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05-07-2011 , 10:36 PM
Are you SNE DonJuan?
05-07-2011 , 10:41 PM
Yes. I wouldn't move here if it weren't for the 120k year job
05-07-2011 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
I wish that was all I need. Just got a call from stars saying I need to go to embassy and get an approve stamp saying I am a permanent resident. Plus a utility bill and bank statement. Does anyone else need those requirement? Also what should I tell the embassy?

edit: stars reject a local police station stamp saying that i am staying here.
You should have a blue resident book for where you are living. Take that with you to open a bank account. I would suggest the international bank on Dong Khoi and Nguyen Du. You will need to open a Euro account. Pokerstars will not wire usd to Vietnam. I think you need E200 to open an account. Get the bank to print you out a statement with your Vietnamese address.

I am not sure about the embassy. I have been here for 4 years and didnt need embassy verification. Maybe they are stricter now. To get anything notarized at the embassy is 30 dollars. They only take usd and credit cards.
monday - thursday i think they close at 11am. maybe 1130. they dont open after lunch.

make sure you get a good internet connection. the internet is pretty ****ty here. i use VNPT and pay about 1 million a month.

PM me if you need any more details.

GL
05-07-2011 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
Can someone from stars make an official post on these requirements? As I think it would totally be unfair for me to need a citizenship of the country I am staying in in order to play and other don't.
Yeah they really need to be clearer and communicate with the players better.

I've been struggling all day with security/verification and their responses and inconsistency from player to player has been frustrating to say the least. I'll spare the details of my struggle but suffice to say it's been very unStars like. I will say they have been very quick to answer all my emails, so props there at least.

The bottom line is most of us relocating want to start playing immediately. As a result a lot of don't have bank statement and utility bills yet. So what we need communicated to us is what's acceptable/attainable in place of those things. I realize Stars doesn't have all the answers but they could at least communicate what they have been accepting in lieu of the bank statement/utility bill.
05-08-2011 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
Yes. I wouldn't move here if it weren't for the 120k year job
You should just use the last of your money and move to thailand, it will take you 1 day to get whatever you need from an embassy. Maybe stars isnt used to vietnam, i have never seen one grinder from there.
05-08-2011 , 02:33 AM
Sigh so guess I'm going to miss day 1 at least of scoop it seems? Steve I've PMed you but your PM box might be pretty full atm so if you see this when scoop starts and can do something please help! Thanks.
05-08-2011 , 03:08 AM
Finding a good place in the Vancouver area is tough. Do you guys know of any good resources other than craigslist? Is there a way to hire a rental agent?
05-08-2011 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ok?
You should just use the last of your money and move to thailand, it will take you 1 day to get whatever you need from an embassy. Maybe stars isnt used to vietnam, i have never seen one grinder from there.
At first vietnam wasn't even in my mind. It was either thailand, canada, or one of the carribean island. However being vietnamese and having family in vietnam I thought it would be an easier transition. Having only been here for 2 weeks I love it here. I guess I kind of rush it here and want to play right away.

Things that stars ask for like utility bill take atleast a month to get due to having to put your name on it and waiting for beginning of the month to recieve statement. Stars need to make an official statement to let us know what is acceptable or not. I want to know if insurance is acceptable for utility since that I can get that right away. It just been a long process for me even though I am one of the first person to jump ship and willing to move across the world right away. It doesn't help that I get a call telling me I need to go to embassy to get a permanant residence stamp basically telling me I need to apply for citizenship.

Also the guy I talk to told me my local police stamp stating that I reside at this house wasn't approve because " it easy to get a local police stamp and everyone can get one without actually staying there".

Last edited by DonJuan; 05-08-2011 at 03:25 AM.
05-08-2011 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Reckless_Abandon
Finding a good place in the Vancouver area is tough. Do you guys know of any good resources other than craigslist? Is there a way to hire a rental agent?
http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/
05-08-2011 , 09:28 AM
Also living in Vietnam. Have been here for 4 months. I tried opening an account with HSBC first and they required an ID card which I didn't have. They also told me I could never have more than $8K (or $7K - can't remember exactly) in my account. They also said I'd be required to show a work contract for where my money is coming from for regular deposits. I'm not sure what a withdrawal from a poker site would be classified as and whether I'd be required to show a work contract for it and/or whether it might be subject to Vietnamese taxes. Does anyone know the answers to this?

Anyway, after HSBC wouldn't open an account without an ID card, I tried ANZ. They were very easy. I only needed to show my passport. They also said there were no limits on the amount I could have in my account as HSBC had. They didn't mention anything about needing work contracts (but that doesn't mean they may not be required at some point).

Before April 15th, Stars would put my cashouts to my US bank on hold saying they know I'm playing from Vietnam so why am I cashing out to the States. Now they refuse to believe I'm in Vietnam. Getting really frustrated with them. They seem to have a blanket set of requirements for every country assuming every country is just like the US not seeming to realize there might be a slight difference between the States and a 3rd world communist country.
05-08-2011 , 10:11 AM
DonJuan.

I dont know if you're a winner pre-sne but have you thought about the games you'll be playing in? Vietnam right now has terrible hours. If you play in the morning, after 11am, you won't have much of anything running at 1/2 and up (just a little fish). And most of the uber crazy over aggro regs who are losing even with rakeback are going to be around making it a pain in the ass. If you play in afternoon, the site is dead.. Every single site is dead.
At night, you will have "daytime euro" so pretty terrible.. everysite is reg infested.. very few fish. That leaves.. midnight to 5am. Pretty crappy life especially with a family.

