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09-10-2010 , 10:34 PM
wait, so is it confirmed there will be no double vpp week/s this year?
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09-10-2010 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bulletproof Monk
wait, so is it confirmed there will be no double vpp week/s this year?
It was confirmed before the year began.
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09-10-2010 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty
If a SS (scum) raised 90% of his stack every time he raised then he would be.

Likewise, if uncalled Pre-flop shoves aren't considered all-in by HEM then he will be.
They aren't considered all-in by HEM, and they aren't winning in general. When you take out all-in pre hands you are taking out a fairly strong range (these days)
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09-10-2010 , 10:46 PM
Àre there any profitable SSers with an positive redline ? It just blows my mind if you have avg preflop all in ev% >50.
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09-10-2010 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruut99
Àre there any profitable SSers with an positive redline ? It just blows my mind if you have avg preflop all in ev% >50.
in FR it's really not hard to get + 50% actually my % is 53% (with down red line) in 6max it's more like 50.5% with a even red line (NL50)
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09-10-2010 , 11:30 PM
gave up on whatever i intended to achieve, shipped money to rakes and i think he's the only one i booked any bets with
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09-10-2010 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spamz0r
at what odds? not trying to ask for too much but 1-1 is a bit steep imo =/
i'll take 2:1, my $500 vs your $1k? quote if you want it confirmed
we did this bet with no escrow, spam conceded and paid me immediately. he didn't stall and hold until 2011 when the bet is technically over.

gg. promised to buy him a drink if he ever comes to la
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09-11-2010 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lennois
Weird, because I just looked over a larger number of your hands (mainly 2/4) with all-in pre = false and she went straight down...
I don't doubt it, I can get pretty sloppy at the 1/2 and 2/4. I filtered for just 2/4 this month and you can see me take a nosedive at "allin preflop = false." But even then you see a quick peak over 20k hands before the dive. My point was to say that it's possible for a SS'er to be positive over a relatively large sample.. I didn't say it was necessarily me. Get Stally to post a graph, I'm sure his put mine to shame.

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09-11-2010 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hartlin
Finally had a winning day ... maybe coming out of this $15k downer? Would be so nice, volume should be going up again.

69k VPPs on the month.

350,000 VPPs right now...
Your downers are my uppers and vice versa. I'm stuck 8k from an arbitrary point 3 days ago.

Also, re: Dell 3007 WFP - I've had one for a few years, it's great, but all of a sudden this year the top 5 inches or so got dimmer. Otherwise it's great.
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09-11-2010 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruut99
Àre there any profitable SSers with an positive redline ? It just blows my mind if you have avg preflop all in ev% >50.
I'm pretty sure there isn't a single profitable SS'er with a postiive redline at mid/high stakes 6max. You're just not gonna find it in today's game. If I'm wrong someone please post a graph.
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09-11-2010 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by needbeer
Actally just realized Bruut doesn't play 20-50bb tables
NO HE DOES NOT
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09-11-2010 , 09:20 AM
currently playing nl 100 20-50bb tables 24 tabling with a positive winrate

Do you guys think it is possible to reach SNE only playing nl 100 without get burned out? Im unemployed and single lol
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09-11-2010 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ijizz
currently playing nl 100 20-50bb tables 24 tabling with a positive winrate

Do you guys think it is possible to reach SNE only playing nl 100 without get burned out? Im unemployed and single lol
if you intend on staying that way....lol it depends on your thresh hold for this sort of thing. hopefully you will not be at 100nl the entire year which will make it much easier.
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09-11-2010 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ijizz
currently playing nl 100 20-50bb tables 24 tabling with a positive winrate

Do you guys think it is possible to reach SNE only playing nl 100 without get burned out? Im unemployed and single lol
Yes, assuming you get around .32 vpp/hand, you could play about 15k hands of 100nl 24 tabling 5 days a wk for 12 months and make it. This calc would actually give you a little wiggle room.
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09-11-2010 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Aillemkall
Yes, assuming you get around .32 vpp/hand, you could play about 15k hands of 100nl 24 tabling 5 days a wk for 12 months and make it. This calc would actually give you a little wiggle room.
definitively possible 1700-1800 hands at 6 max per hour at 0.30 for 6 max it's about 5.5-6 hours per day (easy game)

at FR 1500 hands per hour at 0.25 it's about 7.5-8 hour per day.

obv the best is to overplay and take days off
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09-11-2010 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Aillemkall
Yes, assuming you get around .32 vpp/hand, you could play about 15k hands of 100nl 24 tabling 5 days a wk for 12 months and make it. This calc would actually give you a little wiggle room.
should have said that I am talking about FR, no way you get 0.32 in FR?
Im currently at 0.29vpp/hand
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09-11-2010 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ijizz
should have said that I am talking about FR, no way you get 0.32 in FR?
Im currently at 0.29vpp/hand
around 6 hours a day at fr ,

you can't get 0.32 in FR that's in 6 max
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09-11-2010 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mic_check12
NO HE DOES NOT
HE USE TO PLAY THEM NOT SURE WHEN HE STOPPED
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09-11-2010 , 02:11 PM
ah fk it play through this:



or go to oct fest....you guessed it see you all tomorrow!!!
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09-11-2010 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by needbeer
I don't doubt it, I can get pretty sloppy at the 1/2 and 2/4. I filtered for just 2/4 this month and you can see me take a nosedive at "allin preflop = false." But even then you see a quick peak over 20k hands before the dive. My point was to say that it's possible for a SS'er to be positive over a relatively large sample.. I didn't say it was necessarily me. Get Stally to post a graph, I'm sure his put mine to shame.

does the "allin preflop=false" filter remove hands where you raise allin but opponents fold? i assume so (have PT3 not HEM so different filters).

if that's the case then surely no SS is going to be positive? most of the blinds play is 3bet rather than call, plus lots of our open-raises are met with a 3bet at the 20-50bb tables so their profit is limited when filtered for not allin. i guess it's possible to get it positive, if playing a different strategy - would need to call most raises instead of 3b, and probably limp preflop to discourage allin shoves. sounds like a prop-bet... lol.

just to give an idea of how much profit a shortstacker makes 3betting, i looked at my year and it accounts for over double my total profit. it would be many times more for an SSer winning closer to breakeven. doesn't mean we've lost money on our initial raises... it's just the blinds eating away most of the winnings. :-)
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09-11-2010 , 11:37 PM
100k month already, well on pace for SNE!

I'd like to try some short stacking, but on PS.fr we don't have the different tables, only one kind where you have to buy in between 35BB and 100BB. Maybe I'll try in PLO, could be a fun gamble.
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09-12-2010 , 12:41 AM
Up to 79k VPPs on the month.

359k on the year.

Big day of grinding coming....
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09-12-2010 , 05:27 AM
723k i get .35 this month and .34 last month at 100 fr
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09-12-2010 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by WaterFall21
723k i get .35 this month and .34 last month at 100 fr
How do you get such high numbers at 100 fr? You mostly play 40-100bb right? I'm getting like .28
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