I'm done for the day anyway but will try and use multi-quote in future.

One thing though, I'm here as a Player Ambassador to represent their interests to FT, not the other way around. FT pay me, sure, but my primary responsibility is to the players of the site and the wider poker community. I feel like you think I am a site Pro and that is not my role at all, if it was I wouldn't have made a single post in this thread.

well then you can just ban seating scripts all together no? I don't really know why they are allowed in the first place.

Not knowing who is in the game and being forced to auto post seems unfair to me and at this point if you are going to run games like that I can't imagine caring about whether or not you button someone and leave. This is something I would have never ever done in the past having the "Play now" button available when a new game is starting.
Anyways the main point being I can't imagine too many regs or rec players enjoying joining a game where they can't even see who is playing in it. I certainly don't and I wouldn't be a part of that sort of thing long term.

Removing nosebleed games is a bit rubbish. I mean how many rec players took a shot and never returned because they lost $60,000 to Patrick Antonius? Hardly any I bet. A ton more would have logged on to rail isildur and made a deposit because they were there/had the buzz after railing.

Don't understand the rake raise either (apart from we want to make more money), that certainly doesn't help recs being it is at the micros.

Where are all these rec players are going to come from FTP is targeting anyway? I think they are chasing a market that is not as healthy as they think. I highly doubt there are floods of players waiting for the right "friendly" site to play on.

I like the look of the changes, they might tempt me back to FTP, particularly if liquidity picks up in low/medium stakes PLO, a game I want to learn without the hassle of having to play zoom or toxic bumhuntery/seatscripty games.

Two suggestions:

- A filter to get rid of shallow tables. The absense of this is infuriating and it doesn't make any sense.

- Make the fonts bigger in the lobby. Now it looks like the lobby is dead compared to before. The graphic design needs to be different to make the changes easier to understand and the place look less like a ghost town.

By the way giving out about sparky posting too much in this thread is ridiculous. I wish he was doing this job for every site.

is sparky a full tilt Employee if so I wouldnt condemn his activity I would condone it, its nice to actually get tailored responses from the site staff rather then a generic response and just an announcement.

I prefer to feel listened to and that my concerns etc are taken on board.

I agree with sirin, your efforts are appreciated sparky. At least by the posters with half a brain anyway

Shyam, is Full Tilt going to prevent auto-seating software for ring games analogous to SpinWiz? Such software ('wizard') could ensure that, say, no more than 4 of its users are sat at the same small stake 6-max table (i.e. prevents tables with 5-6 'regulars' - that would be profitable only to Full Tilt - from forming), forming a queue of users (determining the order of them getting seats) and using an algorithm like this:

1. When all the tables of a stake are full*, seat a user from the queue in the pool (automatically click the 'Seat Me' button for him).

2. Wait for two non-users ('recreationals') to join the pool and thus create a new 3-handed table.

2a. If some non-user leaves a table in the pool earlier than two non-users join, the user from step 1 is seated in his place by the client, but he can request move immediately. When two non-users do join the pool, the user will be moved by the client to create a new 3-handed table with these two non-users.

3. Instantly seat 3 more users, randomly chosen from all those who have 'marked' the first user in the wizard (i.e. indicated that they don't mind playing at the same table with him), in order to keep the queue moving fast enough, then go to step 1 because all the tables are full again.

* As long as almost every regular starts using the wizard, it will start seeing all the tables; alternatively, it can detect that all the tables are full when the client fails to seat a user instantly. As Pokerstars $30-60 Spin & Gos show, non-users will have very little chance of being seated at a table that isn't controlled by the wizard already, so it will track the state of the pool quite accurately.

It would look a bit embarrassing to be seated in a 3-max game turning into 6-max before the first hand ends, just like HU turns into 6-max in a normal high stakes lobby where every reg uses a seating script.

Wow sick that's a good point. FTP should be the test ground for banning ALL real time software imo

Thanks for the idea. Sounds great. Will directly speak to my coder and then move my action to full tilt once i receive that program. Thanks again man!

so now SNGS will be undergoing the same treatment...players can no longer open sit and instead everyone will be forced into a queue and randomly play each other?

pfft

even completely removed HU cash games is drastic imo

not sure what the rakeback upgrades will be, but if they are worse, might be ciao ftp

Yep so FTP is doing exactly what Unibet does. It works great imo.
Gotta make it as hard as possible for bumhunters.

unibet allows name changes (and they are totally anonymous, no notes to carryover or anything) + bans all software, quite substantially different.

Great step in the right direction for online poker! Just hope you can stay ahead of software programs that will inevitably pop up to try and get around the new table selection rules.

Anyone else having a problem with HEM2 after the update? I've posted in the HEM support thread about this. Basically I'm sitting at a few tables, one of which is empty (apart from me). The hud displays fine on all my tables, apart from one which appears on the empty table rather than the one it should appear on.

Great job ftp

This is a great idea and seems to align with the direction FTP would like. Would be great to see HU available in at least some format on the site.

Would it not make sense to show how many tables run, so you know if your on all tables or want to play a new one to hope to get merged into a running table?

I'm getting the number of tables:

Sparky please keep posting as often as you feel like.

So people with large FTPoint balances that dont want to play a tourney, 1020 shallow, 1020 5card or smaller, literally have nothing they can get with points anymore?

Also, why doesnt FTP have hotkey options like stars?

Excellent job so far Full Tilt.

I don't quite buy Shyam's explanation that the removal of HU games is at a serious cost to Full Tilt. Now that HU doesn't exist if even 50% of those recreational players played 6 max they'd make more rake. Furthermore having a quality game with a producer makes 5 others happy to be playing on Full Tilt and not just the 1 bumhunter.

HU cash (unless there's extremely low capped pots) is like aids for the online poker industry. I've been saying for years that all sites should remove it as the profit margins are miniscule compared to 6 max or full ring and they advertise blatantly the amount of rec hunting that occurs online.

As for the other changes, I've been saying for some time that Full Tilt needs to condense their offerings and this on the surface is really good. I hope that things can turn around for them as these recent changes took some tough critical thinking and some balls to implement. Good on Full Tilt for that.

I can't fathom how the MTT's will change too much with new changes and obviously some more work needs to be done there.

Literally every suggestion you made there is to benefit pros/grinders. That is the exact opposite to the direction Full Tilt is trying to go in now. At this point it would be more likely and interesting to see FT reduce table limits further, give no rewards for higher volume play etc. and see what that does longer term for the liquidity of the site. The one thing I think they are getting wrong is increasing rake. Even though recs don't notice rake eating away at their deposits, they do end up busting quicker with higher rake. I would love to see the medium term effect on the retention of recreational players with a large rake reduction. They mightn't understand why but their initial deposits would last longer which might increase the longevity of their play on the site.

Will anything be done now about the store? When FTP came back there were statements about getting more items into the store and then that all just seemed to fall by the wayside. Recs like being able to buy physical items with their points. Personally I'd be happy to be able to buy bonuses rather than ring game tickets (which are pretty poor to be honest)

Why does the HU format need to be completely removed? Why not just limit the amount of tables per stake and have KOTH system? Plenty of action and will weed out all the bumhunters.