actually i know in new jersey you can only use cash to buy a GDMP and can't even use your debit card. Also never tell anyone your trading poker funds. They want nothing to do with that. I am surprised they froze your account for adding funds 5 times. Most cards limits are 7 in a week. Prob has to do with the state you live in and their laws.

don't learn the hard way:

• Daily: $1,500 or 4 MoneyPak loads.
• Weekly: $3,500 or 7 MoneyPak loads.
• Monthly: $5,000 or 20 MoneyPak loads.

Thank you for posting this. I wonder if this is the same for Netspend reload cards. They are just like GDMP, but for mastercards.

Thank you all very much for the GDMP info much appreciated

You can also take a GDMP reload pak # and load it into your paypal account, not sure if those limits would apply there

Very true, just remember its against paypal's terms and conditions to do any trading for gambling or purchases for gambling sites.

If someone buys a GDMP reload pak and ships me the # and I use it to load into my paypal, there's virtually no way Paypal can connect this transaction to gambling.

Also remember people, a person can REVERSE a GDMP reload pak transaction, even if they bought it with cash. It's hard to do, because GD will basically tell you it was your responsibility to safeguard your card/number, but if you claim fraud and send a convincing enough BS story, they will do it. It has happened before. However, for the most part, receiving a GDMP reload pak # is still miles safer than Amazon, Chase QP, or a Paypal transfer.

I agree 100% with what you have said. I just want people to know that though paypal would not know and would have a hard time tracing a GDMP back to poker trading, that they do frown upon it.

I feel I have to post this here because I dont think more than 50% of the people here follow up on the 2p2 transfer chat

I am posting this because I am a little upset. I have chase and sadly they don't have instant transfers to the same bank like wells fargo, and boa does. They have chase quick pay.

Chase quick pay is a side thing where you can sign up as many times as you like as long as you have a different account number for that qp.

I been doing a thorough investigation all night. I talked with some people too weary to even accept my chase quick pay and found it rather insulting as i'm sending first.

How the chase qp scam works.... Someone makes a Chase Quickpay account and attaches whatever bank account they have to it (some scammer probably with a $0 balance). They can make a Chase Quickpay payment up to 2,000 even with no funds in the account and it shows up as pending. After the recipient (you) clicks accept, the money is never taken out the account but shows up as pending, the sender will even tell you it is to make you think it's already going through, but it isn't and it's going to bounce like a check and get cancelled (not reversed).

Now this is where the misconceptions begin, it wasn't reversed, it's just a hole in the system being used against you like social engineering trick. It's their fault they don't know how it works but lessons learned but now those people complaining are making it sound like Chase Quickpay is a bad thing. I searched every Chase Quickpay scam on here and I haven't seen onc transaction where the funds actually hit the account get "reversed".

You can't get funds reversed... it's a bank account, not a paypal account. Banks have strict policy about that stuff. In the rare case somebody was hacked/ information compromised then maybe just maybe they could reverse it but even still the TOS says it's the users responsibility to keep their information safe. Chase, BOA, and WF all have major security features to prevent simple hackers from sending funds without authentications -2 step verification by phone, security questions, etc

So... I would like to clear this up now. If someone could show me a link to a thread where funds that actually HIT your account was reversed please do. Not a case where the payment was "pending" and then cancelled.

I have Chase and I can't stand people that keep telling me it's unsafe and untrustworthy because they think it can be reversed in which the scammers weren't reversing payments but actually engineering social confusion of the process in which the transfer is made.

I'm willing to send first, to reputable traders, and let the money actually hit their account before I request any funds shipped to me. Not being able to do that because of a misconception/misunderstanding is a bit annoying.

Chase is a huge reputable bank the 3 largest banks in USA are Wells, BOA, and Chase and you're telling me payments can be reversed? I don't buy it one bit.

Time to shatter this mess

If a seller doesn't want Chase QP, and since you love Chase so much, why don't you just go to your local branch and deposit cash in their Chase account. This is 100% foolproof, and then everyone is happy

PS - it's neat you learned a new concept in school this week "Social Engineering" - however people not wanting to get scammed by Chase QP and warning other people it has it's downsides isn't exactly "Social Engineering"

Not everyone wants to get in their car, drive to the bank, pull out money and transfer funds.

Online bank is convenient, and whether you deposit into their bank or send from chase using Chase QP, it still hits your account.

