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09-26-2013 , 04:46 PM
Can someone tell me what is the current market rate for trading


BoA for Skrill USD

Pokerstars for Skrill USD


I purchased pokerstars funds for my boa funds at 0.97. This seems to be the consensus and current rate though i see some ppl sell it for boa funds at no vig.


I see some ppl offering skrill usd for boa at no vig but i assume the current rate should be 98% or so?
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09-26-2013 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by vegasbound99
I originally kept my mouth shut about this because I knew Depech had a rep on 2 +2 and I didn't want to be the one that ended up under the bus. I have thought long and hard after what happened to Robb about whether or not to say anything about an issue I had with Depech and have come to the conclusion that it would be irresponsible of me to keep my mouth closed at this point so here it goes. Last month I was involved in the beast chase on the WPN. The account that I was using happened to be my BCP account. Toward the middle of the month I found myself needing BCP funds as I was struggling to stay ahead of the rake multi tabling with 12 tables. I started to make multiple post in the transfer thread for BCP funds. At this point either I contacted Depech or he contacted me regarding my need for the BCP funds. Before we had come to any agreement on BCP funds I received a PM from Depech informing me about a rakeback site that he either owns or is affiliated with suggesting that I might want to sign up as I had explain to Depech in a prior pm that non of my other WPN accounts (BCP & ACR) had rakeback. I will avoid stating the name of the site for obvious reasons. We PMed back and forth as Depech came to understand that the only account that I had not established with the WPN was True and this will become relevant as you hear the rest of my story. We finally came to an agreement on somewhere around $300 gdmp for $300 BCP as I then explained to Depech that I was going to have my wife stop at the local Wal-Mart to pick up the GDMP. She came with the GDMP no more than an hour after we had agreed on the above deal. I then PMed Depech to inform him that I had the gdmp and was ready to provide him with the code and he then PMed me back stating that he didn't have any more BCP funds but had plenty of True Poker funds that he could sell me. I then had to explain to Depech a second time that the reason I wanted the funds on BCP is because I was already deep into the Beast Chase as there was no way I was going to switch over to another account. He then tried to explain to me that the rakeback that I would generate through his rakeback site would far exceed any funds that I may generate through the Beast Chase. It became clear to me that Depech was trying to redirect my deposit from BCP to True Poker for his own personal gain after he had already made an agreement with me. I had done a few trades with Depech prior to this botched deal and will say that his communication skills are less than satisfactory but as far as I am concerned he agreed to a deal with me this time and did not come through for what I believe was the motive of having me sign up with his rakeback site thus have me generate revenue for him. This caused me a lot of wasted time. I was so pissed off that I started PMing other members as I took valuable time away from my efforts of the Beast Chase. Also the GDMP that I had purchased ended up getting put back on my credit card because under the circumstances with the beast chase I only needed BCP and there was non available at the time so I ended up eating the fee because I was not comfortable sitting on the GDMP for any extended period of time. I have not traded with Depech since and will never trade with him again. Funny thing is he PMed me recently and offered me .85 for my BCP. My response to him was simple " Not a shot. I will provide you the same courtesy you provided me 1:1 ". I sure am glad he refused because I guess I would have had to honor that deal.
Wow cant even read this...maybe next time use paragraphs! LOL
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09-26-2013 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TradeOC
Whats the best way to go upon opening a Bank Account to use strickly for Poker/Poker excahnge?

I see BoA is used alot. Chase is another option I see, but I heard there are problems with ChaseQP.

Any advice? Suggestions?

