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Originally Posted by Shyam Markus
Stud/Draw/Mixed Games:
This needs less of an explanation, but these have also been removed. Simply put, we didn't have enough players still interested in these games (especially after the note about nosebleeds below) to continue to offer them as ring games. We'll still spread them as occasional tournaments, and I hope to be able to bring more fun non-hold'em games back in the future, but for now it's more important that we have a clean and simple offering of the games that actually run.
Heads-Up:
I'm sure it can work somewhere, in some form, and maybe someday we'll come up with a way to do that. For now, though, it's gone.
Nosebleed Stakes:
Also gone. They had their own set of issues, but mostly these games simply didn't fit with what we were trying to do anymore. And with the new system not allowing you to watch individual tables, the spectator factor was gone as well.
Hahahaha. ****ing unreal. I'm just instantly withdrawing my money. Just wow, unbelievable. What an absolute joke.
The excuse of "it's important that we have a clean and simple offering" may have worked and been somewhat understandable the last 1-2 times that you took out various games, (like Badugi, H/O, A-5, 7-game etc), but it doesn't still work now, when the lobby was fine until now, and there was no extra scrolling that you had to do through the client to navigate games, they were all clearly there.
It's just so terrible for poker that all other (interesting and fun) games have been removed, my God. So much for trying to set yourself apart, as you used to try to do and would pride yourself on doing, from any other site, that only offers NLHE and Omaha, which is everywhere. As well as the "spectator factor" which was basically unique to FTP and was a special thing, also completely being gone.
Unfortunately I can't ever see this change ever somehow improving the liquidity of the Full Tilt economy, so that any of these games will ever be brought back in the future.
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Originally Posted by SootedPowa
Removing nosebleed games is a bit rubbish. I mean how many rec players took a shot and never returned because they lost $60,000 to Patrick Antonius? Hardly any I bet. A ton more would have logged on to rail isildur and made a deposit because they were there/had the buzz after railing.
Don't understand the rake raise either (apart from we want to make more money), that certainly doesn't help recs being it is at the micros.
Where are all these rec players are going to come from FTP is targeting anyway? I think they are chasing a market that is not as healthy as they think. I highly doubt there are floods of players waiting for the right "friendly" site to play on.
I completely agree with all of this ^.
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Originally Posted by Shyam Markus
The good news for everyone is that it should now be a much cleaner looking lobby, and it should be easier for players less experienced with the lobby to find and join games.
The main idea here was to take as much of the "work" out of starting tables and keeping them running as possible.
What's next:
We'll also be giving SNGs the same treatment as ring games at some point, hopefully this year. Once that happens (or maybe even at the same time), we'll be able to revamp the lobby itself, making finding and joining a game even more user friendly.
Leave your feedback on any of this stuff here in this thread, and we'll be sure to read, discuss, and provide answers to questions when possible.
Firstly, no, you won't be "sure to" read, discuss and answer things. Come on now. Before this change today you hadn't been here for months, and had stopped answered anything remotely interesting or important.
The constant nonsense about just making things easier and easier for tables to be found is ridiculous. Just to take out many separate/segregated games that almost don't affect others, and would otherwise generate you rake, and might draw both regs and recs to your site rather than any other site.
Also it's hands-down more confusing now. A player doesn't know what they are going to get before clicking on any table, which is way more intimidating for any recreational player.
Here's a tip that you guys will be sure to love - make only one table possible on your whole site! That way it will be the most user friendly and the easiest table possible to find. Which is clearly your whole goal! I'm sure you guys will love it, and can thank me later.
And this:
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Originally Posted by Play4Keeps
The whole "cleaner lobby" thing is laughable, just cause youre a new player doesn't make you an idiot, any 10 year old can figure out how the old lobby works.
Last edited by Hero Value; 07-28-2015 at 03:46 PM.