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New (old) squad of operators on midstakes GGPoker. Report plz! New (old) squad of operators on midstakes GGPoker. Report plz!

01-03-2024 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by y2da
As you remember, we managed to jointly ban a whole bunch of operators who had been operating since June and were farming LB on the GG.

Meanwhile, at the same time, miracles happened to other players.

siBasss (Kazakhstan)
Spoiler:

Until June 2023:


After June:



Jabonaer (Kazakhstan)
Spoiler:

Until June 2023:


After June:



DeadMansHand8 (Kazakhstan)
Spoiler:

Until June 2023:


After June:



Nlghtbringer (Belarus)
Spoiler:

Until June 2023:


After June:



Ult!matum (Russia)
Spoiler:

Until June 2023:

After June:



Accounts that I also consider as operators:
Spoiler:

Erik Mager (Kazakhstan)


Monoxylon


Auxology (Peru)


Palominot (Kazakhstan)


badWolff (Kazakhstan)



I can immediately say that the stats of these accounts are not as identical as those of the previous pack of operators. But there are clear patterns.

Firstly, everyone plays with wwsf 53-54, while having wonSD 55+. I just haven’t seen other such aggressive regs who managed not to lose their winnings at the showdown with same wwsf.

Secondly, all accounts have a 3-bet of 24-25% BB vs SB. Which has been steadily growing for everyone since June to these values. (WPN regulars have already felt something) A bunch of check-raises for everyone is 6-8% flop, 13-16% turn, 5-7% river (in fact, like all aggression is shifted to the turn).

А special case:
Spoiler:

This is what the 3bet BB vs SB looked like for these guys in October:


And this is what it has looked like since November:


Here the WPN regulars jump up from their seats and start screaming - we’ve already seen this!


Thirdly, I indicated the countries of the accounts for a reason, because familiar WPN regulars said that most of the accounts from the bot pool on WPN were from Kazakhstan and South American countries.

All accounts do not play many hands and do not play on LB. Surely, guys will come who will say, there’s nothing special here, you’re just a fishreg. But I don’t believe in coincidences (the change in the style of play since June and the combination of the stats of the WWSF and WonSD). And I don’t believe in such win rates on GG post-rake. And I don’t believe that people, having such an edge over the pool and such results, will continue to waste time on limits of 100-200.

Therefore, I ask everybody to report these accounts (flag into stats window). Even if you are in doubt, just ask support to pay attention to them for further checking.

Sorry for my english.


Plz report these accounts!

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Originally Posted by Cosmicgypsy
Played a ton with these guys over the last 12 months, and it’s crazy how much some of their play style has altered recently. Loads of whacky stuff preflop as well, started open limping, 3.5x opens, oh and never manage to get your money in good!

Last edited by Mike Haven; 01-03-2024 at 01:09 PM.
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01-03-2024 , 04:49 AM
Super suspect!
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01-03-2024 , 08:40 AM
GG can die in a fire
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01-03-2024 , 09:05 AM
Oh boy..this is gonna get interesting
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01-03-2024 , 11:22 AM
alpha team assemble. what happened to that gg board of integrity. we need a real one were catchin em weekly now
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01-03-2024 , 11:29 AM
I hope that these clueless bast**ds at GG are out of business for good soon!
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01-03-2024 , 11:53 AM
well they wont be so maybe we can talk them into hiring a competent security team. we find more stuff then they do almost 100% and they have more data
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01-03-2024 , 11:59 AM
Let’s everything GG all in one thread pls
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01-03-2024 , 12:08 PM
why they are all completely different the only thing related is incompetence. If gg poker were serious about security they would pay y2da 200k a year or whatever is above his hourly. captain has found more bots this month then ggpoker.

Or a council of people who are paid to do it. imagine what y2da could find with ggpokers data.

This is what this site is made for not gossip about nik hairball
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01-03-2024 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MoViN.tArGeT
This is what this site is made for not gossip about nik hairball
I thought that this site was meant to discuss Mason's upcoming book (and the free kindle!).
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01-03-2024 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MoViN.tArGeT
why they are all completely different the only thing related is incompetence. If gg poker were serious about security they would pay y2da 200k a year or whatever is above his hourly. captain has found more bots this month then ggpoker.

Or a council of people who are paid to do it. imagine what y2da could find with ggpokers data.

This is what this site is made for not gossip about nik hairball
Throw it all into the Online Forum then

GGpoker isn’t going to fix anything. So it’s up to people to decide if they still want to play.
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01-03-2024 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by coach999
GG can die in a fire
i understand this sentiment but if youre playing on a sketchy gray market poker site some of the blame falls on you as well if this comes asa any suprise at all.
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01-03-2024 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
i understand this sentiment but if youre playing on a sketchy gray market poker site some of the blame falls on you as well if this comes asa any suprise at all.
At this point I’d say most of blame

You should be working with an assumption that you are being cheated in many different ways.

It’s obviously fine to play especially if you still manage to win anyway and/or are having fun.

But there shouldn’t be any shock or outrage
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01-03-2024 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
NVG is a good place for the GG super-user thread as it is a sufficiently "high level" and important topic.
NVG is the reddit of poker, it's a terrible place for serious issues like superusers on the biggest poker site.
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01-03-2024 , 07:36 PM
Deleted a couple of posts about locking this thread, as the decision was reversed and the thread moved here at MCA's excellent suggestion.

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Originally Posted by SkyHighStacks
NVG is the reddit of poker, it's a terrible place for serious issues like superusers on the biggest poker site.
It's a good idea to have an overarching thread like that in NVG where it will get the most attention, and even there it will get some level of serious discussion. Then we can have threads like this that require actual action in forums where they're more likely to get results without being overwhelmed with a poor signal-to-noise ratio.
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01-03-2024 , 08:28 PM
I'm surprised that people think these type of issues are only present at GGPoker and not on every other poker platform. People have been botting and hacking and exploiting since online poker was created.
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01-03-2024 , 09:54 PM
What if they just got a good coach or joined a stable?
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01-04-2024 , 12:32 AM
redlines shifts like that is usually a result of people joining MDA stables
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01-04-2024 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
redlines shifts like that is usually a result of people joining MDA stables
It could be, but we need more information to asses it. OP do you have avaibility to download HH, moreover those tracked hands are a fraction of what have been played or smarthand track all of them?
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01-05-2024 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
It could be, but we need more information to asses it. OP do you have avaibility to download HH, moreover those tracked hands are a fraction of what have been played or smarthand track all of them?
Smarthand track all of them. Except Rush, but I've never seen them there.
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01-07-2024 , 04:53 AM
All accounts from the list have been offline for 4 days. I hope it's no coincidence.
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01-13-2024 , 09:23 PM
goat
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01-18-2024 , 11:52 AM
Is NL25 safe at GG? =D Any advise for threads or what to look out for? Im getting paranoid after reading these threads.
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02-04-2024 , 09:34 AM
One more missed account from this banned botfarm. Same stats, South America again.
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04-05-2024 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by y2da
One more missed account from this banned botfarm. Same stats, South America again.
South America, Argentina?

IF is Argentina, here exist a stable that play on GG / Ignition and they are human, not bots.

If not.. its somewhat strange
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