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01-20-2012 , 04:44 AM
what vpp rate is everyone getting at 100NL? im getting .292 playing 18/12
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01-20-2012 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by voltastyllo
what vpp rate is everyone getting at 100NL? im getting .292 playing 18/12
Raise more innit!
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01-20-2012 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tbmunson
I was planning on making a push for sne this year but having run 28k below ev over my first 40k hands ( 3/6 -10/20 cap ) I'm having second thoughts.
The fact that I ran 180k below ev over the previous two years makes It all the more difficult to swallow.
Anyone beating me in the runbad? Misery loves company.
wow i thought i was unlucky running near 20k under at the end of 2011. that is so sick.
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01-20-2012 , 10:58 AM
How is everyone doing? I'm at 63k on pace for my goal.
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01-20-2012 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tbmunson
I was planning on making a push for sne this year but having run 28k below ev over my first 40k hands ( 3/6 -10/20 cap ) I'm having second thoughts.
The fact that I ran 180k below ev over the previous two years makes It all the more difficult to swallow.
Anyone beating me in the runbad? Misery loves company.
You might be cursed. Time for a new career.
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01-20-2012 , 12:27 PM
Anyone have an estimate of how many SNEs are primarily cash game players vs. how many are Sit-n-go/tourney players?
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01-20-2012 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kingc11
hi badblood1

Ive played with you alot. I made sne for the first time in 2011 playing .50-1 and 1-2plo. Anywhere around 22/17 is alot tougher. I am finding it very difficult this year.

Is anyone playing 26/21 or 30/20ish finding it to be the same? Are u earning same vpp/hand as last year but getting raked more? thx.
getting a little better than 1-1 on vpps/hand at 30/20...but also playing about half 1/2 and half 2/4
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01-21-2012 , 06:10 AM
word to Steve :

Tell your ppl that we (Supernova and Supernova Elite) also Rec. Players like Happy Hours so much ...thank you.


so do something to extend this to the upcoming months
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01-21-2012 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gNt
word to Steve :

Tell your ppl that we (Supernova and Supernova Elite) also Rec. Players like Happy Hours so much ...thank you.


so do something to extend this to the upcoming months
I emailed stars last week to support them keep doing it, we should all :P
This is true best thing ever :P
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01-21-2012 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by drakx999
I emailed stars last week to support them keep doing it, we should all :P
This is true best thing ever :P
I emailed them too. And yes we should do it as a whole to get our voices heard.
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01-21-2012 , 10:50 PM
wow this thread is dead
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01-21-2012 , 11:06 PM
11K. Back to the grind tomorrow.
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01-21-2012 , 11:28 PM
Happy hours should be included for SNGs also imo
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01-22-2012 , 01:30 AM
Agree, also haven't heard why sngs should be discrimated once again but w/e

10% done tho!
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01-22-2012 , 01:32 AM
Players meeting tomorrow. A lot of people going to be changing sites/splitting time if it doesn't go well IMO.

Happy hour is awesome btw. Would awesome if it was 2 hours but at this point anything is good compared to the norm.
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01-22-2012 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
Agree, also haven't heard why sngs should be discrimated once again but w/e

10% done tho!
Probably because cash game players just lost 10-25% of vpp rate? Just be glad they havn't changed anything in SNGs.
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01-22-2012 , 01:33 AM
What is the best possible outcome of the player meeting?
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01-22-2012 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by overrdose.
Probably because cash game players just lost 10-25% of vpp rate? Just be glad they havn't changed anything in SNGs.
Nope, nothing's changed. Rake is still too high across the board when you compare them to other tournaments ($/time played), and we only get 5.5 VPP for every $ in rake we actually pay.

Last edited by Gramps; 01-22-2012 at 02:25 AM. Reason: Not Stars-based, it's all sites on the non-VPP thing
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01-22-2012 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by overrdose.
Probably because cash game players just lost 10-25% of vpp rate? Just be glad they havn't changed anything in SNGs.
They changed many things a while back but cash players didn't care because it didn't affect them.
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01-22-2012 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rzweig
What is the best possible outcome of the player meeting?
double vpp year!

seriously though, noone really knows but the best thing to look at afaik is what happened on pokerstars.fr. i believe the .com players are far better compared, but we will have to wait and see:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=12
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01-22-2012 , 04:02 AM
GBP cash games would be nice
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01-22-2012 , 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by overrdose.
Probably because cash game players just lost 10-25% of vpp rate? Just be glad they havn't changed anything in SNGs.
Lost 20% for benefiting for rake you were not paying. We earn all our vpps by paying every cent of rake in sngs. Overly raked sngs at that. 6x would be nice too but hey we don't get that either. Oh well!
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01-22-2012 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rzweig
What is the best possible outcome of the player meeting?
It is not in our best interests to publicly discuss this question for fairly obvious reasons.
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01-22-2012 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by waxdabox
Lost 20% for benefiting for rake you were not paying. We earn all our vpps by paying every cent of rake in sngs. Overly raked sngs at that. 6x would be nice too but hey we don't get that either. Oh well!
cash games get 5.5x too, only FR gets 6x which is a very small majority and if you look at other sites there are barely any FR tables above 100nl so it's ok as it is.
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01-22-2012 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rzweig
What is the best possible outcome of the player meeting?
We come to an agreement that leaves both PokerStars and the 2p2 community united and happy again.
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