Thanks!
-OC
Still would like to know. Thanks!
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09-26-2013 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TradeOC
Wow cant even read this...maybe next time use paragraphs! LOL
Ok let me shorten it for you. This individual is disrespectful and treats people in a manor that he should be called out for IMO.
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09-26-2013 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TradeOC
Still would like to know. Thanks!
BoA is the way to go. Go to a branch and open an account
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09-26-2013 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
BoA is the way to go. Go to a branch and open an account
I assume if I wanted to trade with you I could just go to my local branch and deposit into your account without one of my own?
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09-26-2013 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Drewphish2
Can someone tell me what is the current market rate for trading


BoA for Skrill USD

Pokerstars for Skrill USD


I purchased pokerstars funds for my boa funds at 0.97. This seems to be the consensus and current rate though i see some ppl sell it for boa funds at no vig.


I see some ppl offering skrill usd for boa at no vig but i assume the current rate should be 98% or so?
as in any arena (like poker) where people are competing over money, there are going to be people doing various things to try to gain an edge/make a profit. in trading, some people might post about no-vig swaps and then end up selling at a discount, privately. some people might start with a lowball or highball offer, expecting to haggle. some people might post fake trades to try to establish a reputation or alter the going rate for something. some people might selectively post certain of their trades (but not others) in order to affect a rate.

i usually see stars go for anywhere between .95 and 1.00, with the majority of big swaps (stars for wire, or stars for bank transfer) being around .95-.97 or so. i'm not very familiar with skrill but i believe they had some sort of promotion where you could make some money by moving large sums around, but i believe they've ended that promotion. so it's possible people are trying to unload skrill and maybe that's affected the rates. however, don't take my word for it as i don't directly use skrill.
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09-26-2013 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by vegasbound99
Ok let me shorten it for you. This individual is disrespectful and treats people in a manor that he should be called out for IMO.
Lol, he actually tried to bait and switch you so he could get you to sign up under him to get the affiliate revenue. That would be the cliffs.

Assuming your story is 100% true the behavior should be grounds for banning as people shouldn't be trolling the transfer thread looking for potential clients to put under them as an affiliate. I'm 100% sure that is not what MH had in mind when the thread was made.
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09-26-2013 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoPolo
Lol, he actually tried to bait and switch you so he could get you to sign up under him to get the affiliate revenue. That would be the cliffs.

Assuming your story is 100% true the behavior should be grounds for banning as people shouldn't be trolling the transfer thread looking for potential clients to put under them as an affiliate. I'm 100% sure that is not what MH had in mind when the thread was made.
Agreed.

The transfers thread is for poker players to help other poker players try different sites. Because of other current difficulties, poker players have for a while been helping other poker players deposit on or withdraw from certain poker sites.

It has always been against Twoplustwo's base rules for users to try to run businesses on the back of Twoplustwo, unless they are paying advertisers, but it does seem that a number of people are taking advantage of the current difficulties simply to make a profit for themselves out of trading.

We are considering major revisions to the rules for posting in the transfers thread, and will advise accordingly, in due course.
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09-26-2013 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoPolo
Lol, he actually tried to bait and switch you so he could get you to sign up under him to get the affiliate revenue. That would be the cliffs.

Assuming your story is 100% true the behavior should be grounds for banning as people shouldn't be trolling the transfer thread looking for potential clients to put under them as an affiliate. I'm 100% sure that is not what MH had in mind when the thread was made.
I don't believe he was trolling the transfer thread for that reason. I believe he was trying to sell off his funds and the opportunity presented itself to him and he took it. I created the post because I felt that Robb shouldn't be left out there being the only one to express how multiple people feel.
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09-27-2013 , 01:14 AM
Yea to have you try and join another site is messed up...

Anyways. I will look into BoA.

Problem is I had a messed up BoA account LOL. I had a negitive checking and I wonder since its been like 5 years if theyll let me open a new one.
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09-27-2013 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
as in any arena (like poker) where people are competing over money, there are going to be people doing various things to try to gain an edge/make a profit. in trading, some people might post about no-vig swaps and then end up selling at a discount, privately. some people might start with a lowball or highball offer, expecting to haggle. some people might post fake trades to try to establish a reputation or alter the going rate for something. some people might selectively post certain of their trades (but not others) in order to affect a rate.

i usually see stars go for anywhere between .95 and 1.00, with the majority of big swaps (stars for wire, or stars for bank transfer) being around .95-.97 or so. i'm not very familiar with skrill but i believe they had some sort of promotion where you could make some money by moving large sums around, but i believe they've ended that promotion. so it's possible people are trying to unload skrill and maybe that's affected the rates. however, don't take my word for it as i don't directly use skrill.


