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03-06-2009 , 08:59 PM

Outdraw Picasso

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 413

I never played online poker back in the "poker boom" days, but just by curiousity I was wondering what the comparison to players then to now is. I know stars can peak at 190k, and fulltilt at 100k, but I was wondering if these numbers were relatively low compared to back in the day, especially party poker. Thanks.

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03-06-2009 , 09:15 PM

Backspin20

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,856

One Milllyon

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03-07-2009 , 12:51 AM

Webster

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,960

I've been playing online since 1999 and the numbers for Full Tilt are much higher - same with Poker Stars.

The BIG difference is that the play is WAY WAY tougher.

Stars was always hard but most sites you could find many games with 40-50% flop rates.

There were times you could play $10/20 limit in 60% flops and 2/4 45% was the norm.

Plus - no more free money - I was making $3000 a year not even trying with bonuses.

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03-07-2009 , 01:15 AM

batair

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 16,802

The number of players on tilt and stars is higher now because most of the U.S. players are concentrated their. I'm not sure if the total number players online is higher though. Players are better today by far.

I miss Pacific Pokers $17 avg .25nl rooms and 60% per flop all the way to the top. And those were the crappy tables.

Last edited by batair; 03-07-2009 at 01:36 AM.

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03-07-2009 , 01:20 AM

otter

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Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,477

Ah yes. I remember fondly the good ole planet poker and paradise poker days. At my first job out of college I used to play during work

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03-07-2009 , 02:11 AM

Fermion5

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 8,381

# of players is definitely higher today.

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03-07-2009 , 02:17 AM

blindsRobber

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,011

in mid 2005, Party was the biggest site around followed closesly PS. I remember Party having 75 to 80K users logged on in peak hours of the weekend. Stars hovered around the 65K mark. now that stars is the biggest site around, they easily surpass the 200k mark in peak hours. i saw 235k on PS the day they were breaking the Guiness world record.

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03-07-2009 , 02:42 AM

Tofu_boy

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 911

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Originally Posted by blindsRobber

depend on how they count it though. If you play 9 tables count as 9 people then number much higher just because of people play 12 or 16 tables nowaday.
Backthen the most you can play was 4 table on party, and not too many people can do so. Now very much evenone can do 4 tables and up same time.

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03-07-2009 , 03:00 AM

pairtheboard69

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,520

numbers are vastly higher now than in 2004. stars peaks at 270k now on weekends.

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03-07-2009 , 03:16 AM

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otter

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Originally Posted by Tofu_boy

interesting point

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03-07-2009 , 03:19 AM

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MicroBob

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I remember sometime in summer of 2003 I think when people thought it was amazing when Party peaked at 15k or something.

I started around Jan of 2003 and thought it was amazing on Stars when they would peak over 2k on weekends. "Isn't this incredible?!?! 2k people on the same site at the same time!!!" Seriously. I would be somewhat disappointed when they would dip under 1k on late weeknights.

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03-07-2009 , 07:06 AM

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lastout

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 129

stars has very good strategy over last year.

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03-07-2009 , 07:16 AM

#13

Rek

HUZA 2008

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,033

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Originally Posted by MicroBob

I started around Jan of 2003 and thought it was amazing on Stars when they would peak over 2k on weekends. "Isn't this incredible?!?! 2k people on the same site at the same time!!!"

I think WSEX still think it's incredible.

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03-07-2009 , 07:16 AM

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fraxion

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 38

The amount of players have increased from 2007 to 2008 at least,

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The worldwide online poker market continues to grow, albeit at a more moderate pace than in recent years. Total cash game traffic is estimated to have increased more than 14% in the past year.

http://www.pokerscout.com/news/weekl...ar=2009&week=2

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03-07-2009 , 10:00 AM

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jukofyork

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Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

Bums on seats != # of players.

Waaaaay more multitablers than there were before, so 80k players back in the days of 4-table max Party is likely to be alot more than 200k players in the days of 24-tabling Stars.

Juk

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03-07-2009 , 10:03 AM

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BK1248

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Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,773

i remember if paradise went over 6-7k players the site would be lagging and freezing and all, maybe 2005+

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03-07-2009 , 11:30 AM

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blindsRobber

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,011

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Originally Posted by Tofu_boy

below is what pokerstars had to say about this. so it appears that the no. of players online might have trippled over the past 4 years or so

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Hello,

Thank you for contacting us.

When the lobby states that there are 150,000 players then these are single players, e.g. accounts logged in at that time. These are Real and Play money accounts. As such, one player playing on, let's say ten tables, will count as one.

Thank you for choosing PokerStars and please contact us again if we can
assist you again. We are here for you 24 hours a day and 7 days a week.

Regards,

Mitch
PokerStars Support Team

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03-07-2009 , 11:32 AM

#18

Uglyowl

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Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,384

I miss blackjack bonuses

Those were the days

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03-07-2009 , 11:46 AM

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Webster

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Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,960

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I miss blackjack bonuses Those were the days

don't make me cry - it was the only true free money I've ever seen - well - except for the Absolute 25% play 2 hands bonus where all you had to do was leave your money in for 30 days.

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03-08-2009 , 03:44 AM

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Rainbow Warrior

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Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,815

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Originally Posted by Webster

don't make me cry - it was the only true free money I've ever seen - well - except for the Absolute 25% play 2 hands bonus where all you had to do was leave your money in for 30 days.

Old Paradise had a reload bonus that cleared by just sitting out at a table.
I think it took them a day to fix it.
Twas the dawn of sh tables.

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03-08-2009 , 06:17 AM

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kslghost

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,153

The traffic has increased without a doubt. That being said, the competition is tougher, and the diversity of sites has decreased.

TBH, I think poker sites were considered even more "shady" in 2004, just because they were still "relatively" new. While the amount of complaints is still high today, I think it keeps less people from trying it than it used to.

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