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07-20-2011 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by demetri1978
WOW,I like it ,seems bit crazy a first ,but great change!

Higher Hypers ASAP pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaase
yes, this
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07-20-2011 , 08:48 PM
As an aside to this (which I have no real evidence for of course) I've played about 25 SNGs since this change, and the speed at which the cards are dealt seems to have a real impact on the looseness of the games and the speed at which hands are played.

I've noticed a lot more players in the > 60-70vp/20-40pfr range, and almost double the all-ins as well as looser calls all around. 25 games is of course a tiny sample, however I'd be interested in people's thoughts on this - whether the speed of the dealing/showdown impacts decisions by players that don't normally take the time to think of how they are playing or not? And whether this is a good thing?
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07-20-2011 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WhatDoesCallMean
So no more building suspense before the 2 outer hits on the river?
I don't need the suspense when I already know that their 2-outers are going to hit 100% of the time
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07-20-2011 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve
Players register for tournaments and leave their computer to go grab a drink or do something else. It's important to give them time to come back and play their first hand.

Tournaments that reliably fill quite quickly have no such issues as it's unreasonable to register and walk away from your computer. This is the criterion that was used to determine whether or not to have the extra time added: how frequently the sit&gos start.

No tournaments with 45+ players were altered to start more quickly at this time. We'll consider making some more changes in the future based on player feedback.
Okayyyy, but, well, turbo 180s at peak time, with the exception of 35s, are going off every two or three minutes. If someone registers when there are already 165 people in it, then bimbles off to the kitchen to make themselves a brew, then quite frankly they're a muppet if they get back to find it has already started without them.

For the smaller stakes 45mans, they go off even faster, every minute or so, and I'd say it's pretty unreasonable to complain about missing hands, if you go AFK after regging one of those.

If you made it time sensitive, ie faster at peak time, for turbo 180s at $15 and lower (not the 3.50 rebuy), and also for 45mans at $7 and lower, then that would be pretty awesome. Then switch it back to the current delay at off-peak, when people can more reasonable be expected to wander AFK while waiting for it to fill.


TT
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07-20-2011 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamTrousers
Okayyyy, but, well, turbo 180s at peak time, with the exception of 35s, are going off every two or three minutes. If someone registers when there are already 165 people in it, then bimbles off to the kitchen to make themselves a brew, then quite frankly they're a muppet if they get back to find it has already started without them.

For the smaller stakes 45mans, they go off even faster, every minute or so, and I'd say it's pretty unreasonable to complain about missing hands, if you go AFK after regging one of those.

If you made it time sensitive, ie faster at peak time, for turbo 180s at $15 and lower (not the 3.50 rebuy), and also for 45mans at $7 and lower, then that would be pretty awesome. Then switch it back to the current delay at off-peak, when people can more reasonable be expected to wander AFK while waiting for it to fill.


TT
This is a pretty stupid and confusing ID for fish
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07-20-2011 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
This is a pretty stupid and confusing ID for fish
lol. What about sending a reminder to their email 5 minutes before the start like they do on party poker. I don't think most people (regs and fish alike) would notice.
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07-20-2011 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve
Players register for tournaments and leave their computer to go grab a drink or do something else. It's important to give them time to come back and play their first hand.

Tournaments that reliably fill quite quickly have no such issues as it's unreasonable to register and walk away from your computer. This is the criterion that was used to determine whether or not to have the extra time added: how frequently the sit&gos start.

No tournaments with 45+ players were altered to start more quickly at this time. We'll consider making some more changes in the future based on player feedback.
At peak times the sub $15 45/180's fill at slowest every 5 minutes. I know this because that is what I have table ninja set to, check for a new tourney at 5 min intervals.

This is not long for anyone to wait, I would be surprised if the nipping to make a drink issue is a big one for anybody.

Btw love the new dealing speed.
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07-20-2011 , 10:15 PM
Only took u 4yrs+, congrats Stars
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07-20-2011 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by IamPro
Only took u 4yrs+, congrats Stars
LOL. Yeah. When they get less hands per hour, then they do something about it.
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07-20-2011 , 11:11 PM
So how many more hands per hour per table for 6 max cash?
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07-20-2011 , 11:41 PM
I used to play 20+ tables of hypers, but now I'm timing out with even 16tables going.

Pretty sure this will actually lower the # of games/hour for hyperturbo sng players, as well as quicken the burnout per session (since action is super-intense speed-wise).