Thanks for that information.


Anyone here familiar with skrill know what is the selling rate for it for boa funds and for pokerstars funds?


I seen a few ppl post in the thread offering skrill usd for boa and stars at no vig. Obviously this deal is better for them and boa money is worth more than skrill money but wouldn't this be better since you want to get boa money into moneybooker, you need to do 2 bank wires and wait? Thus bank wire from boa to bank of montreal? Then do another bank wire from bmo to skrill and thus have to incur 2 wire fee charges along with the intermediary fees?
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09-27-2013 , 05:22 AM
fyi
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=25425

Jer672 may have contacted traders in this forums thread
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09-27-2013 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by vegasbound99
I originally kept my mouth shut about this because I knew Depech had a rep on 2 +2 and I didn't want to be the one that ended up under the bus. I have thought long and hard after what happened to Robb about whether or not to say anything about an issue I had with Depech and have come to the conclusion that it would be irresponsible of me to keep my mouth closed at this point so here it goes. Last month I was involved in the beast chase on the WPN. The account that I was using happened to be my BCP account. Toward the middle of the month I found myself needing BCP funds as I was struggling to stay ahead of the rake multi tabling with 12 tables. I started to make multiple post in the transfer thread for BCP funds. At this point either I contacted Depech or he contacted me regarding my need for the BCP funds. Before we had come to any agreement on BCP funds I received a PM from Depech informing me about a rakeback site that he either owns or is affiliated with suggesting that I might want to sign up as I had explain to Depech in a prior pm that non of my other WPN accounts (BCP & ACR) had rakeback. I will avoid stating the name of the site for obvious reasons. We PMed back and forth as Depech came to understand that the only account that I had not established with the WPN was True and this will become relevant as you hear the rest of my story. We finally came to an agreement on somewhere around $300 gdmp for $300 BCP as I then explained to Depech that I was going to have my wife stop at the local Wal-Mart to pick up the GDMP. She came with the GDMP no more than an hour after we had agreed on the above deal. I then PMed Depech to inform him that I had the gdmp and was ready to provide him with the code and he then PMed me back stating that he didn't have any more BCP funds but had plenty of True Poker funds that he could sell me. I then had to explain to Depech a second time that the reason I wanted the funds on BCP is because I was already deep into the Beast Chase as there was no way I was going to switch over to another account. He then tried to explain to me that the rakeback that I would generate through his rakeback site would far exceed any funds that I may generate through the Beast Chase. It became clear to me that Depech was trying to redirect my deposit from BCP to True Poker for his own personal gain after he had already made an agreement with me. I had done a few trades with Depech prior to this botched deal and will say that his communication skills are less than satisfactory but as far as I am concerned he agreed to a deal with me this time and did not come through for what I believe was the motive of having me sign up with his rakeback site thus have me generate revenue for him. This caused me a lot of wasted time. I was so pissed off that I started PMing other members as I took valuable time away from my efforts of the Beast Chase. Also the GDMP that I had purchased ended up getting put back on my credit card because under the circumstances with the beast chase I only needed BCP and there was non available at the time so I ended up eating the fee because I was not comfortable sitting on the GDMP for any extended period of time. I have not traded with Depech since and will never trade with him again. Funny thing is he PMed me recently and offered me .85 for my BCP. My response to him was simple " Not a shot. I will provide you the same courtesy you provided me 1:1 ". I sure am glad he refused because I guess I would have had to honor that deal.
That's who depechbnkn is....a guy looking to profit every last nickel on anyone here and it matters nothing if he screws you as long as he gets his. He's terrible and now it's confirmed he pm's people trying to grow his affiliate business. No surprise he has no respect for anybody. Charged me 15% for Netspend after steering me to Netspend and saying "ya i have plenty of netspend $100 is fine there and no fee to you ..."....then says I misinterpreted what he said. Everyone knows that Netspend is worse less for all the fees you incur to withdraw/load/being useless for buyins etc...and everyone wants to get rid of it because it's just a click of the mouse to trade. 15% after saying "no fee to you" can't be misinterpreted. I was screwed and just like Vegasbound99 he acted like he was doing me the favor while screwing me. Makes it worse. Never again.

