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01-02-2015 , 11:21 PM
Bottom line here is. I came here to defend myself. Both people that have claimed that I scammed them have been banned as well from separate scams that I was not involved in in any way.

There is not a single way possible that I will ever be able to convince people 100% that I did not scam anyone, nor was I involved in any way scams in any way and I have to accept that or otherwise I'll endlessly be posting ITT trying to convince people of my innocence.
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01-02-2015 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KQHWnutz
Bottom line here is. I came here to defend myself. Both people that have claimed that I scammed them have been banned as well from separate scams that I was not involved in in any way.

There is not a single way possible that I will ever be able to convince people 100% that I did not scam anyone, nor was I involved in any way scams in any way and I have to accept that or otherwise I'll endlessly be posting ITT trying to convince people of my innocence.
That's the one thing that makes me want to believe you, it's just that the evidence is really strong the other way.

Is Verizon your carrier? If I had a family friend who works at Verizon look up the acct that number used to be on, it wouldn't be in your name or last name or someones name who would know you, right?
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01-02-2015 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefsfan17
If the monly wasn't picked up you don't file fraud lol. You just get a refund and they give you the money back. That is what I said from the beginning, but more
Has come up to where I don't believe Bradbury at all anymore.

Oh and here is the number people were texting.




Again it says Winchester, IN. But here's the kicker- when you call it, it says: "welcome to Verizon wireless, the number you're calling has been changed, disconnected or is no longer in service." So like I said before, this was a CELL PHONE NUMBER. Not google voice, not any text app. A scammer would not go that far to get a number hooked up to his Verizon number lol. Never in a million years would they think it'd get investigated this far.
You asked for my theory on the western union issue. I simply googled "western union refund" and it stated to contact the fraud department. I read that word for word on their website. Sorry I don't know the exact procedure.

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan17
That's the one thing that makes me want to believe you, it's just that the evidence is really strong the other way.

Is Verizon your carrier? If I had a family friend who works at Verizon look up the acct that number used to be on, it wouldn't be in your name or last name or someones name who would know you, right?
Verizon is my carrier

I can assure you that it's never been in my name, or any relatives/close friends name.

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01-03-2015 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Iliveontheedge
Just wanted to post an update:


I was informed 2 hours ago that Royhobbs62 had a heart attack that day I sent him $250 true. He has been in the hospital since and will be getting out of the hospital today. He also stated that he will take care of the $250 true tonight so I will give him the benefit of the doubt before taking other action against him. I will release my findings on him with what true poker has found on him and we can go from there.

Still waiting on payment...


It seems obvious to me at this point that he has no intention to repay the debt owed 4 days ago. I have sent numerous email and text message to him but he has ignored ever one of them. His imaginary story doesn't match up with what true poker is telling me after he states that he was in a hospital but I'll go more into detail on that in a little bit if I don't hear from him soon.

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01-03-2015 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Walter1
Listen, i am not to be bothered or PM'd about this anymore, i randomly perused this thread and saw that someone i know of, had potentially scammed someone, i offered to help the guy bc i knew we had mutual friends, and now im wrapped up in some stupid nonsense, i wash my hands of it

RoyHobbs62 told me in a PM that William Bradbury stole 280$ from him, thats all the info i have to offer anyone, if royhobbs62 is the guy in the text messages above then that contradicts what he said in the text messages i think. IDK i havent followed the thread at all, thats all the info i have to give

leave me alone
I understand that you prefer to be in the 'popcorn' stage right now, but you can help if you're so inclined.

Contact your mutual friend and ask if they have (765) 546-0539 as a contact number for Lee. If so, when did they first or last use that nember.
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01-03-2015 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TradeOC
Yea but we traded Poker funds. They dont allow that. I'll see what I can do.

The only info I got on him is his Lock email ccbam@mail.com and his PP email rtjanson@rock.com/Rod Upton.

That is all I got for now. I will have more when I speak with the owner of another Poker Forum. He will give me everything on him.
Did you ever get additional info? If so, please let me know.

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Did royhobbs sccam? I also got another PM from some1 else saying he might of scmamed them also?....

I findt this weird becuase I traded with Royhobbs a couple times on another Poker Fourm as im sure Dalsue did too...

But He has been trading for big amount recently so maybe he busted then had the urge to scam IDK....Any updates?

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NVM found out he was hospitalized...Damn. Fell better buddy,
What other forum? What is his screen name there?
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01-03-2015 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Clamper13


What other forum? What is his screen name there?

i think he is referring to this:


http://www.pokerowned.com/forums/f26...lem-20338.html
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01-03-2015 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Iliveontheedge
Just read that Thread. The reason he probably didn't want refunds is because he probably sent the money with his CCs and if they issues paypal refunds the money would go back to his CC and he wouldn't have it in cash to pay back. Either way the dude is definitely beyond shady, and it's not just from these potential scams. I say that mainly from his behaviour in situations prior to this and the way he obtains so many prepaid cards. Just doesn't seem legit at all.

