I also had my netspend account closed. I received an email saying I need to call them before I use my card to deal with a security issue. My call was taken by yet another clueless netspend operator. The guy told me I need to email them to find out why my account was closed. I hung up and quickly called back realizing how ridiculous that was.I was then told that my account was closed by corporate because i had a -60 cent balance. I rarely used my card and never kept money on it. I have done about 15 swaps in which i received netspend and would use it at the store and also at atms. I always left enough for any monthly feas as well. I knew the explanation sounded crap. I never got an email from them even saying my account was negative or I would have obviously rectified a 1 dollar deficit pretty quickly. I have swapped with many of the big traders on here and im sure thats what blocked it now. Im just they blocked everyones whos was connected. I dont know how much you guys have dealt with their customer service but it is the worst. It took me 2 weeks to activate my card. They kept saying they never received my verification forms. I would fax and email them multiple times a day. I finally got ahold of a supervisor who after answering some verification questions enabled my account.

What other options do we have that is safe? Would it be an issue if I use money packs on paypal for a few k a month?

My Netspend account is shut down also... I think everyone should get Vanillaprepaiddebit card you can load it with netspend reload card, or just with vanillareload card same thing as netpsend and paypal, paypal has prepaid debit card now that you use the same code as if you would for netspend and vanilla, I am so pissed with netspend they have 4k of my damn money I got from trading poker money, I thought my money was safe there but think again seem more safe on poker site than at netspend because they will not give one damn reason why they shut down my account. Like I said go to www.vanilladebitcard.com or vanillareload.com like I said it seems much more safe and you also can do trades between users on the webpage.

With so much trading with netspend or GDMP I am not surprised they shut down some accounts and I wouldnt be surprised if we hear more and more about cards being closed, it was a matter of time.
Same with BOA if they ever are able to tie users to poker (would be harder with BOA I realize, just saying...)
Are we going to be surprised if Lock does the same thing regarding player to player transfers? It is just a matter of time.
Eventually Lock will stop all player to player transfers because it is impossible for them to turn a blind eye to what is going on.
We KNOW it is a favor to the poker sites to create a virtual cashier that they have nothing to do with and costs them nothing. However, I suspect they will not see it that way and ban transfers.

In last few hours and not singling out anyone because these guys could be anyone but
Redeemlastknown sends $350 to FSU2010.
Then Redeemlastknown instantly posts want up to $1000 Lock.
FSU2010 shortly thereafter sells $400 Lock he just purchased for BOA deposit to OKCthunderfan.
Guys are buying and selling poker funds as way to make money and not as a way to move money off site or get it on and I think the end for everyone will be near.
Hell I couldnt survive playing without having this instant liquidity. My fear is this will come to an end making my playing pointless because if I can not have access to my money timely, I might as well not play at all. I think most winning US players are in the same boat.
Let's not act surprised when it happens or outraged. When the system is abused to such a degree, it almost forces action by the site.
We had a very clever way around the deposit and cashout issues for US players and I will hate to see it end.
Again the names could of been anyone who has seized the opportunity to make some easy money creating liquidity for us.
The names do not matter, I would of used player A transfers to B, etc but I wasnt smart enough or I am too tired to work it all out.

kingo, i think you raise some good points. the issue about not having access to your money quickly/within a reasonable time is a pokersite issue and also just due to the environment we're in these days. but even among the usa-facing sites there's a pretty wide spectrum of cashout speeds.

and yes, i agree with you there's a lot of blatant middleman-ing going on these days. when i'm bored i like to look up high-volume traders' screennames on ptr and sharkscope and it's funny how many of them aren't playing anywhere on any of the sites they deal with (don't some of the sites have playthrough requirements?). i also enjoy comparing the discrepancies in rates for buying and selling, and the differences in rates offered/mentioned between the internet poker xfer thread and the hsnl xfer thread.

i am not sure lock will get rid of p2p, just because they don't seem to really have a handle on their cashouts, and they could use the liquidity and rake. i do think it was one of the reasons that merge got rid of theirs (among other factors). bovada hasn't had them for a while, if ever, right? it will be interesting to see what wpn does regarding them.

all this is just my personal opinion btw.

I feel like the amount of trades done on here for netspend cant be that much of a dent of their business they notice. Are we really that much of a percent or are we just one of the groups that gets taken down because of red flags they have in their system. I know a few people ive traded with who have had their accounts banned as well. Maybe it spider webbed out and they just kept linking accounts after they got one person. The timing seems to indicate that more than just random people setting off red flags. I havent used my netspend for transactions in a few weeks so the timing was shocking.

Yup. My netspend account shut down too....

