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09-23-2019 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
What was the Skype address?
Here is a link to screen shot of the interaction:

https://ibb.co/syQx26x

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Edit/MH: "skype is fx.brassard"

Last edited by Mike Haven; 09-23-2019 at 10:00 AM.
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09-30-2019 , 10:22 AM
It's come to my attention that someone is now impersonating me on skype potentially trying to scam (pretty sure it's the same guy who middleman scammed me a few months back, that skype acct name is depeschbkn). If you want to trade with me, be sure that you're talking to skype acct: gloves22

and please verify with me over pm to this 2p2 account before sending any money.

Not exactly sure where to post this so will post in a few places.
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10-03-2019 , 12:29 PM
Scammed by "AndrewLovesky"

I sent $100 via cash app, he denied receiving. After dealing with Cash App support they confirmed he received and withdrew to his linked bank account, haven't heard from him since.

Mod, if more information is needed please let me know. Luckily this is my first instance of this happening.

Last edited by InItForGlory; 10-03-2019 at 12:38 PM.
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10-03-2019 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 4erkez
Got this done with ArnijsBarnijs. I sent first from my ps(choganly) to his ps(Nevarteikt). He sent BTC in no time. Everything went very smoothly, highly recommend.
Confirming this trade. All very fast and smooth. Would trade again
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10-06-2019 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by InItForGlory
Scammed by "AndrewLovesky"

I sent $100 via cash app, he denied receiving. After dealing with Cash App support they confirmed he received and withdrew to his linked bank account, haven't heard from him since.

Mod, if more information is needed please let me know. Luckily this is my first instance of this happening.
Just to weigh in on this character: I was after cash in Vietnam for live series; this guy AndrewLovesky contacted me on 2+2 via PM. Pretty skeptical as dude had like 2 posts. Anyways, he told me he was a student/horse of YugiohPro. I PM'd YugiohPro, he denied this, and that was that.

I'm interested into how he would have tried to scam me, as we would have had to meet in person...

Anyways, sorry you got scammed
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10-22-2019 , 07:12 PM
Must respect to all the mods and community members helping potential traders to not get scammed. I recently moved to the Philippines and will be trying to make a trade in order to start playing online once I choose a site to play on (as well as unlock my PM feature). All these tips helping people not to get scammed (although some seem to be common sense) are very insightful.
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10-25-2019 , 03:16 AM
A very strange incident. This person (who now seems to be banned) sends me a message on Twoplustwo that he sells PokerStars dollars for crypto.



Since he went first I decided to do the trade. It was a small amount, everything went well. Since it went well I purchased more a few days later. Then once I noticed that he is sending me funds from different usernames I asked him to explain, he said (with his broken English) that he is some sort of a middleman. It looked fishy so I requested a screenshot. Finally he gave me one, usernames and dates were blurred in it. Still wasn't complately satistied but decided to go ahead since I never had any problems with his transfers before and he promised to use only his account in the future.

So after this, did a few more transactions, all went well. Then a strange incident happens. We did one successful transaction, then once he sent me 600$, I decided not go ahead with the transaction (not because of the seller, but because I coudn't buy it at that time and he already sent funds before I said that I can't buy today). So I try to send it back to the seller - I can't since I haven't wagered it yet. So I contact Stars support and ask them to reverse the transaction. They say that they will ask payments team to do this. Next day, instead of a reversal, I get this:



Never in my life I accessed those accounts and I am not associated with them in any way. I only received funds from them and have pictures of all chat logs. Since I received this email, that seller stopped responding. Stars, why are you banning honest buyers, especially since I was the one who got in touch and asked to reverse the transaction? I don't even know that person's real name and what exactly he has done. He must have lied to me that he was a middleman.

So is there a Stars rep who can sort it out? Since via email they only give vague/copy-paste responses and keep saying that I am associated with this person when I am not.

Thanks.

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Edit/MH: Re barchocolate.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 10-25-2019 at 05:49 AM.
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10-25-2019 , 03:25 AM
1) You didn't buy $ at 2+2.
2) Your ban had nothing to do with 2+2.
3) You're extremely lucky you didn't get scammed. Why the **** are you dealing with some guy with 3 posts that sends from different accounts? I'm not even slightly surprised you've been banned, now that your account is associated with what is quite likely a scammer.