Was this intended? Fine if it was, since I know casual players hate waiting 16secs each time it's a reg's turn to act.

although the quicker comm. cards dealt is a decent modification for all, the hyper-turbo changes are super-drastic and greatly affect the small number of regs who play them. If the games are meant to go quicker, perhaps the starting stacks / structure should be reconsidered to make for push/fold decisions sooner, i.e. get rid of level one 10/20/2 in cash-hypers.
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07-21-2011 , 12:40 AM
I love it. I can play more volume than before. really nice

but pause before river is still.. which I hate
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07-21-2011 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Silent_0ne
I agree with this. recreational players being happy is what keeps me happy. if cards are dealt twice as fast, the sweat of the cards is only half as fun. recreational players will not like this change so i do not either.
I've played at stars solidly for the last 9 months but I don't multi-table. I enjoyed playing tournaments with the previous speed of the all-ins. It used to be exciting digesting the situation and seeing the cards. Now it's just grating me not knowing what happened. I hate the faster speed and am now looking for somewhere else to play.
I have emailed pokerstars and told them I'm now looking for somewhere else to play, which I am.
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07-21-2011 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by zerochill
Agreed, for sngs anyhow. Even without any equity analysis, it's nice to at least be able to figure out what card you need to hit to win. I imagine recreational players would especially miss this, as there's basically no sweat anymore.

Somewhere between the old and new speeds would be perfect imo.
if iam on autopilot i see all my winning cards in 0.001 sec, i do not need one second.
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07-21-2011 , 04:26 AM
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wow 15 posts sinds 2002 thats almost 1.5 per year. you must be a turtle.
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07-21-2011 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Spikey
I've played at stars solidly for the last 9 months but I don't multi-table. I enjoyed playing tournaments with the previous speed of the all-ins. It used to be exciting digesting the situation and seeing the cards. Now it's just grating me not knowing what happened. I hate the faster speed and am now looking for somewhere else to play.
I have emailed pokerstars and told them I'm now looking for somewhere else to play, which I am.
Digesting information after all in is just matter of psychology. You have no influence over action anymore and if you want to see it in slow motion just use last hand function PS offers. Its like in sports.

But think how much all ins there are during tournament and how much time is saved after this change. It simply means you are getting more hands to play. It cant be bad.

Like many said, this change had to be made long time ago. PS was one of the slowest site in regards of card animation. Dont think you will find such slow speed anyware else so no point in changing sites just for it.

Dont understand why you made goos changes only for hyperturbos??? Make it to all hu sngs for sure. Now its kinda tilting to play hyperturbos and then go to play reg speed not only becouse structure is slower, but card animation to. Its almost unfair to reg speed and turbo hu sngs. Make card animation speed same as hyperturbos in all hu sngs and probably all sngs generaly. People will use to it fast and majority dont want to see 1,5BB pot draged 2 sec. after every fold preflop. What point in that?
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07-21-2011 , 05:36 AM
no idea if this is a good idea or not. penalty for timing out should have a much greater effect i guess.

time out on one table ..get seconds minus X on all other tables for the next move.
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07-21-2011 , 05:41 AM
Changes are great, but we need more.

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Cards dealt after all action is complete due to players being all-in are now dealt twice as fast.
I think you can speed this up a little bit more for the PLO ring games. There are much more all-in situations at the PLO tables compared to NLHE and it'll have a great impact on hands/hour, which currently sucks for PLO and needs a vast improvement.

Also, I'm in for reduced time to act.
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07-21-2011 , 06:43 AM
tested it all day, and I saw an increase of about 50-100 hands/hour on average.

BTW, never noticed the slowness of them pushing the pot before since I play so many tables.

WOW, it is laughable. They really need to ship that pot faster. It seems like the software is glitching or something. Just send the pot and move on, i pushed pots faster than that when I used to deal poker.
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07-21-2011 , 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mitch Evans
LOL. Yeah. When they get less hands per hour, then they do something about it.
This, but yeah luvin it, finally Stars is tolerable, cheers Steve!
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07-21-2011 , 07:05 AM
i think you could furthur increase the speed at which the game is dealt in ring games, software is still absurdly slow in comparison to Full Tilt(RIP)
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07-21-2011 , 07:21 AM
Changes are great, this was definately a softwere upgrade that makes me want to stay on Stars even after/if FTP re-opens.

About the reduced time to act on hypers I can't realy give an opinion since I don't play them, but the rest of the speed tweeks are gold.

There's just one annoying speed-related thing left in PS softwere that I can't realy get over: The absurdly long delay between the hands when blinds change.
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07-21-2011 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky999
i think you could furthur increase the speed at which the game is dealt in ring games, software is still absurdly slow in comparison to Full Tilt(RIP)
Which specific element of dealing speed appears slow to you?

Do you have
Options -> Table Display Options -> Animation
unchecked?
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07-21-2011 , 07:30 AM
i hate the change in showdown speed. there's just no time to take in the implications of the flop and turn now which is all part of the enjoyment of the game.

seems to me stars may as well do away with the animation for dealing the board cards in an allin situation altogether and just shove the chips to the winner. if anyone is interested in what the cards were they can use the hand history
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07-21-2011 , 07:57 AM
Tell you what, the board coming down fast is doing wonders for my tilt. Seems alot less brutal getting bad beat all the time because you haven't got horrible lingering pauses before turn and then that random glitch as the river card comes to land it used to pause for a nano second before revealing it's disgusting self and that alone was enough to have me raging! I'm alot calmer this way so well done PS.
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