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01-19-2010 , 08:30 AM
Like others have said, this isn't poker, and doesn't look like something I'd want to play. I just hope it doesn't change the player pool in the ring games in a negative way. I doubt they will as they only seem to go up to 50NL.

Two things full tilt did "right" here:
  • Full hand histories are written to disk for all hands you are involved in.
  • They created a new category (Ring/MTT/SNG/Rush) and did not put these games in with the ring games.
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01-19-2010 , 08:31 AM
Only available for Micro and Low stakes ATM. Seems nitty too, Plr/Flp 20-30%.

Just noticed, you can play multiple rush poker - you join the same pool more than once and obviously won't ever be seated with yourself on the same table.
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01-19-2010 , 08:31 AM
But this is exactly what mass multitabler robots do anyway, except now they dont have to spend thousands for a ballar setup.
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01-19-2010 , 08:32 AM
it's fun as hell but it's not poker
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01-19-2010 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Respawn
No table dynamics.
No history with other players from previous hands.
No acquiring reads from seeing how others played their hands when you're not involved.
Not a game of poker anymore but a video game?

Not convinced that this is good at all.
this, especially video game part. Seems like uber ******ed idea
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01-19-2010 , 08:38 AM
Pro's

- Multitabling is easier, more hands per hour = more $$ per hour
- Fish can now multitable easily and lose money faster

Con's

- Fish can now multitable eassily and lose money faster - bad for longevity of poker in general
- We can't develop reads on a player because we can't take notes on him after the action
- A HUD can't work because we change tables after every hand and the HUD needs at least 1 hand to kick in, so as a bonus I can't use any of the reads I currently have
- It will be a complete nitfest because we can simply fold every hand we don't like before it's even our turn and immediatly get a new one, even the 100% VPIP fish can now nit it up
- We can't use ANYTHING complex such as table dynamics, reads, tilting players, etc, etc, so all we have to do is look at our cards and act accordlingy



Bad so far, add or takeaway from pro's or cons as you please.
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01-19-2010 , 08:38 AM
What do you think of it? Can you make better profit from rushpoker than normal cashgame?
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01-19-2010 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Strongsville
it's fun as hell but it's not poker
Yeah I'm playing now and it is indeed kinda fun. You just keep mashing quick fold until you get a pair and then it's set mining to it's finest. It does seem really easy so far. Just wait for premiums and pairs and get paid off.
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01-19-2010 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by finnianp
Pro's

- Multitabling is easier, more hands per hour = more $$ per hour
- Fish can now multitable easily and lose money faster

Con's

- Fish can now multitable eassily and lose money faster - bad for longevity of poker in general
- We can't develop reads on a player because we can't take notes on him after the action
- A HUD can't work because we change tables after every hand and the HUD needs at least 1 hand to kick in, so as a bonus I can't use any of the reads I currently have
- It will be a complete nitfest because we can simply fold every hand we don't like before it's even our turn and immediatly get a new one, even the 100% VPIP fish can now nit it up
- We can't use ANYTHING complex such as table dynamics, reads, tilting players, etc, etc, so all we have to do is look at our cards and act accordlingy



Bad so far, add or takeaway from pro's or cons as you please.
At first I thought, Yeah man I agree.

Then I realised why.

There's a quote button for a reason.
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01-19-2010 , 08:44 AM
I think it takes away from the hold game and makes a totally different game all together.It will make poker more luck based because It removes the the advantage of having reads and makes it more about the cards in your hand.It stinks and I don't like it.
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01-19-2010 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Lenny-T
At first I thought, Yeah man I agree.

Then I realised why.

There's a quote button for a reason.
Was just trying to compile a list of pro's and cons mentioned here, can't quote everyone.
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01-19-2010 , 08:45 AM
They should modify the rules so that as soon as you are moved you MUST mash the Max button.

This way they could maximize the rake, at least for a short time until the suckers went broke.
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01-19-2010 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by finnianp
Was just trying to compile a list of pro's and cons mentioned here, can't quote everyone.
NP, didn't mean to sound like an ass.
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01-19-2010 , 08:48 AM
um can you say super nit poker?

I dont care though, give me rush poker on stars and let me 24 table and i am in heaven
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01-19-2010 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gnalf
but the fish can now fold crap because they can get a new hand instantly.
this make make the game nittier and make it a blind stealing contest.
I was thinking the games would be quite aggressive (6max anyway). Every hand is like a hit-and-run.

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Seems like this will create a whole new breed of short stacking rakeback pros. How would this not be the best strategy?
Looks like it. In their advert vid, the buyin available was 50bb-200bb. Don't know if they are gonna offer Rush for the new 20bb-40bb tables, or what. Even at the 35bb-100bb tables, what would be the point of buying in for more than 35bb???
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01-19-2010 , 08:53 AM
Bloch, durrr and Lederer are playing in the 50NL! FR tho.
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01-19-2010 , 08:54 AM
I can't decide whether this is good or not. I think it will be super profitable in the short run before people start adapting. But can see it drying up fairly quick.

I wonder how easy it would be to break the most hands in a day record?
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01-19-2010 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AmonRaa
i mean wtf? This is not poker. Worst idea ever.
ok, tried it and i stand by my statement that its not poker, but its fun
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01-19-2010 , 08:56 AM
This now overtakes the superturbos as the crack cocaine of poker.
I played a few hands and didn't like that i couldn't stick around to see how a hand played out after i folded. I'm old fashioned that way.

Is this gong to catch on?
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01-19-2010 , 08:56 AM
*lol* "Poker" with absolutely no information about the opponents.
Poker in the dark. That's not poker.
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01-19-2010 , 08:57 AM
Pro's

- Multitabling is easier, more hands per hour = more $$ per hour
- Fish can now multitable easily and lose money faster
- Games might become more loose/aggressive? - Every hand becoming a hit and run type situation?

Con's

- Fish can now multitable eassily and lose money faster - bad for longevity of poker in general
- We can't develop reads on a player because we can't take notes on him after the action
- A HUD can't work because we change tables after every hand and the HUD needs at least 1 hand to kick in, so as a bonus I can't use any of the reads I currently have
- It will be a complete nitfest because we can simply fold every hand we don't like before it's even our turn and immediatly get a new one, even the 100% VPIP fish can now nit it up
- We can't use ANYTHING complex such as table dynamics, reads, tilting players, etc, etc, so all we have to do is look at our cards and act accordlingy



Bad so far, add or takeaway from pro's or cons as you please.
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01-19-2010 , 09:00 AM
Rakeback in RushPoker.. Anyone know if rakeback is working?

Thanks
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01-19-2010 , 09:05 AM
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Con's

- Fish can now multitable eassily and lose money faster - bad for longevity of poker in general
- We can't develop reads on a player because we can't take notes on him after the action
- A HUD can't work because we change tables after every hand and the HUD needs at least 1 hand to kick in, so as a bonus I can't use any of the reads I currently have
- It will be a complete nitfest because we can simply fold every hand we don't like before it's even our turn and immediatly get a new one, even the 100% VPIP fish can now nit it up
- We can't use ANYTHING complex such as table dynamics, reads, tilting players, etc, etc, so all we have to do is look at our cards and act accordlingy
Depends. If the player pool stays at around 200 players or less you'll eventually have notes/reads on many of the players and can play accordingly.
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01-19-2010 , 09:06 AM
And, how does the rake even work in this game? God, I hope it's not the same.

You know what, never mind my post. I don't even know anything about this game yet.
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01-19-2010 , 09:08 AM
All the fish are away from the ring games now. I hope this fad will fade and people return to the normal games.
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