And did people actually believe the heart attack story? I mean come on..
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01-03-2015 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefsfan17
Just read that Thread. The reason he probably didn't want refunds is because he probably sent the money with his CCs and if they issues paypal refunds the money would go back to his CC and he wouldn't have it in cash to pay back. Either way the dude is definitely beyond shady, and it's not just from these potential scams. I say that mainly from his behaviour in situations prior to this and the way he obtains so many prepaid cards. Just doesn't seem legit at all.

And did people actually believe the heart attack story? I mean come on..
Lol I was thinking the same thing. Like really ??
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01-03-2015 , 03:22 PM
I am new to this thread. The reason I am coming on here is in defense of William Bradbury. I have known him for about 5 years from live poker at Hollywood Casino in IN and the Horseshoe in Cincy. He has sold numerous packages on here for action in the past. He is not stupid, hard for me to think he would tarnish his name (and ruin his ability to sell packages) over a couple hundred dollars.

I contacted Lee via FB on 11/29 after reading about his so called "scamming" and he immediately told me he got hacked and told me that his IP showed he was in Canada. Even though my opinion doesnt really mean much to you all, I think his story is definitely believable. FWIW, the number I have in my cell phone for William is not the one that has been listed here. It looks similar, but it's not the same.
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01-03-2015 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ChasinScrila
I am new to this thread. The reason I am coming on here is in defense of William Bradbury. I have known him for about 5 years from live poker at Hollywood Casino in IN and the Horseshoe in Cincy. He has sold numerous packages on here for action in the past. He is not stupid, hard for me to think he would tarnish his name (and ruin his ability to sell packages) over a couple hundred dollars.

I contacted Lee via FB on 11/29 after reading about his so called "scamming" and he immediately told me he got hacked and told me that his IP showed he was in Canada. Even though my opinion doesnt really mean much to you all, I think his story is definitely believable. FWIW, the number I have in my cell phone for William is not the one that has been listed here. It looks similar, but it's not the same.

The claim of being hacked is is news to me and of no little importance.

Lee, care to elaborate?

The IP from what site? 2+2? P5's? Other?

How did you obtain that info?
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01-03-2015 , 03:38 PM
Thats my mutual friend of Lee's so now i am done, and will not receive multiple PMs a day about this anymore

I feel like being hacked was Lees defense from the jump fwiw, only suspicious thing to me is that it took a month for anything to happen about it
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01-03-2015 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Iliveontheedge
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I was informed 2 hours ago that Royhobbs62 had a heart attack that day I sent him $250 true...
Who told you this?

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Originally Posted by TradeOC
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NVM found out he was hospitalized...Damn. Fell better buddy,
Who told you this?

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Originally Posted by Iliveontheedge
Still waiting on payment...

It seems obvious to me at this point that he has no intention to repay the debt owed 4 days ago. I have sent numerous email and text message to him but he has ignored ever one of them. His imaginary story doesn't match up with what true poker is telling me after he states that he was in a hospital but I'll go more into detail on that in a little bit if I don't hear from him soon.
No sense waiting. Please post PM whatever info True gave you.
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01-03-2015 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Clamper13
The claim of being hacked is is news to me and of no little importance.
The post you quoted is about the person, who posted as AhoosierA and as KQHWnutz after that account got banned. At least I think it is. It can get confusing with so many suspects at the same time. The claim isn't new. You can read more about it here.

One of them got the dates wrong. KQHWnutz said he found out that he had been hacked on Dec 12. His friend says he's been told Nov 29.
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01-03-2015 , 04:54 PM
Maybe he didn't mean 29 nov by 11/29. Could've been using dd/mm format.
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01-03-2015 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefsfan17
Maybe he didn't mean 29 nov by 11/29. Could've been using dd/mm format.
LOL, what? So instead he meant the 11th of Googlyvember?
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01-03-2015 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Clamper13
Who told you this?


Dalsue brought this to my attention yesterday around 10 AM MAYBE? I thought i was lucky maybe because he was reaching out to someone since his 2+2 was temp ban. I guess a friend of "RoyHobbs62" reached out to Dalsue through email because SUPPOSELY he had a heart attack on New Years Eve and i was spamming his phone with text messages and calls and i guess RoyHobbs didn't appreciate that. But what do you expect when you scammed someone for $250 and disappear like that?


Fwiw, his friend also mentioned in the email that RoyHobbs62 will be getting out of the hospital yesterday as well and will send the funds back to me yesterday too. But up until this point i haven't heard a word from RoyHobbs62 or any funds were sent back to my True either.
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01-03-2015 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jh1711
The post you quoted is about the person, who posted as AhoosierA and as KQHWnutz after that account got banned. At least I think it is. It can get confusing with so many suspects at the same time. The claim isn't new. You can read more about it here.

One of them got the dates wrong. KQHWnutz said he found out that he had been hacked on Dec 12. His friend says he's been told Nov 29.
I stand corrected, sir. Thanks for pointing that out.

Amongst all the blather this dispute has produced, I missed that inference.

