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11-25-2013 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MrAce777
+1 The most annoying thing about Party/Borgatapoker.com software.
Easily the worst designed thing about any of the sites.
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11-25-2013 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersey Jay
For cisco i stoppred running it from control panel, admin, services. Worked like a charm for borgata and wsop. Then i went back in and "started" service and was able to use vpn again. I was fairly shocked this worked actually, and relieved.
So are there any "standard" programs that might come pre-installed that would need to be disabled? I have a relatively new Windows 8 laptop, have not installed anything like teamviewer, gotomeeting etc. Could there possibly be something pre-loaded that I should be looking for? It's an HP laptop.

I don't really understand Windows 8 too much yet, so to be honest not even really sure where to look.
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11-25-2013 , 09:05 AM
Also tried signing up for WSOP and said my SSN and birth date did not match. Did anyone else get this and have to upload utility bills etc. to get on? This seems like a bad glitch if they can't even do the SSN verification properly... not sure these sites are ready I think the full launch will be delayed for more testing.
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11-25-2013 , 09:15 AM
Which sites accept 7-11 PayNearMe as a deposit option?
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11-25-2013 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Also tried signing up for WSOP and said my SSN and birth date did not match. Did anyone else get this and have to upload utility bills etc. to get on? This seems like a bad glitch if they can't even do the SSN verification properly... not sure these sites are ready I think the full launch will be delayed for more testing.
Doubtful there will be a delay. The regulators don't care much, imo, if the players have problems sourcing at their computers (software conflicts, bad/lack of wifi points, false negatives, etc.). What they do care about is:

Did the software properly run games, do random draws and do proper payouts.
Did the hardware perform properly.
Did the reports to regulators generate properly.
Were site revenues and taxes properly tracked and reported.
Were only players in NJ allowed in.
Were only players 21+ allowed in.

All these player problems - can't get on, got kicked off, can't deposit, etc. - are not regulatory problems. They are site issues.
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11-25-2013 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Also tried signing up for WSOP and said my SSN and birth date did not match. Did anyone else get this and have to upload utility bills etc. to get on? This seems like a bad glitch if they can't even do the SSN verification properly... not sure these sites are ready I think the full launch will be delayed for more testing.
I had the exact same problem w/ WSOP in NV about 2 weeks ago FWIW.
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11-25-2013 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by lobstur
borgata...generic message saying im not in jurisdiction...playing on a mac with a wireless router from middle of nj


all other sites work
Can you see multiple wi-fi connections available from your computer?

Also, Please check your IP and see if it shows your correct location.
www.whatsmyip.com
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11-25-2013 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
So are there any "standard" programs that might come pre-installed that would need to be disabled? I have a relatively new Windows 8 laptop, have not installed anything like teamviewer, gotomeeting etc. Could there possibly be something pre-loaded that I should be looking for? It's an HP laptop.

I don't really understand Windows 8 too much yet, so to be honest not even really sure where to look.
Nothing like a remote desktop application or VPN comes preinstalled afaik.

Are you sure your error message says that you have a remote program running?

(As someone who hates Windows 8, I'll just say that pretty sure you can switch to windows7 view for most things if you want to)
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11-25-2013 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Also tried signing up for WSOP and said my SSN and birth date did not match. Did anyone else get this and have to upload utility bills etc. to get on? This seems like a bad glitch if they can't even do the SSN verification properly... not sure these sites are ready I think the full launch will be delayed for more testing.
I've talked to a lot of ppl that have had this issue. Its mostly for your age verification which was a big deal to get this law passed.