It was good before we lost the americans though.
05-08-2011 , 10:43 AM
I don't mind I can adapt to whatever environment. When I decided to move here I already know that I probably will have to play 10 pm -5 am in the morning. Also the fact that I will switch to either nl or plo as my days of 24 tabling FR limit are gone. I love this lifestyle that why I was willing to move and I put enough faith in stars being able to sort everything out. Although it is a frustrating process there no doubt it in mind that I will be able to play on stars again.
05-08-2011 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by piranha
Yeah they really need to be clearer and communicate with the players better.

I've been struggling all day with security/verification and their responses and inconsistency from player to player has been frustrating to say the least. I'll spare the details of my struggle but suffice to say it's been very unStars like. I will say they have been very quick to answer all my emails, so props there at least.

The bottom line is most of us relocating want to start playing immediately. As a result a lot of don't have bank statement and utility bills yet. So what we need communicated to us is what's acceptable/attainable in place of those things. I realize Stars doesn't have all the answers but they could at least communicate what they have been accepting in lieu of the bank statement/utility bill.
So stars isn't accepting the voided check like I had? One thing i didn't mention cuz i thought it was irrelevant, I did include a starter check with my other docs....so u may want to try that also.
05-08-2011 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nlnut
So stars isn't accepting the voided check like I had? One thing i didn't mention cuz i thought it was irrelevant, I did include a starter check with my other docs....so u may want to try that also.
They actually did not accept it. Mine was not worded with anything, just a copy of a voided check with my name and address on it. They told me I needed a bank stamp on it which I went to the bank and got and they again told me it wasn't acceptable.

After about 10 emails back and forth I finally got them to agree to accepting the same document, worded exactly the way your doc was worded, stamped, and signed by a manager. The bank is closed but I'm going first thing tomorrow to get it.

I even sent them the link to the copy of your document and they said that wasn't acceptable. So, I don't know if it was the combination of what you sent that was acceptable or the other utility bill you sent or what.

It's been frustrating but at least they've agreed to accept something very specific this time and I'm confident the bank will give it to me.

Thanks a lot for sharing your information too.
05-08-2011 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by piranha
Someone else already mentioned this but to reiterate:

Tell them the truth.

My wife and I were detained and questioned today at the Vancouver border entrance because our story was suspicious. I immediately came clean with exactly everything I was doing in detail and they said there's absolutely no problem with that. They've had so many poker players come through that they immediately suspected that with me.

They were concerned that I'd have enough money to support myself. I had a cashier's check for 6K and about 1500 in cash and this wasn't enough. Fortunately, I had saved an atm receipt from the day before and showed that to them as proof.

Just tell em the truth and show up with a large cashier's check, bank statement, or atm receipt and you're good to go.

Note: I told them I'm staying for 4 months. They didn't stamp my visa with any specific date so I can stay here up to 6 months.
What constitutes large?
05-08-2011 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hodge05
What constitutes large?
Bout tree fiddy
05-08-2011 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hodge05
What constitutes large?
Good question, I really don't know other than they weren't satisfied with the ~7500 we had on us for 4 months and were satisfied with an atm receipt that showed ~70K.

I now think a cashier's check is a mistake. As someone pointed out earlier they take at least 15 days to clear - at the bank I signed up with it's 30 days.
So traveler's checks would work much better if you go that route. I think a statement or atm receipt would suffice though.
05-08-2011 , 01:32 PM
My guess is they just want proof that u can support yourself for the entire 6 months so if we are being conservative, rent+food+utlities+misc probably equals $3000 for a month*6=$18000 so lets just say $20000. If you have more than that, I would imagine that you are good. $15000 probably ok. Anything less and no go. Sound about right?
05-08-2011 , 01:37 PM
WSOP ME is July 2.
05-08-2011 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePreacherJesse
WSOP ME is July 2.
source?
05-08-2011 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hodge05
My guess is they just want proof that u can support yourself for the entire 6 months so if we are being conservative, rent+food+utlities+misc probably equals $3000 for a month*6=$18000 so lets just say $20000. If you have more than that, I would imagine that you are good. $15000 probably ok. Anything less and no go. Sound about right?
I think so. I think the border patrol is correctly assuming that poker players need more money to live on and have a higher risk of going broke than normal people. The BP agent wanted to know how long I had been playing, how much success I'd had - we even got into a lengthy discussion about counting cards in blackjack. Basically he wanted to be sure I was a "professional" gambler and not just some guy taking a shot with a limited amount of money that could potentially get stuck in Canada. Having a place in the US helps too.

Their primary concern is that you leave Canada after the six months and don't get stuck here with no money and no job. And the more incentive (house, family, etc.) you have to go back, the better off. They never asked for it but I had a copy of the title to our house in my car.
05-08-2011 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gobby888
source?
WSOP.com says the ME starts July 7.
05-08-2011 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
I don't mind I can adapt to whatever environment. When I decided to move here I already know that I probably will have to play 10 pm -5 am in the morning. Also the fact that I will switch to either nl or plo as my days of 24 tabling FR limit are gone. I love this lifestyle that why I was willing to move and I put enough faith in stars being able to sort everything out. Although it is a frustrating process there no doubt it in mind that I will be able to play on stars again.
If your plan is to leave your country and switch to nl or plo from limit holdem I think your destined for failure, gl tho.
05-08-2011 , 05:06 PM
srry i opened that same page and just misread it.
05-08-2011 , 06:54 PM
Many SNE and high volume Supernova players have had their relocation changes approved today. Thank you all for your patience.

      
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