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ROM Amnesty, you sir an idiot. Thanks for asking for higher rake in the negotiationthread btw, enjoy your movies while playing like a braindead CAPzombie.

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02-05-2012 , 02:13 PM

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krmont22

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Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty

The fish comment is negligible, unless the multi-tabler in question is Prairie Hawk.

You are entitled to that opinion, but I think when you get a table with a majority of 24 tablers, fish leave out of frustration a lot more than you may notice.

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02-05-2012 , 02:23 PM

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ment52

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VPP leaderboard please? (an asterisk for the guys with a head start would be cool too)

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02-05-2012 , 02:26 PM

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ROM Amnesty

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Originally Posted by Bruut99

ROM Amnesty, you sir an idiot. Thanks for asking for higher rake in the negotiationthread btw, enjoy your movies while playing like a brainddead CAPzombie.

lol.

I was in favour of a rake decrease (obviously.) I spent a lot of time demonstrating that it alone would not be sufficient for the high volume players.

I don't play CAP btw, but I will enjoy watching that porno of your missus again. I love fat birds.

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02-05-2012 , 02:41 PM

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Reckless_Abandon

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Originally Posted by krmont22

I 24 tabled NLH for two years getting SNE 3/4 (can't recall atm) times total. I also just recently 20 tabled PLO, getting SNE in 4.5 months last year. On the timing thing done by Stars, I act 1 second faster than the average player on Stars on my decisions.

do you tile?

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02-05-2012 , 03:23 PM

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krmont22

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Originally Posted by Reckless_Abandon

do you tile?

Yes

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02-05-2012 , 03:25 PM

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Reckless_Abandon

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Originally Posted by krmont22

Yes

I may have to start tiling because of this. I think preclicking fold makes a huge difference with average speed to act.

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02-05-2012 , 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reckless_Abandon

I may have to start tiling because of this. I think preclicking fold makes a huge difference with average speed to act.

Yes I tend to scan rapidly for hands I know I am folding preflop while thinking about major calls/bluffs/etc. I have never been able to stack in anyway.

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02-05-2012 , 04:24 PM

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Gramps

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Originally Posted by Reckless_Abandon

I may have to start tiling because of this. I think preclicking fold makes a huge difference with average speed to act.

Ding-ding-ding. Having an advance action fold key and being able to use it is going to be huge, even for people who do some hybrid of stack and tile. Even if it's just for, say, 20-25% of hands.

Having to wait for every single table to pop up in turn before you fold has gotta really hurt an average time to act.

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02-05-2012 , 04:35 PM

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Ifloattheflop

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Full ring or 6 max? Because 24 tabling at full ring is very easy and 24 tabling 6 max is very hard (I can't do more than 21 at 6 max).

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02-05-2012 , 04:58 PM

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The time to act stuff you are talking about isn't going to affect hyper turbo satellites is it? We have already had our time to act cut down a drastic amount compared to other formats.

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02-05-2012 , 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by krmont22

You are entitled to that opinion, but I think when you get a table with a majority of 24 tablers, fish leave out of frustration a lot more than you may notice.

How would he notice anyway? He admits he isn't paying fully attention, plays 24 tables, and has other forms of entertainment on so he can play longer because he plays a boring style of poker.

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02-05-2012 , 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat

The time to act stuff you are talking about isn't going to affect hyper turbo satellites is it? We have already had our time to act cut down a drastic amount compared to other formats.

I don't think so, but I can't say for sure.

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02-05-2012 , 05:35 PM

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ROM Amnesty

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Originally Posted by Birdseye

How would he notice anyway? He admits he isn't paying fully attention, plays 24 tables, and has other forms of entertainment on so he can play longer because he plays a boring style of poker.

To clarify, not paying full attention doesn't mean someone isn't still paying a lot of attention. I'm well aware of how many fish I have at every one of my 24 tables, and I notice quickly if one of my tables loses it's fish.

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02-05-2012 , 05:38 PM

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ROM Amnesty

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Originally Posted by krmont22

Better focus and less time also leads to fish staying at your tables and higher hands/hour.

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Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty

The fish comment is negligible, unless the multi-tabler in question is Prairie Hawk.

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Originally Posted by krmont22

You are entitled to that opinion, but I think when you get a table with a majority of 24 tablers, fish leave out of frustration a lot more than you may notice.

I understand that, and I agree. My comment was in response to the suggestion that if I personally had "better focus" then fish at my tables would stay around longer.

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02-05-2012 , 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty

I understand that, and I agree. My comment was in response to the suggestion that if I personally had "better focus" then fish at my tables would stay around longer.

Part of focus is the ability to act faster. You admit that you are not at full speed, therefore the tables could be faster. You also admit fish are more likely to stay if the game is faster, so...?

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02-05-2012 , 06:02 PM

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I just want to say that increasing the number of tables allowed would be VERY BAD for the games.. we want the games to be faster, we want fewer nitty reg-zombies playing a gazillion tables.

In other words, we want tables to be faster, less reg-infested, and looser.

I'd prefer table limit to be decreased to 20 while rake reduced tbh.

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02-05-2012 , 06:03 PM

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Eliminate the VIP program, cut rake in half, lower table count to 4, and end HU tables

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02-05-2012 , 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdseye

Part of focus is the ability to act faster. You admit that you are not at full speed, therefore the tables could be faster. You also admit fish are more likely to stay if the game is faster, so...?

All mega-tablers could act faster. Some are fast players who could act a fraction of a second faster. Some are very slow, and take far longer than is acceptable.

It's those very slow players who are the ones who may cause fish to leave tables.

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02-05-2012 , 06:11 PM

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I think there would be a bigger **** storm than the one from Dealt to WC if they reduced tables this year, mid-year. I think they realize that and won't make a change until the end of the year to give people a time to plan...but you know it is Pokerstars, so you never know.

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02-05-2012 , 06:18 PM

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ROM Amnesty

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Originally Posted by overrdose.

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve

Yes, the current plan is to review monthly, and caps are unlikely to get nerfed from 24 to 14 all at once and not at all without a warning and a month to sped up. A warning and a reduction from 24 to 20 a month later, for example, is much more likely.

None of this is final; I will post prior to taking any actions.

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02-05-2012 , 06:26 PM

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Ice Minus

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Originally Posted by krmont22

Eliminate the VIP program, cut rake in half, lower table count to 4, and end HU tables

two outta four ain't bad

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02-05-2012 , 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha 5.20

Why is that everybody wants to reduce the timebank?

I dont play that many tables but I like to have time to think about my decisions here and there. The fast tables are already too fast in my opinion, and I hate them.

I dont get all the talking going on in this thread.

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02-05-2012 , 06:40 PM

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One of the largest complaints is slow players at tables. When you are 1 tabling and the same guy takes 15 seconds on every single action and there are 3 or 4 clones of him around you, it can be pretty tilting.

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02-05-2012 , 07:46 PM

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Birdseye

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Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty

You notice it glaringly when one player amounts for a lot of time, but if a group of 4 regs each take a small amount of time, it can add up to the very slow guy or worse.

Think of it like a water shortage. If we all pitch in, it makes a big difference, in our case fish get faster tables. If we stay the same and only complain about the very slow guy, not much changes. Each individual has an impact.

Also, perhaps you should consider loosening up and turning the TV off. It might make the game entertaining enough for you to stay focused for much longer.

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