Fixed your misleading thread title.
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10-25-2019 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
1) You didn't buy $ at 2+2.
2) Your ban had nothing to do with 2+2.
3) You're extremely lucky you didn't get scammed. Why the **** are you dealing with some guy with 3 posts that sends from different accounts? I'm not even slightly surprised you've been banned.
I purchased it on 2+2, was talking to him via PM, purchased once or twice here and then talked to him on Skype afterwards.
I was very suspicious in the beginning, but if the transfers don't seem to cause any problems then how can I suspect that the seller has obtained the funds with some sort of a bonus abuse? I have never even heard of this ever happening to anyone.
Also, Stars should go ofter the seller/confiscate the funds, but why do they go after me?
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10-25-2019 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
1) You didn't buy $ at 2+2.
2) Your ban had nothing to do with 2+2.
3) You're extremely lucky you didn't get scammed. Why the **** are you dealing with some guy with 3 posts that sends from different accounts? I'm not even slightly surprised you've been banned, now that your account is associated with what is quite likely a scammer.
This - Although I disagree on #3 - I think that the OP is about to lose a chunk of money, with the PokerStars funds being returned to their rightful owner (which might be the customer accounts, and/or might be PokerStars themselves).

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Originally Posted by Timotej777
Stars, why are you banning honest buyers, especially since I was the one who got in touch and asked to reverse the transaction?
Because you're not an "honest buyer". You're (perhaps accidentally) helping to fund and fuel a fraudster, and there's a good chance that you've lost a big chunk of the money that you mistakenly thought you had "bought".

If you were an honest buyer of PokerStars money for crypto currencies, you would use their payment processor (Neteller) to do this, instead of helping some multi-accounting fraudster to defraud PokerStars and/or honest account holders.
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10-25-2019 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Josem
This - Although I disagree on #3 - I think that the OP is about to lose a chunk of money, with the PokerStars funds being returned to their rightful owner (which might be the customer accounts, and/or might be PokerStars themselves).



Because you're not an "honest buyer". You're (perhaps accidentally) helping to fund and fuel a fraudster, and there's a good chance that you've lost a big chunk of the money that you mistakenly thought you had "bought". This could have happened to anyone, that seller was even able to pull this of with a single account.

If you were an honest buyer of PokerStars money for crypto currencies, you would use their payment processor (Neteller) to do this, instead of helping some multi-accounting fraudster to defraud PokerStars and/or honest account holders.

I don't think the seller stole that money from someone, the email said that it was a bonus abuse. So maybe he created multiple accounts and used some sort of welcome bonuses, I have no idea.

And last paragraph makes no sense, all I did was exchange curriencies. I have done numerous deposits in the past. I am a very old player. This could have happened to anyone, especially when he managed to pull this off even with a single account (if he continued using multiple accounts - I would have stopped buying).

Last edited by Timotej777; 10-25-2019 at 03:45 AM.
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10-25-2019 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Timotej777
I was very suspicious in the beginning, but once he started sending me money from different accounts, my suspicions ended
fyp
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10-25-2019 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Josem
fyp

I asked him for a screenshot and he provided me one, even though it looked weird. Since he already transferred me funds before that and since I had no problems with his previous transfers, for that transaction I decided to go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt. If it would have been the very first transaction, I would never do it.
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10-25-2019 , 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Timotej777
If it would have been the very first transaction, I would never do it.
I get the feeling that you came here with a pre-existing view of what is right, and have not yet looked at it from the point of view of anyone else.

Of course the first transaction can only come from "one" account - you need to have two transfers before they can come from two different accounts.
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10-25-2019 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Timotej777
I purchased it on 2+2, was talking to him via PM, purchased once or twice here and then talked to him on Skype afterwards.
No, you didn't buy it on 2+2. There is no way to buy funds on 2+2. Perhaps you arranged the transaction through a contact on 2+2, but you didn't buy them here.

I know this is semantics to some, but there have been sites in the past (not sure if any exist now) that actually facilitated such transactions. I wouldn't want anyone new to the site to think that was possible here. Not as big a deal within your posts, but it wasn't a good thing to have in a thread title.

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Originally Posted by Timotej777
I was very suspicious in the beginning, but if the transfers don't seem to cause any problems then how can I suspect that the seller has obtained the funds with some sort of a bonus abuse?
Well, when you're dealing with a guy with no history here, and he sends from multiple accounts, how can't you suspect something could be amiss?

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Originally Posted by Timotej777
I have never even heard of this ever happening to anyone.
Then you haven't been around very long.

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Originally Posted by Timotej777
Also, Stars should go ofter the seller/confiscate the funds, but why do they go after me?
Because you've got the money now. If he stole it, then sent it to you, who else are they going to get the money from? Much like buying stolen property, if you've bought stolen funds, you're going to be the one on the hook for it.

