PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs? - Internet Poker

He sits at 24(sitting out on most) €NL10 FR tables and shoving every hand preflop vs 3J55. When he has won a couple of stacks he leaves, then dumps it back to 3J55.

Is this allowed, I mean since he is a representant of PokerStars and maybe benefits from raking a lot?

Also they seem to sit out if other players sit in.

Last edited by JimmyRare; 07-14-2010 at 02:44 PM.

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07-14-2010 , 02:39 PM

deanshmerk

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Yeah that sounds like the perfect plan to rack up the VPPs lollll wtf is wrong with you?

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07-14-2010 , 02:41 PM

1p0kerboy

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Originally Posted by deanshmerk

Yeah that sounds like the perfect plan to rack up the VPPs lollll wtf is wrong with you?

Chiren80 is a 'Team Online Pro' member and receives >100% rakeback.

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07-14-2010 , 02:42 PM

JimmyRare

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Originally Posted by deanshmerk

Yeah that sounds like the perfect plan to rack up the VPPs lollll wtf is wrong with you?

well, since micro mania gives 12,5 VPP/€1 rake and they go allin on 4+ tables, it's a very fast way to get vpps.
and ofc 100%+ rb...
what is wrong with you?

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07-14-2010 , 02:58 PM

TheTruthSpeaks

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Wow, he can't be this stupid could he?

According to PTR hes been doing this for days

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07-14-2010 , 03:04 PM

JimmyRare

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07-14-2010 , 03:15 PM

Carl Sagan

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what a tard....he better hope they don't pull the plug on him for these 'nanigans.

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07-14-2010 , 03:15 PM

IamPro

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hmmm

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07-14-2010 , 03:18 PM

JimmyRare

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Since they go allin every hand or bet half stack and fold they should get 500+ hands/hour.
Each hand rakes 25c from each player.
25c = 3,125 VPP.
500*3,125 = 1562,5 VPP/h at least

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07-14-2010 , 03:18 PM

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Yanksman2009

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Hope someone has pointed one of the PS reps to this thread

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07-14-2010 , 03:21 PM

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Mrage

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Well, if anyone had any doubt as to whether he was a total moron, at least that's cleared up.

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07-14-2010 , 03:26 PM

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bentonja

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is it possible he is getting the axe and knows it?

otherwise this makes no sense

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07-14-2010 , 03:29 PM

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Yanksman2009

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Originally Posted by bentonja

is it possible he is getting the axe and knows it?

otherwise this makes no sense

doubt it, cause isnt chip dumping grounds for accoutn banning and seizing of funds?

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07-14-2010 , 03:33 PM

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IamPro

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is it chip dumping if they both agree to shove pre but have no relation to each other?

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07-14-2010 , 03:39 PM

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shipontilt

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are they both just going AIPF? are they just flipping?

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07-14-2010 , 03:41 PM

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JimmyRare

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Originally Posted by shipontilt

are they both just going AIPF? are they just flipping?

No, as I tried to show in some of my pics half of the hands one of them raises pre for like 50bbs and other guy calls, just to c/f flop. I even saw Chiren fold in a 400bb pot with like 20bbs left. They are just chipping it back and forth to generate rake.

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07-14-2010 , 03:41 PM

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DoubleFly

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Lol. Altho net, PS still makes money, since the other guy has to pay rake.

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07-14-2010 , 03:42 PM

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wapgum

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please ban this guy never liked him

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07-14-2010 , 03:43 PM

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JimmyRare

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

Lol. Altho net, PS still makes money, since the other guy has to pay rake.

Chiren probably dumps a bit so that his friend get even at least, don't you think?

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07-14-2010 , 03:44 PM

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_Towelie_

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can it really be called dumping if they're just flipping for ****s n giggles?

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07-14-2010 , 03:44 PM

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JimmyRare

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Originally Posted by _Towelie_

can it really be called dumping if they're just flipping for ****s n giggles?

They are not flipping.

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07-14-2010 , 03:45 PM

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anglefish

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This looks more like collusion than chip dumping.

So, don't expect ps to act for at least 6 months.

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07-14-2010 , 03:48 PM

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JimmyRare

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I have now PMd Chiren about this thread so he at least has a chance of defending himself.

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07-14-2010 , 03:49 PM

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blankoblanco

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what the hell, how could he be this stupid?

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07-14-2010 , 03:49 PM

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apefish

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can't be anything wrong. neither appears to be from wenzhou.

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