I saw this one live, can't for the life of me figure out why YOU of all people would think this is a solid promotion

wow you're planning on doing a bunch in December? gl with that

I thought November was the new December for this.

Thx

Will be a busy October/November & December :-) Since I'm looking forward to the PCA I think I can't care less it's December.

ok, I've heard a lot of the 'horror' of playing in December. can anyone explain what it is? Is it a 'slowdown' or maybe so many regs that are grinding out those last VPPs that the games are extra tough?

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Michael--I'm responding to your post, but I'm not targeting you specifically. I'm very concerned about all the posts in this thread which advocate the use of an energy drink or other performance enhancers while playing poker.

--Full disclosure: I have ADD, and I take one Adderall (20 mg) per day. I have a perscription. My wife thought that I had ADD. A psychologist, without knowing what my wife said, stated that he thought I had ADD. My family doctor confirmed his diagnosis.--

Depending on an energy drink for a boost, or to help you get through a poker session, is a very bad idea. I've watched many of the energy drink commercials, and they have it backwards.

In one commercial the actor says that he takes a drink so that he will have energy to run, ride a bike, or whatever. As a runner with one marathon and numerous shorter races under my belt, I always had the silly idea that one of the benefits of exercise was to have better health and more energy.

I don't use any substance for energy beyond normal nutritional needs. I take adderall for my ADD, but it's an 8-hour dose once a day. I play poker online at various times throughout the day, so I'm certainly not depending on a drug or any kind of artifical "boost" to play poker. I don't drink coffee. I get some caffeine when I drink a Coke, but more often than not, when I drink pop I get the caffeine-free version.

I'm not a SNE, and I never will be, so I don't know what your grind is like. But if you don't have enough energy to play poker without some kind of enhancement, I respectfully suggest that all of you reevaluate your situations.

We've all worked weird hours, or long hours, at some point. I once had a job with lots of voluntary overtime, which I almost never turned down. I worked 12-hour shifts, double shifts, and sometimes all three shifts (1st, 2nd and 3rd) in the same week. I never used a performance enhancer of any kind, including Adderall (my ADD wasn't diagnosed until I was 40 years old).

More sleep, better nutrition, regular exercise, or even naps would be a safer alternative alternative than something which makes you "a little shaky" and makes you "feel all flush like I've been drinking."

Regfest.. tougher games.. and VPP/hand is usually lower, which most chasers don't plan for, so they end up killing themselves trying to hit that last milestone.

but my heroin cocaine cocktails are cool right? one upper one downer, whole lotta a feel good...im jk.

thank you for the input and advice. we probably need more posters like you in this thread.

This post is ridiculous for many reasons. Caffeine is one of a few drugs that has stood the test of time for a plethora of reasons. You saying that you don't use any performance enhancers while taking adderoll on a daily basis is just lol. About the same as 90% of Olympic athletes are "diagnosed" with asthma and therefore can legally take steroids prescribed by their doctor that enhance lung capacity and muscle recovery. I am sure that asthmatics just gravitate to sports that require them to run longer/faster, jump farther, last longer, and be the best physical specimens on the planet.

It was not that long ago that doctors prescribed amphetamines to millions of everyday folks to "cure" "fatigue" lol. It was an epidemic in the 40's and 50's. Then in the 70's and 80's they prescribed MDMA(ecstasy) for depression. ADD drugs will be next. Prescription drugs are for the most part just a legal version of most street drugs. It's all good and well if you take them or any drugs, it's your own perogative. I drink on a daily basis and drink coffee too. But for ****s sake cliff, get off your god damn high horse.

ok glad it wasn't just me who was a little confused by the "guy who takes adderall berates us for drinking coffee and red bull" post.

I don't get all the hate for coffee, soda/energy drinks are way way worse in terms of additives and sugar (red bull is ridiculous for the sugar content), I drink several cups of coffee a day with no ill effects.

holy crap. Take the caffeine debate to some health forum or something.

+1

432k and missing every milestone hand.

LOL he was just trying to be helpful and warn of the health risks of some of our consumptions and symptoms.

oh well, any body tiling 12 plus tables and using an alternate mouse like tracking ball or xbox controller?

got one today (my 2nd this promo)

Actually, I didn't see much about the specific risks. Just multiple examples of how kick ass he is for not taking anything (well, almost anything).

People in glass houses...

any other sng grinders having problems with TN? During my last session it seemd to be slower in bringing up tables with action required. I started timing out on a lot of hands.

stimulants actually slow people with ADD not increase their energy. why would you give something that makes a normal person hyper and energetic to a person with ADD if it did not have this reaction? and it is not like adderall gives people with ADD an edge, it just puts them on the same playing field as someone with out ADD.

caffeine in smaller doses actually makes me groggy as does most with ADD and ADHD.


http://www.myomancy.com/2006/07/caffeine_and_ad

jesus christ. Adderall is a straight up amphetamine. Just because the pharmaceutical industry has made it legitimate doesn't make it any different from dexedrine or any other form of speed. This stuff used to be illegal in Canada and still is illegal in korea and other places. It's a USDA schedule II which means "significant risk of addicition and abuse."

Please don't look down your nose at coffee drinkers if you use this stuff.

Well i need a break for today wow...Im just in total shock been 4 day in a row im improving my game putting good volume only 12-14tabling playing well ect but every single day +500$ below ev here my today graph....Discouraging when u tryout something new lol...I guess it normal, But o well break time

584,439. played too many tables today trying to hit quota b4 the hi/lo tourney and it didn't work out well. won at all my fullring games last week but almost every stake of 6max i tried went badly. going to spend the next few days at 3/6 & 5/10 to finish up the bonus i just bought and hopefully after i clear the milemarker i can run better a little higher.

hi guys most of you are really good cashgame player so would you tell me what are the best cashgame strategie books that could help me to improve my cashgame....

thanks xx

Anything written by Phil Hellmuth

hehe dont lie to the guy, what game are u trying to learn?

LOL nice, hes kidding. anything written by someone who plays online. phil gordon doesnt count.

and i didnt say adderall wasnt a bad drug. i didnt mean to look down my nose at people who use caffeine or other drugs including adderall. i do not use adderall, caffeine or any other drugs except alcohol and whatever i choose to mix with that, sometimes caffeine beverages. i was just meaning to say that different things have different effects on different people. sorry for any confusion or offensive things i said.