Is it true that if you use Chase QP, they freeze both sender/receiver's accounts and make them walk to their location??

and how many do I need to post to be able to use PM?
I have a couple of hundred dollars sitting on Lock Poker, but I almost never post on forum...

dont trade with mj2k he ripped me off and also RedeemLastKnown he also ripped me off just a heads up

I was contacted from both people on my pms then went to skype to set deal up. RedeemLastKnown showed he had proof he bought the gift card but never got a code. then just disapeared never wrote back or anything that was for 250 my lock for his 225 amazon. the second guy mj2k contacted me by pms then went to skype to finish deal and he sent me a code that was already used. and that was for 200 lock for his 200 amazon which should of set of bells in my head

RedeemLastKnown email is paulgoberjr@gmail.com and mj2k gerci77@gmail.com

i emailed Paul Gobert paulgoberjr@gmail.com thats where i shipped the 250 his skype name is Paul Gobert and the mj2k skype name is Michael Lingham I shipped to gerci77@gmail.com

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Edit/MH: See

Did you report this to a mod? You should also state a little more on the trade. Like amounts and screen names. You should also never trade till you post it in the p2p. That way people know there is a trade pending. A few times scammers get like 5 or 6 people because no one posted about pending trades till days later. If people saw they had a few trades pending it might result in one or two less people scammed. Which over time might be considerable.

Yes, people have to start posting pending trades.

Perhaps there should be a 2nd thread devoted to pending and confirmed trades. Would definitely help in wading through the P2P thread.

If there is any truth to these allegations, you should e-mail Security @ Lock, and PM imjustshane, here, immediately, before the recipients dump your money.

You should also post the SNs, e-mail addresses, amounts involved, and methods of contact by the alleged scammers, here.

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Edit: To which Lock accounts did you give your money? What were the two Skype addresses?

I couldn't agree more!

As described in this thread (a few pages ago) I was scammed by Five*. I didn't even think to post that a trade was being initiated or pending when I was sending him money. He then took that money and made a deal with someone through a PM.

It might not even have to be in its own thread, but it really needs to become standard practice for people, even for those who are making dozens of trades a day.

Now as you can see by the post by Mike you need to contact Lock and out sns.

I am not sure if you saw but obviously there were red flags with at least mj2k.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...stcount=130294

I don't know if the trade occurred before or after.

I emailed lock but i dnt see how they can help get my money back

thats very true.

They maybe able to transfer funds back if they still have them. Put it this way by not saying anything you get 0% back. If you say something you have at least a chance to get something back.

how'd that end up anyway, Shane had posted he freezed some accts. Were you able to recoup any of your money?

Is there anyway to confirm if I can accept Lock transfers? I am thinking about doing a p2p but am not sure if I can do it. Do I have to deposit first or confirm anything in my account first? I have had some issues on another network and would like to avoid the headache of support saying I can accept transfers when I can't. This happened to me on the Merge network before but I understand Revolution is obviously different.

If anyone has a definite answer please let me know thanks.

have you emailed them that question? I would think they would know

If you've been scammed, PM all details to Rainbow Warrior as well immediately

Security contacted me and it sounds like he already emptied his account.

I was able to discover his full name, address, and family members names (as well as phone numbers) though so I'm gonna start ruining his life in every way possible until he gives up and returns my money.

If that doesn't work I'll just go to the police.

(Yes "Five*", I know you're probably reading this from some other account you created)

why in the world did they freeze accts then i wonder...

don't use Chase QP or Paypal as they are reversible and thus scam-able. Never heard of the freeze/walk to location thing. Regular teller deposit works fine for Chase or other banks.

As often the case in these situations funds are transferred on several times before we are made aware of it. So in this case I was freezing accounts a long way down the chain and the funds become a puzzle that needs to be put back together.

When I spoke to the security manager tonight he was still investigating this case and trying to speak to all the players involved.


Every player can transfer, there are limits in place though. If you email me your details I can tell you exactly what your limits are. (Live chat support can give you this info too)

actually i assumed there was still hope for him getting his money back; his potential scammer still shows as only temp-banned & i figured the situation prob hadn't run its course yet; just didn't want to word it in a false "getting one's hopes up" kinda way. thx for staying on top of it for him, as i'm sure many have similar fears when trying to get $ on to enjoy playing.

Cheers,
John

**** **** - Shorewood, IL - scammer thief

2+2 - Five*

Accepted $900 in Lock poker funds - agreed to send $700 BOA deposit
Instead he traded the $900 Lock for his own BOA deposit

His family and friends should know where their xmas gifts are coming from.

Addresses, phone numbers and social media links are very easily found.