1) Please speed up first 3 cards dealing on flop too
2) Make all tables "(fast)". No more normal speed tables.. please

Turbo Sit&Gos are finishing 3% to 5% faster.
Hyper Sit&Gos are finishing 15% faster.

Players are not getting fewer hands per sit&go as a result.

I really urge you to reconsider maybe change the turbos back a little bit. I mean im fine with it but my dad plays 6$ sngs for fun sometimes and he has a hard time folowwoing the action as it was, now its over before he realizes what cards he needed to get

I dont think fish like this turboallin style.

i think the changes are great and find it hard to believe that basically any players will be unable to function properly because of a slight increase of all in showdown and dealing speeds.

your reasoning is flawed, the allins will go faster, more hands will be played, thus tournies as a whole should end a little quicker, whether you load more/play more is up to you... why would you autoplay less sngs because the speed is quicker...


good to hear, thanks for the update steve...


i agree this could be a bad drawback to the change, recreational players like the sweat obviously... i guess they always have the instant replay though?

why such a drastic change (20+% decrease) in the most time-sensitive game?

All the changes are great, but why lower the hyperturbos from 16-12secs? 4sec decrease is much larger than the changes you made to other game formats, and really costs regulars about 20-25% of their volume/hour.

Well lets say you are used to comfortably 15tabling and now you have less time for each decision as everything is faster so you have to lower to 13-14tabling to retain the same comfort during game...

Surely you will have an increase in your volume per hour if the games are finishing quicker than before?

Nice

Excellent update sir! I think this is a case of whinge and win for SNG players.

+1
Recreational players would stop playing sngs if it remain that fast.

This is the first time I see an official Stars rep publicly announce statistics the site has gathered. I like that, Even though I don't play SNGs.

Would you also be willing to give hands/h stats for the various formats of ring game tables Stars offers?

deal cards faster, push pot faster. Fish will get used to it, they are one tabling

Yes. Maybe they will even like it when they don't have to type "ZzZzZ zZ hurry up guys" in the chat?

I love it when someone is Disconnected and half the table goes ballistic. As if they really don't know what the word means, and think the software is broken or the player sleeping... lol.

The endless zzzzzzzzzzz is annoying too. Sure someone will play faster if you kill your Z key. I'm sure they care.

I don't like the changes in SNGs for a few reasons:

1) I can't keep up with the faster pace. I've already cut down the number of tables but I'm still feeling exhausted and having to make hasty decisions.

I'm not sure why other people don't have this problem. If you could play e.g. 2000 hands/hour before, how can you now play more? Either you have to play less tables now or you were playing too few before.

I admit this may not be a problem to people who play continuously.

2) Less time to see what people are calling/shoving with.

3) I'm worried about how the fast all-ins affect recreational players.

As a result of these changes I'm having to play less games and based on what I've seen so far I don't expect my $/game to improve.

Could you please post such numbers for PLO and NLHE ring games? What is the increase in hands/hour in percentages? I definitely notice an improvement in the PLO games by something in the range of 5-8%.

I agree

Rather make all other unimportant stuff instantly.
For example the time between a pot is given to player and dealing the next hand could be as small as possible. Another speedup could be that sidepot and mainpot is given at the same time and not one after another. For that case recreational players really could use the replayer if curious.
Reconsider the Fulltilt "i'm ready button" as well.
A lot of stuff could be used to reduce time, but the allin sweat should remain at the old speed.
Recreational players get excited, so they get an adrenalin rush, that rush is what brings them back to the next game.

Cheers

It's possible to get 50% more hands per hour as I have seen UB deal even over 300 hands per hour in a limit holdem heads up game when other sites are dealing just some 200 hands. Though the players need to play fast too, to take the possibility of 50% more hands dealt per hour.

Personally, I just two-table and it would make a big difference to me the day ring games deal up to 50% more hands per hour in cases where the players play top fast. Adding some heads up and hitting over 300 hands per hour is nice too.

But if the decision times will start to drop, I won't be able to make the best decisions; it's best to have enough time and additionally it would be best to have a time bank that one can use some of the time.

Playing limit poker fast is just fine, but that's about it, while PS is not going to start to make their software anti-multitabling, but in case they would and tailor the games just perfect for me, that could speed my game up to 50%, just not sure it isn't too fast for me other than when it's limit poker as I remember from my UB times many years ago that I couldn't play 3 or 4 tables even limit poker there shorthanded, that I used to do e.g. at PS., and that's one of the reasons why I got fixed at two tables, though I still consider it just fine for a hobby player.

50% more hands per hour would be fine but not if the decisions get worse. Playing one more table has 50% more players for one to observe and is sure not the better way if one can handle the increased speed at two tables. But to be safe, I rather play 50% less hands and get my time.

I don't think so. It could be frustrating for them if after All-ins cards are dealt so fast. They don't know if they're good on turn or how many outs they have etc. Also no pause between dealing flop/turn/river means no fun. I doubt anyone would watch poker show on TV if it was so fast.

have you tried it out?

there is still a pause, a decent one actually.

To sum up. Games on stars where extreamly long in terms of card animation. It doesnt matter if you turn it off. It still takes same amount of time to drag pot, to deal cards etc. People used to this speed but they will get used to faster action to. Preaty much any site has faster card animation and nobody complains. Played only one day and i can say there is no problem to analyse all ins even when cards are dealt faster. Just matter of time to adapt. Dont get few things:

- Why card animations speed differs in hyperturbos vs. turbos or lets say hu sng vs. mtt (preaty sure it has to be same for players to get used).

- What point does long card daling or pot draging animation has? I mean even on TV nobody likes to see card dealing or chips staking. Its just slows down action. So what is the point for slow 2BB pot draging to winner after every fold online? I mean no sweat here, no emotions, totaly no point. Just waist of time and money.

If this would be fixed it would be great. Frankly, when tryed to play hu hypertubo sngs almost didnt noticed any difference. Smooth action as usual. When returned to turbos started seeing how long some compleatly pointless action takes. Specialy when all in cards dealt way faster it creates constrast to the rest card animation speed. Prety sure it will be fixed becouse more action means mo rake fo PS.

P.S. For multitabling guys - 90% of your time is taken not by card animation, but by timing down oponnents, your own tuff decisions etc. I mean totaly no point to say i cant multitable as much as before, becouse cards are dealt to fast. If you think so it only shows you are one of those action stopping guys who simple play max tables they can hande using mx time they have. Those players are 90% reason why actions on cash tables can be so slow sometimes.

Dear Stars

Thank you for still existing for Australian players. Please inform us well in advance if this is going to change

Also, ty for taking away my doomswitch on black friday, the games are way easier without american regs

Keep up the good work and whatnot

Also, more PLO tournaments please. A 30r similar to the one on tilt at 1730 server time back in the day would be nice (or say a 75 freezeout something around that level)

I think there has to be SOME animation, it's sort of ceremonial, would feel weird if it wasn't there. It'd be like if you went to see a stripper and she just walked onstage naked or something. However, you're right, animation/dealing/etc was way too slow on stars till now.

Your second point is very good imo.

I play a ton of tables, and I've got in a few sessions with the new speeds and I love it. Isn't tough at all.

I thought about whether fish would be annoyed, but I really don't think so. The 1-tablers will do fine with this, and even if maybe it's a bit fast, you have to also remember fish love action and not being bored. If they don't have to wait so much between playing hands, they'll have more fun, etc.

Very good improvement Pokerstars.