Update on my previous post - item was actually delivered today after my post. It is an iPod Nano, however the version they sent is the newest and the photo in the store is of the smaller, previous version that has a higher value. Not a huge deal just FYI as you may want to update that.

While I might not specifically request a hand to be tabled in a live setting (internet poker =/= live poker), I still have the right regardless to ask the dealer to showdown the hand (who cares if i make new friends with people i'll never see again). In a live setting at a river showdown if my opponent bets and I call, I can sit and wait to showdown my hand until the dealer tables the bettors hand.

No other major online poker room does this. It also does not seem to be a popular 'feature' that other rooms are following / using to attract new players / customers. I am sure it has some benefits like protecting fish over a larger sample, or helping disguise a range by hiding whether some bets / showdowns were bluffs and others were thin value. However, if it were a 'great feature' that was more liked than disliked, you can bet that other competitors would adopt similar models. (Just like rush poker turned into zoom and into other similar pool player instant fold type poker)

These benefits do not outweigh the negatives. First of all the impact it has on one's own ability to make reads and judge opponent ranges is greatly reduced. It also reduces / eliminates the ability for players to do 'private investigations'. For quite some time, community policing in the internet poker community has been important. Especially for smaller sites with less reputability that Pokerstars. Consdier AP poker scandals, girah scandals, UB scandals. Several of these cases were resolved with statistical analysis of hands that made it to showdown, including hands that would be mucked on WPN. Bot rings, collusion, superusers, etc have been suspected and reported on many networks as i'm sure you know. Hiding mucked cards is just one less piece of information that can be used to uncover scandals like these.

I am sure there are more benefits that I can't think of now.

Thank you for the suggestion. I only play non BBJ / Beast tables and have done so since switching over to WPN from Merge with BCP. You can see me most of the time STARTING micro 6-max tables (nl5-nl25) waiting on 2-8 tables by myself not sitting out waiting for action. Most of the time this ends up as maybe 1 table full of players at 6max and maybe 1 HU match at a 6max table that ends up lasting 150+ hands. I have not once played a single hand at WPN BBJ / Beast tables. All of my action is non Beast as per your suggestion... As of right now there are 10 nl25 6max BBJ tables full / running right now on WPN, and there is 1 nl25 6max non-bbj with 3 players running (one of which is me). I am sitting on 4 tables 2 nl25, one by myself, one with 2 other players, and 2 nl10 tables both by myself. Just 'creating more action at non Beast tables' doesn't seem to be working...

BCP PLEASE IMPLEMENT PREFERRED SEATING

This..

I've noticed this software getting more and more buggy lately. Tables and alerts not popping up. There is also a lag issue going on as well. I clicked the Extra Time button ~2 seconds before my time ran out and it never registered that I clicked it and it mucked my hand in a large pot. Everything is just getting worse.

Thank you for fixing the REBUY issue.
I would have to call the first hand and fold just so i could rebuy early for a dbl stack because you couldnt RB with a full start stack.
Now you can.TY

We need more people playing non BBJ / The beast tables. It's really a no-win for the majority of players losing that much out of each pot. How do I start non-bbj/ beast tables just so I know for future reference?

Also we need to continue to educate the players on this topic. Consider myself converted.

can you check hh of a husng after the player mucked his hand? pls help!

Is the Rakeback late?

no u can not

I recieved rakeback just a little late today, but it arrived. Should be there by now.

Its fairly simple, just sit at your preferred limit at tables that are NOT highlighted blue in lobby. Empty tables are listed by default at the bottom of the lobby list if you wish to start new ones. A new empty table of your created table type appears once you sit at an empty table of that type.

Unfortunately most of the tables are predominantly blue, which are of course bbj/beast tables. This is where it gets fuzzy. As support will tell you they do not create any unbalance among the tables, they let the 'customer decide' so to speak. By default each table type starts with just 1 open table in lobby. As stated before once a player sits at this open table type a new table type of the same kind will be created (Tantalite (JP) - 2 , for example)

As of right now on the network the default is to list JP games that have players, followed by non JP games with players, followed by empty JP tables, followed by empty non JP tables. I think this most likely leads weaker players to join the JP tables much more often than the non JP. First of all weaker players rarely start tables. Secondly out of convenience someone who is weaker will likely have little to no table selection and will often choose the first table that appears for their desired limit. Third, simply because its highlighted and glitzy attracts uneducated players who may know there is a chance to hit a big jackpot payout, but don't understand how much is actually raked in addition to regular tables.