I will be calling the bank tomorrow to ask in what circumstances can a payment be reversed.

Maybe the seller would appreciate the CONVENIENCE of having their funds right away instead of waiting for a Chase QP payment to 'clear' so that it CANNOT be reversed*


*this is assuming you are 100% correct and that cleared payments can't be reversed.

If it is too inconvenient for you to go to YOUR OWN BANK and fill out a withdraw slip or use your debit/ATM card and get some cash, and then fill out a deposit slip for the sender (all can be done in 90-120 seconds), then you must not want to play online poker all that badly...

Yes it can be reversed and it can even show up money in your account ready for withdrawal. If you were really serious you would drive to the bank and deposit. Obviously no one wants to deal with Chase scam pay.

More accurately, it sounds like you're attempting the "social engineering" since you are trying to "influence popular attitudes and social behaviors on a large scale"

Others were just reporting their own experiences....mostly negative, with receiving Chase QP transfers.

No i'm clearing this up, if they are claiming a transaction was reversed in which it wasn't then people need to know how this stuff works.

Can't have misconceptions ruining people's ability to trade fairly on here.

It is not a matter of trading fairly. Chase Quick pay has many problems. I have read that it can be reversed up to 60 days. Now I know at the minimum I have read over a week for sure. Money in account and then reversed.

Assuming you are right in your claim that once a transaction clears, it cannot be reversed (which btw I think you're wrong)....

Maybe people don't want to accept Chase QP because they don't want to have to wait for it to clear and worry the whole time. Same reason 99% of sellers here won't accept a personal check.

So since you want to trade with Chase QP so badly, it would be reasonable for the seller to make you wait a few days until the transaction clears before you get the funds sent to you, right?

Wait...doesn't it just sound easier to go to a B&M branch location and deposit, which was suggested like 5 posts ago?

The only problem is people have had money in their account and had the transaction reversed after 1 week. The actual time might be lengthy to fully know how safe your funds are. I have read it could be reversed up to 60 days. If that is accurate that is horrible.

Can you link me to the thread please?

Is there a way to transfer funds from chase to chase bypassing chase quickpay. Like a scheduled payment?

Probably not.

IDK about Chase, but with my bank, I can call them and have them send a bank wire to someone. You might be able to do this if you really really really are obsessed with not leaving your house. Pros to this: wires usually cannot be reversed and they don't need a chase account, they should be able to accept a wire with any bank. Cons: Both you and them will probably have to pay a fee for the wire.

If you really need a way to legitimately buy poker funds from someone without leaving your house, try to find a seller who will accept Western Union. A lot of sellers here will accept a WU transaction as long as you are trading for a decent amount. I'll gladly go to my local gas station or grocery store to pick up a WU as long as it's a good deal for me. And you can send the WU from their website with a debit card.

Or stop being lazy and go buy a GDMP, or deposit cash into someone's chase account.

GL

It's not about being lazy but many many many people won't go running around town doing western unions and stuff, and besides, people who accept wu/mg are at high risk, they can be scammers/drug cartels/money launders etc. Risky business I'd rather not be "flagged" by the Feds as a potential threat to money laundering i'll stick to transferring money behind my desktop/laptop/ipad/iphone.

There's so much funny stuff in this post and your first 14 since you created your account. but i'm going to bed now cause i'm tired, so i'll give someone else a chance to step in. keep wearing your tinfoil hat and decrying the injustices of the 2+2 community's wholesale condemnation of Chase QP. We are all "social engineers", remember?

Meanwhile, please never ask for a trade with me. I will never accept Chase QP no matter what. I'd rather take my chances doing business with the drug cartels and money launderers that frequent WU locations. (i mostly just see mexicans sending money to their families back home), but whatever. gl

I would link but not sure if other forum links are allowed. But some areas I have read where money was not in process but actually in their account and then the next day gone. The user had reversed it.

I think you can link it i'd like to see it, if this is the case, pretty sick

I still can't stand people telling me my chase payment is untrustworthy especially since their concerns are based of misconceived evidence/speculation.

simply go on line, open a BoA account that is only for online or atm's (they have them and you'll actually incur a charge going to a teller,) fund it with a minimum of $25 online and have it. This is the easiest, safest, most convenient and least expensive form of trading...let alone all the other aspects outside of poker it offers.