Last edited by Rob999; 09-27-2013 at 10:07 AM.
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09-27-2013 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
Agreed.

The transfers thread is for poker players to help other poker players try different sites. Because of other current difficulties, poker players have for a while been helping other poker players deposit on or withdraw from certain poker sites.

It has always been against Twoplustwo's base rules for users to try to run businesses on the back of Twoplustwo, unless they are paying advertisers, but it does seem that a number of people are taking advantage of the current difficulties simply to make a profit for themselves out of trading.

We are considering major revisions to the rules for posting in the transfers thread, and will advise accordingly, in due course.
Get rid of lock / juicy from the poker economy this problem is solved, how much money can you really make flipping a skin like intertops when not even a lot of people use it and the margins are so thin, same goes for ACR, BCP etc. Look at Lock though, you see it going anywhere from .16-.25 and people constantly buying and reselling it.


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Originally Posted by TradeOC
Yea to have you try and join another site is messed up...

Anyways. I will look into BoA.

Problem is I had a messed up BoA account LOL. I had a negitive checking and I wonder since its been like 5 years if theyll let me open a new one.
You will have to settle with them, your debt isn't just gonna go away. Just go to your branch ask them what you owe.
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09-27-2013 , 11:00 PM
just tried to do a trade with
Dalsue214 he sent the gd code first for my bcp funds i had done one previous trade with him that went really smooth, when i tried to load the code it was already used today earlier in the day this is a shady act and i wouldnt recommend anyone trying to trade with him atm

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Originally Posted by Dalsue214
I actually purchased this one myself. The only person who touched this was me.

It was loaded with $150, I loaded $130 myself (I can screenshot it for proof) leaving $20

I still have the receipt. What do you want me to do about this?

Last edited by Mike Haven; 09-28-2013 at 10:19 AM.
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09-27-2013 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by justineazy
just tried to do a trade with
Dalsue214 he sent the gd code first for my bcp funds i had done one previous trade with him that went really smooth, when i tried to load the code it was already used today earlier in the day this is a shady act and i wouldnt recommend anyone trying to trade with him atm
Done many trades with dalsue, some ranging from 100-1.5k amounts reported and unreported off the site, I have sent first and vice versa, I know where he gets his GDMP's and if it was off, he either gave u the wrong one, or got it confused with another 1 (i know he will have multiple trades going on at times) im almost 99% sure unless he was hacked that he is not scamming u, i'll get in touch with him on skype and have him send u a pm.
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09-27-2013 , 11:17 PM
ya im pretty confident he wasnt trying to i jus posted to be safe
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09-27-2013 , 11:21 PM
incase he did get hacked we can have a recod of it
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09-27-2013 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob999
That's who depechbnkn is....a guy looking to profit every last nickel on anyone here and it matters nothing if he screws you as long as he gets his. He's terrible and now it's confirmed he pm's people trying to grow his affiliate business. No surprise he has no respect for anybody. Charged me 15% for Netspend after steering me to Netspend and saying "ya i have plenty of netspend $100 is fine there and no fee to you ..."....then says I misinterpreted what he said. Everyone knows that Netspend is worse less for all the fees you incur to withdraw/load/being useless for buyins etc...and everyone wants to get rid of it because it's just a click of the mouse to trade. 15% after saying "no fee to you" can't be misinterpreted. I was screwed and just like Vegasbound99 he acted like he was doing me the favor while screwing me. Makes it worse. Never again.
Not defending Depechbnkn. No contact for hours is not cool regardless of circumstance. I do not love him making money each way on a trade either but no one puts a gun to anyone's head and it gives me great piece of mind to know if I need to sell or for that matter buy poker funds quickly, guys like him are around. Plus I trust him.
Reading this netspend thing, it is clear to me that he meant no $5.95 fee to you for buying the moneypak card not no vig. It is how I took it from very first time I read your post about it. For me it is more of a reach to see it how you saw it but you probably could give that message to 20 people and get 10 thinking one way and 10 thinking another.
Knowing Depechbnkn, he never would be saying no vig. Fee is the cost of buying the card, vig is the charge on the money.
You had every right to be pissed for waiting, annoyed for having to send first and pay 15% and put off if you thought he is just arrogant but this netspend thing, is just you not getting what he meant.
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09-28-2013 , 08:54 AM
I have had quite a few trades with Depechbnkn also. Unlike some i have no problem with him making $ or charging extra vig for trades. He has built a solid reputation and when i trade with him knowing i will not be scammed is worth the extra vig.

