort during game...
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Originally Posted by WAtR
Surely you will have an increase in your volume per hour if the games are finishing quicker than before?
Again, SPECIFICALLY for hyperturbo regs, who have to adjust to all the same changes that all players have (quicker lag times, allins go instantly, etc) but who additionally have to deal with 25% less time per decision.

Just looking at my own data, I used to play over 1500 hnds/hour, now i'm around 1350. (went from 18-24tabling to 12-16 tabling).

I'm sold on improving the software across the board, but it seems rather arbitrary that these games (hypers) have been specifically targeted to have the most dramatic changes made to them for reasons that are as yet unclear. And whatever reason could be given, could surely be used for any game type; not just hypers.
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07-24-2011 , 08:35 PM
playing regular speed tourney ..this change is terrible.

-1 from me. stop this pls.
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07-24-2011 , 11:02 PM
I am loving the changes so far. The faster all-ins make the process of getting runner runner-ed much less painful, and I don't time out on my other tables while praying for my hand to hold anymore.

Also I don't think this is necessarily going to be seen as bad to casual players either. The first thing my fish friend said when he moved to PS after FT went down was that the turn and river are dealt way too slow, and I remember thinking the same thing when I made the move a year or so ago as well.
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07-25-2011 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Larmar

Also I don't think this is necessarily going to be seen as bad to casual players either. The first thing my fish friend said when he moved to PS after FT went down was that the turn and river are dealt way too slow, and I remember thinking the same thing when I made the move a year or so ago as well.
If I recall, Party Poker back in the day had lightning-fast cards dealt in all-in situations. Fish had NO problem with it then.

The problem with this thread is that everyone forms an opinion and then argues it "fish hate fast showdowns!".. "fish love fast showdowns!!".. but there's no real proof for either, other than people who say "I asked some fish!" and are probably making up the answers to reinforce their side of the argument.
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07-25-2011 , 02:04 AM
Love the change. Getting two outed is suddenly not that big of a deal.
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07-25-2011 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by WutRUTryin2Hit
If I recall, Party Poker back in the day had lightning-fast cards dealt in all-in situations. Fish had NO problem with it then.

The problem with this thread is that everyone forms an opinion and then argues it "fish hate fast showdowns!".. "fish love fast showdowns!!".. but there's no real proof for either, other than people who say "I asked some fish!" and are probably making up the answers to reinforce their side of the argument.
My gf is a typical fish ,she played something like one month she can play 2 or 3 Full ring tables at best and think that pokerstars software is insanely slow after starting on ftp.
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07-25-2011 , 08:13 AM
Great update. Most days I hear a fish complaining that the game is too slow and every so often they quit because of it. The bad-slow players are one tabling so they shouldn't have a problem with the speed.
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07-25-2011 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by HardcoreGamer
If someone can tell me the point of it in regular husng or even MTTs that last for hours on end I'm all ears. Just seems to me they're sucking the fun out of it for casuals to please the grinders.
I don't think your average +8 non-hyper tabling grinder notices much this changes one way or the other, and the hands/hr improvement is minimal.

Also, your ideea for "casuals fun" might be wrong, because casuals love a lot of action (just think about how many fish rush poker attracted). Not to mention ex-FTP players(casuals and regulars) coming to Stars were like world class chefs forced to eat dog****(softwere-wise) , all love this change mainly because the flow of play is smoother.
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07-25-2011 , 10:24 AM
Some players love it, some players hate it - I don't give a sh*t TBH ...

But maybe it would make sense to make it similar to the "Show Hole Cards When All-In" feature. If all involved players agree, deal the Board faster. If not, deal the Board as it was before or maybe just 1.5x faster ...
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07-25-2011 , 11:19 AM
reverse it imo!
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07-25-2011 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SGGrinder
1) Please speed up first 3 cards dealing on flop too
2) Make all tables "(fast)". No more normal speed tables.. please
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Originally Posted by mrdurdenptp
deal cards faster, push pot faster.
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Originally Posted by blackf1re
please force everyone to show their holecards when all the money goes in instead of waiting until after the river.
+1
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07-25-2011 , 12:31 PM
Turbos going to bubble w/ 20 big blind average stack. Not cool. Should reverse this stuff or make the levels faster too.
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07-25-2011 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bojahc
Turbos going to bubble w/ 20 big blind average stack. Not cool. Should reverse this stuff or make the levels faster too.
Aww poor baby.
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07-25-2011 , 09:49 PM
thanks!! can we have another limit for hyper turbos
currently it goes from 1.50 - 7 - 33? can we have a 3.50?? limit and some others.
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