Notwithstanding, I'm still eager to hear from Lee about the IP.
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01-03-2015 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Iliveontheedge
Dalsue brought this to my attention yesterday around 10 AM MAYBE? I thought i was lucky maybe because he was reaching out to someone since his 2+2 was temp ban. I guess a friend of "RoyHobbs62" reached out to Dalsue through email because SUPPOSELY he had a heart attack on New Years Eve and i was spamming his phone with text messages and calls and i guess RoyHobbs didn't appreciate that. But what do you expect when you scammed someone for $250 and disappear like that?


Fwiw, his friend also mentioned in the email that RoyHobbs62 will be getting out of the hospital yesterday as well and will send the funds back to me yesterday too. But up until this point i haven't heard a word from RoyHobbs62 or any funds were sent back to my True either.
Dalsue214, anything you care to add to this? If so, post or PM please.
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01-03-2015 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Clamper13
Dalsue214, anything you care to add to this? If so, post or PM please.
No that's what I received from his E-mail to mine. I am not defending anybody. I just relay what I receive. I am not a spokesperson for anyone but myself... and by that I can say I have never scammed/shorted/bullsh*tted anyone in any way, shape, or form.

I have not received any further word from RoyHobbs. He has also not signed onto PokerOwned since 12/29 or attempted to get in contact with me like he usually does.. The heart-attack scenario adds up.. but again.. I will not defend anybody and put my reputation on the line as I do not know for sure.
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01-03-2015 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dalsue214
No that's what I received from his E-mail to mine. I am not defending anybody. I just relay what I receive. I am not a spokesperson for anyone but myself... and by that I can say I have never scammed/shorted/bullsh*tted anyone in any way, shape, or form.

I have not received any further word from RoyHobbs. He has also not signed onto PokerOwned since 12/29 or attempted to get in contact with me like he usually does.. The heart-attack scenario adds up.. but again.. I will not defend anybody and put my reputation on the line as I do not know for sure.
Please keep in mind I'm not accusing you of any shady dealings, and I don't consider you a suspect.

I'm just gathering facts and trying to put the pieces together. It's like a jigsaw puzzle, but I don't have all the pieces. Each new piece, however small and inconsequential it may seem, clarifies the picture a litte more, and eventually a full picture will emerge.

I you care to help, PM me his email address and anything else you have to share.
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01-03-2015 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Clamper13
Please keep in mind I'm not accusing you of any shady dealings, and I don't consider you a suspect.

I'm just gathering facts and trying to put the pieces together. It's like a jigsaw puzzle, but I don't have all the pieces. Each new piece, however small and inconsequential it may seem, clarifies the picture a litte more, and eventually a full picture will emerge.

I you care to help, PM me his email address and anything else you have to share.

Put this into perspective:


In the email to Dalsue, his friend states that Royhobbs62 tried to transfer back $250 True back to me on New Years Eve, but SUPPOSELY he reached his transfer limit for the day. But the PMs he sent me on that day he said Funds have been sent back to you.


My question is Why did he lie to me in PMs saying that he sent the funds back to me?



Also lets imagine he didn't know and it went through, but it came back as denied and he had no way to tell since he had a heart attack later that night. I'm wiling to accept that reasoning, but i checked with True Poker Security, and they are telling me that he DID NOT initiate a transfer of $250 True back to me at all so i don't know how i can take his word for it.


Also lets assume he DID NOT know about this transfer limit being reached. I checked with True Poker Security and that day on New Years Eve, i was told that the $250 is in his account. Let me say this again, True Poker Security CONFIRMS to me that $250 funds were in his account, but they can't just take it from his account without his authorization.



BUTTT, I spoke to a supervisor at True Poker on January 1, 2015, and he CONFIRMS that the $250 is OUT of his acccount and he DOES NOT have the funds in his account anymore.

Now that is ODD, because he SUPPOSELY had a heart attack on New Years Eve, so it makes sense he had $250 in his True account since he was at the hospital. But how can his account be empty the next day if he was at the hospital????



Makes no sense to me at all.........
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01-03-2015 , 07:25 PM
Someone here should get a job at WPN security for a day and print out all these guys acct histories and then quit the job and post them here
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01-03-2015 , 08:14 PM
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Interested in the trade with (AsianAction)
Have $500 Vanilla & GDMP
Want $500 ACR (RenRad15)

PM sent.
Possible scammer/high risk user!

P5's leads to a name totally different than the one he linked to me on Skype.

Refuses to send first to me knowing my reputation/confirmed posts.

All 18 posts leading back from today.

Do not let the join date fool you.

I do not recommend sending first to this individual & asked a Mod to look into his account.
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01-03-2015 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dalsue214
Possible scammer/high risk user!

P5's leads to a name totally different than the one he linked to me on Skype.

Refuses to send first to me knowing my reputation/confirmed posts.

All 18 posts leading back from today.

Do not let the join date fool you.

I do not recommend sending first to this individual & asked a Mod to look into his account.

Agreed seems very fishy he PM'ed me saying he has 400k in live earnings
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