IMO NoChopNinja said it best The seller isn't your buddy doing you a favor, its someone offering a service and so should rightfully profit off of it. You don't like someone's prices move onto the next person.

A few of the trades i had with him in the past took a few hours to complete after i sent, but i was never worried about getting scammed. I understand this case is a bit different since he said it would be done in 1 hour, but sometimes **** happens.
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09-28-2013 , 09:15 AM
Anyone who can tell me what does BCP BOA ACR GDMP means ?
What abbreviation of these ?Thanks !
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09-28-2013 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by vipsml
Anyone who can tell me what does BCP BOA ACR GDMP means ?
What abbreviation of these ?Thanks !
Blackchip poker
Bank of America
Americas cardroom
Greendot moneypack
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09-28-2013 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by justineazy
just tried to do a trade with
Dalsue214 he sent the gd code first for my bcp funds i had done one previous trade with him that went really smooth, when i tried to load the code it was already used today earlier in the day this is a shady act and i wouldnt recommend anyone trying to trade with him atm
I actually purchased this one myself. The only person who touched this was me.

It was loaded with $150, I loaded $130 myself (I can screenshot it for proof) leaving $20

I still have the receipt. What do you want me to do about this?

PM:

I can provide proof of everything I've done.

I am not going to use your $23.00, and will send it back if I am forced to... but I am not going to send it back until this is investigated.

Last edited by Dalsue214; 09-28-2013 at 10:29 AM. Reason: posted my PM to justineazy
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09-28-2013 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob999
I have another story about Depechebnkn. The previous time I traded with him these are the direct quotes...."Hey Dan looking for $100 on GDMP for $110 on ACR" He replies "that's too small to go to 7-11 for sorry and my rate would be .85" Then I said I do have Netspend.....and he said..."ya i have plenty of netspend $100 is fine there and no fee to you" Then of course this clown somehow gets everyone to send first and then he sends me 85. I said "what do you mean 85....you said "No Fee" and he said I misunderstood. I didn't miss understand anything. That's his direct quote. And then of course the next time I sent first again (I smack myself for that because I will guarantee I have more trades in all forums for the last 7 years than he does) and he doesn't respond for 4 hours...and of course charges more vig than anybody. He's a jerkoff. Trying to make living out of screwing poker players.
Traded with Dan on numerous occasions and always received what was promised in a timely fashion. He was a great trader and didn't seem like a jerk off. Would do business with Dan again in a heartbeat. Not my fight but just wanted to input my two cents. I know no one wants hear but it's gotta be said ROLL DAMN TIDE.
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