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Originally Posted by Josem
This - Although I disagree on #3 - I think that the OP is about to lose a chunk of money, with the PokerStars funds being returned to their rightful owner (which might be the customer accounts, and/or might be PokerStars themselves).
Good point. I had forgotten he was the one receiving Stars funds, so yeah, he's likely lost those funds.

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Originally Posted by Timotej777
I don't think the seller stole that money from someone, the email said that it was a bonus abuse. So maybe he created multiple accounts and used some sort of welcome bonuses, I have no idea.
I which case, he stole it from Stars.

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Originally Posted by Timotej777
And last paragraph makes no sense, all I did was exchange curriencies. I have done numerous deposits in the past. I am a very old player. This could have happened to anyone, especially when he managed to pull this off even with a single account (if he continued using multiple accounts - I would have stopped buying).
Well sure, it could have happened to anyone who decided to trade with a guy that they know nothing about, and keep on trading after receiving money from different accounts. But most people wouldn't do that.

Don't get me wrong, I hope this somehow gets cleared up and you get your money and account back, but you've only got yourself to blame here, so that's why you're not getting the response you might have expected.
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10-25-2019 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Timotej777
A very strange incident. This person (who now seems to be banned) sends me a message on Twoplustwo that he sells PokerStars dollars for crypto.



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Re banned user barchocolate. (For future search purposes.)
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10-25-2019 , 04:06 PM
Pretty sure I’ve been scammed by Allan Cowan aka Defqon20 aka AC21092
Sent him my skrill 2 hours ago and he has disappeared off the face of the earth.

I have his email/twitter and various friends/family details who will all be contacted shortly if he doesn’t reappear. Will update with further information as I have it.
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10-28-2019 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Wehitityesssss
Pretty sure I’ve been scammed by Allan Cowan aka Defqon20 aka AC21092
Sent him my skrill 2 hours ago and he has disappeared off the face of the earth.

I have his email/twitter and various friends/family details who will all be contacted shortly if he doesn’t reappear. Will update with further information as I have it.
Update to this. I have been in contact with Allan who has assured me he will refund this money on Wednesday this week.

I have made a report to UK police and should this not be paid back on Wednesday they have advised they will visit him and arrest him for fraud by false representation, this is very easily provable with what information we have available. (amazing what you can achieve with a little inside knowledge!).
I will also follow this up with emails to Pokerstars and Skrill informing them of the issue. As well as messages to family and friends.

Lets see if he is true to his word. If so, i will happily remove the complaint to the UK police.
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11-01-2019 , 12:51 AM
Are we allowed to request a trade for Ignition funds?
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11-01-2019 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vegasbound99
Are we allowed to request a trade for Ignition funds?
Using Search this Thread for voucher finds https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=7747.
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11-01-2019 , 05:05 AM
Mike we are supposed to put our sn behind every site we include. What should we put behind Ignition?
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11-01-2019 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by vegasbound99
Mike we are supposed to put our sn behind every site we include. What should we put behind Ignition?
This new Voucher system is the acceptable exception to that Rule.

If you wish, to add credence, include your SN on your main site where SNs are used.

Obviously, take great care with your selection of a trading partner.
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11-05-2019 , 11:59 AM
I am looking to withdraw funds from Party Poker via player transfer.

I have heard there are services that provide this function or player groups on Skype that can help facilitate this.

Can anyone point me in the right direction for this one please?
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11-05-2019 , 02:12 PM
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...e-points-1529/

Make sure you read the OP (Opening Post) of the thread thoroughly before posting in it, or you may receive infraction points.
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11-09-2019 , 11:15 PM
I was just scammed for $100 by user 2+2 user kubaaa1992 my Zelle trying to trade him for ACR (my ACR is KawhiTho)

I'm an idiot and agreed via twitter to send to him first (he proposed doing 100 of the 375 requested first to gain his trust and ofc says he only sends first when he is one buying not selling ---wow I am a FOOL to fall for both of those basic obvious tricks).

This is kinda just a rant as Idk what else to do since I sent him Zelle....I filed a dispute with my bank on the zelle transfer.

If anyone else has any info on this guy that would be great. His twitter is @kubaa1992

Says the name "Frankie" for nickname under his twitter title

His phone number he gave me, connected with the Zelle account holder Carla Fitzgerals (yes, an S not a D --whom he claimed to be his gf/soon to be fiance/wife) is (845) 612-3857
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