Utility bill or drivers license should fix the problem. Not just happening at WSOP site, have heard it applied to every single site.
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11-25-2013 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MrAce777
+1 The most annoying thing about Party/Borgatapoker.com software.
I use the filter option to hide empty tables and full tables so you get to see only the tables available
Agree, it would be nice to see the player count
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11-25-2013 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerished
I use the filter option to hide empty tables and full tables so you get to see only the tables available
Agree, it would be nice to see the player count
Most sites are going away from showing the player count for some reason. I hate the Party filter, there isn't much to it. Ever since they "upgraded" the software the lobby lay out has been buggy and terrible. I'd guess this will be fixed at some point sooner than later considering it's the biggest (or 2nd biggest behind segregation and or rewards being stripped) issue in the Party Poker forum.
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11-25-2013 , 10:11 AM
I tried to register for WSOP. Their system would not accept my password, even though it said it was a good password. E-mailed Support. They said use the right password. I cannot create an effen password!

I registered for Ultimate. Cell phone verified. I could observe, but could not sign in. It said my password was wrong, so I reset my password and it still rejected it.
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11-25-2013 , 10:19 AM
I hate that you can't see how many players are seated as well...
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11-25-2013 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
Offer your drivers license copy , I'm told they accept that.
I already uploaded that.
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11-25-2013 , 10:41 AM
Is party segregating players in nj? If they do we should boycott the site, I certainly will not be playing there if they do
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11-25-2013 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
Nothing like a remote desktop application or VPN comes preinstalled afaik.

Are you sure your error message says that you have a remote program running?

(As someone who hates Windows 8, I'll just say that pretty sure you can switch to windows7 view for most things if you want to)
No the message just says I am not located in NJ. Was just wondering if perhaps there was some pre-installed remote program that might have been causing the disconnects.

I doubt that's the problem though as everyone seems to be having these issues with or without remote programs installed.

My guess is that the geolocation software checks in on a regular basis to make sure you haven't moved... and if for ANY reason the software cannot verify where you are (weak wifi signal, software glitch, etc.) - it will assume you have moved from NJ and will cut you off.

Must be a software issue as my wifi connection has been stable and the signal strength is excellent. It has happened when I see several of my neighbor's networks available as well. There is really no other reason for a person to be randomly booted out repeatedly, other than a malfunction on the part of the geolocation program.
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11-25-2013 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
Can you see multiple wi-fi connections available from your computer?

Also, Please check your IP and see if it shows your correct location.
www.whatsmyip.com
I have checked my IP on a couple of different sites - some say "Mays Landing NJ - Comcast" (they are my internet provider), and others say Woodbridge NJ (my actual location). I am not sure why it comes up differently depending on the site used to check the IP - but maybe this is causing confusion with the geolocation programs?
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11-25-2013 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
Doubtful there will be a delay. The regulators don't care much, imo, if the players have problems sourcing at their computers (software conflicts, bad/lack of wifi points, false negatives, etc.). What they do care about is:

Did the software properly run games, do random draws and do proper payouts.
Did the hardware perform properly.
Did the reports to regulators generate properly.
Were site revenues and taxes properly tracked and reported.
Were only players in NJ allowed in.
Were only players 21+ allowed in.

All these player problems - can't get on, got kicked off, can't deposit, etc. - are not regulatory problems. They are site issues.
Not so sure about that. I would think the test phase is also to check the reliability of the geolocation software... it may be true that non-NJ players have been blocked as required, however I would think the fact that the software has proven completely unreliable at verifying those who are actually INSIDE the state, also presents a problem for regulators. They need to make sure the entire system works properly or it becomes a problem for them (and for the projected revenues the state is projecting from online gaming).
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11-25-2013 , 10:50 AM
Has anybody had an issue with Borgata Poker's 4 digit verification? I have requested 3 new 4 digit codes and none of them seem to work... JUst want to know have 5 tries left
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11-25-2013 , 10:52 AM
Anyone care to estimate traffic for this week? What is the avg number of players we wi be seeing online?
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11-25-2013 , 10:53 AM
Another day, a new USB adapter, fresh installs, still can't get on any sites but ultimate.
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11-25-2013 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by clockworkorange89
Anyone care to estimate traffic for this week? What is the avg number of players we wi be seeing online?
Assuming it goes live as scheduled I think we will see a slight bump in traffic as some advertising starts, but not much. I've seen around 150-200 on Borgata during soft launch I'd think maybe 300-400 for the first week or so. Will grow from there assuming good advertising and elimination of the many tech glitches.