So why don't more regulars start non JP tables and try to balance out the top heavy BBJ/Beast tables? There are a few reasons I can think of with a little less importance. First lower ability / confidence in short handed and heads up scenarios for example. Second simply being put off by waiting too long for action and getting up to 4 tables at most at desired limit. But I think the most important reason why is the vast majority of regular winners on WPN have become multitable Beast / Rakeback grinders. These players are putting in the most volume, starting the most tables, and playing the most hands they can on JP tables to accumulate points. They may join a non JP table from time to time for more volume against fishy players, but they rarely start them. The winning players who are not grinding the JP tables are few and far between.

Simply put there are more regulars grinding beast, starting more tables, and putting in more hands than non beast grinders. This causes a big imbalance in the number of beast/bbj games compared to non beast/bbj games. Which perpetuates itself by getting most of the volume on the site on the beast/bbj tables. There is very little volume to 'grind' non JP tables, and if your gonna grind JP tables for volume, might as well maximize your profit by focussing on rake race points.

Can someone help me please? I try to install bcp after uninstalling it a few months ago and on startup it says bcp is already installed would I like to uninstall it then it freezes. Ive scanned my comp and cannot find anything related to bcp. plz help!

Just an update on my situation. BCP sent me another check for the first dishonored one. The replacement check bounced also, but at least it did so immediately this time instead of having phantom money in my checking account. Currently waiting for the bank to send BCP a "clear copy of the bounce check so we can proceed with a refund of your poker account."

So currently, my cashout is at about 5 months and counting...

i just re installed BCP on my comp be cause PT4 wasnt recognizing it due to a OS change to win7....
Long story short...IT took a really long time to install.It did look like it froze but it didnt.
Try just letting it go for a while and see if it installs after a while.

sorry to hear that.

That has NEVER happened to me.Always on time and easy from BCP.
My only gripe is the software

I hope I don't have to worry about this when I get the check I am waiting on.

Black Chip Continues to have inaccurate information on the tournament pages, saying addon available after "level 8" and it will be "level 12".

That's my only complaint.

I get some lag lately, but usually doesn't effect game play.

This affects every skin. It's a software issue. We're all eagerly awaiting new software...


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Hey guys I just want to know what are the positives about the site?

I deposit a few hundreds of dollars the other day just to give this site a shot and so far there isnt that many positive about the site other than the cashouts.

Positive: Cashouts

Negatives:
-Traffic is kinda low.

-Most that play are Americans and I assume they only play because of fast cashout time.

-Rake is high, epecially the only tables I see are Jackpot tables, if you win thats awesome, but most of the time you're not and will be paying way to much rake.

-Way to little tours, most of them are like 500$ guarantee, except the nightly tour.

Is this a site for grinders that want to make some money? not necessarily for a living but just to make some many?

What are you guys thoughts on this?

Just for the heel of it gonna mention the latest software fkup, that I see several others besides myself have noted.

Lately, and the problem seems to be increasing daily, it is a hassle to even register for a tournament. It seems if the lobby has been on for a bit, it will suddenly not let you register for any tournament and you must shut down the whole client and re-start just to register. Just now, for the first time, I registered for one Satellite, then just 10 min later it would not let me register for the MTT I wanted to play without closing the client once again.

The last two weeks or so, if I go to take a walk, take a shower, etc, and leave the client on, when I come back I will not to be able to register in MTTs.

Also, it has a special love for the 6r's. It seems a few minutes before almost every 6r, there is some type of 'lock up' that will not let anyone register in the MTT, and it does not start for a few minutes past the scheduled time (sometimes up to 10 minutes). Once it starts up, the 'lock up' has disappeared and then you can register for the tournament again.

How's the hyper hu action from 50s-200? Thanks.

Not so much

http://vvcap.net/db/usYvA5HhIMaykFluzw5M.htp


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Kahn

Anyone have an issue with PT4 not working on a few tables after you're an hour or more into your session? Sometimes it's like 2 guys that don't have the hud show up, sometimes it's the whole table.

yea PT4 gets a lil buggy for me too on BCP.idk why though.
sometimes i get a 9 mx layout over my 6 max table and vice versa.
sometimes 1-2 players have no HUD.

no clue.
Mostly when on 6+ tables