can anyone explain the last paragraph of ppns terms? do ring game winnings require a playthrough to release funds

LOL at this fail site / thread / bad attitude of support reps

Influx of players? LOL

i don't see any stats in the tournament leaderboard page so i guess that means it won't run this month

Has anyone actually cashed out from PPN? I deposited $110 a couple months ago and as per their cashout policy (100% playthrough in rake paid) I don't see myself being able to withdraw anytime soon because of there being such little action. Just wondering if anyone has had luck getting money off this site.

i withdrew $200 a few months ago. it took less than 5 days by western union. It took until yesterday to approve my saturday request to withdraw $450. i haven't received my MTCN code to pick up the money yet but i expect i'll have it later today.

I had planned to withdraw $500 but i had only met the play through requirements for about $450 as the money was almost all the money was promotional winnings from freerolls and rake races.

I am averaging about 1000 hands per week mostly sitting at fixed limit tables until i get some action. If you are waiting for a NL holdem table with 5 or more players you will spend a lot of time waiting and only a little time playing.

There is a NL holdem guarantee tourneys that run almost every day. these are rebuy/add on tourneys with fees from 0.50 to 2.00. however, i don't know whether these satisfy the play through.

your ability to earn bonus by play through probably ended after 2 months. you can probably withdraw your original deposit but you may lose a significant percentage from the cost of withdrawing such a small amount. that means the whole thing was a loss. With luck you can play for a few weeks and double your money. you might even like it and decide to stay awhile.

Thanks for the information. MG and WU have a minimum withdrawal of 200 and i'm not quite there yet. I assume the other two aren't popular or don't work ? I've never heard of them but they do have a minimum of $50. Anyways, are you saying that I should be able to withdraw even though I haven't paid 100% in rake of my initial deposit? (assuming I reach the minimum withdrawal of $200). I am enjoying my stay here (aside from the low traffic) and plan to still keep some money on the site but would just like to know basically how easy it would be to get some money off. Thanks again for the information.

correction, i missed seeing the follow up email transmitting my MCTN code around 3 P.M. yesterday.

My net is $400

[QUOTE=mlo4sho;34107615] I assume the other two aren't popular or don't work ? I've never heard of them but they do have a minimum of $50. Anyways, are you saying that I should be able to withdraw even though I haven't paid 100% in rake of my initial deposit? QUOTE]

i am sure you cannot keep unearned deposit bonus or any freeroll money that has not met play through requirement. Just shoot an email off to support so you will know your status.

the person who replied lives on the site. i played for 1 hour with three players earned .10 cents on playthrough. good luck if your looking to get your money out in the next couple of years. doubt if they will be around

ps--- the nl holdem guarantee tourneys gives you nothing towards your playthrough. there working on it. WHAT A GREAT SITE

you have a good point. I guess you knew this by checking your rake statistics and saw no increase there in your rake contributed. Is that how you knew? or did you ask support?

If you paid 0.25 to the house to enter the tourney they should count that as as least 0.25 rake paid. At many sites it counts double.

i asked support, there answer was there working on it

PPN email support will probably just quote to you from the terms of service which i assume you have already read. My point is that you should not rely upon what i or anyone other than an official representative tells you.

can you withdraw your money your money before or after 60 days after making a deposit? they should just say so or say it aint so.

you may be under the impression that you get deposit bonus the moment you deposit it. that is not my experience. I got paid bonus in $5 increments as i earned it by play through. i don't think you ever forfeit earned bonus.

That is indeed the question and it looks like I should be finding out soon enough (within a couple of weeks anyway) as I am nearing the minimum withdrawal amount. Only then will I know for sure whether or not it will be a while until I can withdraw my money. Support says all conditions must be met on the withdrawal page under cashier (which mentions nothing about a playthrough) while the Terms & Conditions say otherwise. We shall see.

i was disappointed, as were the other 2 weekly rake race qualifiers, to have lost my winner take all match against chuck (PPNCEO). I think i would have been happy to win half the $50 prize for winning the race and have a chance, even if losing, to win the other half. Heck, i would be happy to be guarenteed $25 for winning the race with no chance for more.

It is fun to have a playoff against a pro and i do appreciate the novelty of the structure but it doesn't make sense to reward rake race winners with disappointment, let alone disappointment times three.

Of course i was elated to win the first place prize of $50 last week in a bad beat. Thanks chuck. Why not make us happy every week?

I'm guessing the players from the Everleaf skin(s) never arrived? Also does the HH replayer work for anyone else? I click it and nothing pops up. When I hover over the PPN icon on my taskbar I can see the HH window is open but when I click it doesn't bring anything up. Basically doesn't work.

EDIT: Also... What are the fees associated with a WU withdrawal? I see PPN charges $10 as a processing fee but how much does WU charge to receive money?

Still waiting on everleaf players

HH in the previous hand link at the table in holdem doesn't show you or tell you your cards but tells you what the winning hand was. It is functional in omaha and omaha hilo.

my experience is that WU takes nine percent, rounded to the dollar.

PPNCEO won 2 out of 3 heads up matches tonight. That means the weekly raked hands race has paid only $35 total for the last two weeks.

PPNCEO won 3 out of 3 heads up matches tonight. customer winnings equaled zero. That means the weekly raked hands race has paid only $35 total for the last three weeks. Let me do the math... I got zero prizes from the $30 rake I paid to win the race weeks in a row... what's wrong with this picture? It doesn't pay well to suck at poker.

The 2+2 Rep also seemed to have disappeared again for weeks in cyberspace.

Whats the deal with PPN? Are they even trying to improve things? I havent noticed any increase in traffic and I haven't seen a software update in ages. Also, as mentioned, the rep is nowhere to be found.

I have had extensive discussions with the developer on skype, i even participated in a dry run of a beta version.

There was an update a few days ago but i haven't noticed any differences in the site except that rounder's row now appears in the cashier page as another room, so i guess that is what the update is about. I'm told that everything is in place for their players to come on board, just waiting for them to take the leap.

I would guess there is a problem with RR getting the players money off of everleaf, which doesn't surprise me. It has been 8 months since everleaf shut out me and a bunch of other US players, tying up our money. For awhile they were paying those of us who could set up a non US bank account, but even that has slowed from what little information i have gathered from the little amount of time i have spent monitoring the everleaf where's our money thread. I wouldn't be surprised if everleaf lied to RR in promises about releasing their players funds.

So i would say PPN is trying, just not having much luck. there are about 20 players who play the daily freerolls and usually they get the 10 players needed for the guarantee/rebuy tourneys that run at about the same time. cash game play is only slightly more steady than before, if steady is the right word for hit or miss traffic.

Well, there've been a lot of negative feelings when talking about PPN but I have to express my satisfaction regarding my first withdrawal. I had the money in 4 days from when I requested. That's quicker than any other U.S. site I've played on (aside from one) so I'm happy about that. The fees were a bit steep - $20 WU fee and $10 processing fee from PPN but I have my money so I'm not going to complain. Also, I didn't have to play through my entire intial deposit as listed in the Terms & Conditions so I'm happy about that as well. That's a good sign so I will continue to give PPN my business in hopes for future improvement.

glad your happy getting your money after they took 15% of your payout. but before you praise this site any further, you should check to see if they are giving you credit on your rake hands, played the other day checked my stats and saw 5 raked hands only got credit for 2. talked to live support and they agreed that i played a heads up hand with a 25 cent rake and i received no credit. but they had to check with IT to see if there was a problem. how does live support use the word (IF) in there response. this is the most corrupt site i have ever played on and be glad you got your money and run quickly away from this site.

having hundreds locked up on everleaf/minted poker I certainly wouldn't call it the most corrupt site I have ever played on.