Question: can users sign up at the Borgata in person? I think that would add a lot of users quickly as the Borg is always packed... and would also eliminate much of the online ID verification hassles (although not the geolocation issues).
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11-25-2013 , 11:00 AM
Day 5 of soft play (live beta test) is going to be better than Day 4, Day 3, Day 2, Day 1.

Unless you are the unfortunate one who is not 21, not in NJ, do not have a valid SS# that is used for age verification and down the road W2/1099 forms for tax tracking (Name must agree with number, nicknames don't count), not near wifi connections of neighbors or businesses, do not have a working cell phone, be on a cell phone network that is not recognized by the site software, do have a computer that is wifi capable, do not have background software running, then you should be able to successfully jump through the hoops to sign on a NJ online gambling site (poker or other). Did I miss anything?

Then, you can now explore the nuances of the individual sites. But wait. Make sure you read and understand the Terms and Conditions of the site as well as the Privacy Agreement. These will answer a lot of questions before proceeding.

When you go through the site do not assume that you know the site because you may have played on it in some past poker life. There will be differences. Big ones. Press a few buttons to find out if there are alternate screen shots (Borgata/Party lobby) comes to mind. Do get every bonus available, but realize that pre-soft launch signup was necessary to secure some of those bonuses. And an e-mail INVITATION was necessary to take advantage of the same.

Each individual site Does have their own take on this. "Free" startup money exclusive of matches. Ultimate -$5. WSOPNJ - $10. Party - $15 if you received e-mail ($10 for cash games, $5 for tournaments), Borgata - $50 if you received e-mail, $20?, 888 - $10 ($4 for cash games and $6 in tournament tickets). Betfair - $10 but a $10 match deposit must be made. Golden Nugget - Last time I tried they have not activated the Live poker download. Hmmm. Looks like about a $100investment on the part of the sites. Does that cover it?

Site games are different and FLUID. They are changing constantly. Adding, Subtracting, but mostly adding - tournaments, S&Gs, Cash games. You know you will see more as they go on. Certain sites share their player pool. Borgata/Party - you will need two (2) different screen names. You will play with only one(1) screen name at a time. Betfair/Golden Nugget, the same when and if GN gets up and rolling. WSOPNJ and 888 is a different story. They Do NOT share player pools, but you may not play both at the same time. Ultimate is on its own for now.

HUD's, Poker Trackers are yet to be determined although it is logical that the extended sites (i.e. Party, Borgata) will accept them because they are accepted on their other platforms.

Your likes or dislikes of each site is subjective. Borgata/Party looks the same, as do 888/WSOPNJ with color exceptions, Betfair is a little different. Golden Nugget does not look bad at all if you their play money site is an indicator. Ultimate Poker is so reminiscent of Paradise Poker. Bare bones and building daily with a 100 things to add, but building and probably way more flexible in the future. With all the other sites the improvements will come slowly because they will be associated with the ROW sites that the sites already are running.

The sites are limited to allowing 500 players on site during the Soft Launch. Do not know how this is calculated. So far headcount on individual sites have exceeded just over 200. The most was probably in the Freeroll Tournaments last night, Sunday.

Customer Service for each site is different. All have the Live Chat option. Most have toll free phone numbers that can help. All have representatives with wide varying skills from zero to extremely knowledgeable. Locations of these reps are all over the world from Las Vegas to Bulgaria to India to the Caribbean to, if you can believe this, Jersey City, NJ! Wonder where all the new jobs are Mr. NJ Representatives. BUT the servers ARE located within the AC casinos, BY LAW which thsy are tryng to change in Trenton to allow anywhere in the State.

In conclusion, the sites ARE making progress. They will open LIVE tomorrow Tuesday, November 26th at 9 AM IF the sites perform ALL of the points set forward by the NJ DGE. Will all the sites be allowed to proceed? We will see.

For those who stopped playing on Black Friday, April 15, 2011 that will be approximately 954 Days. If you stopped after UIEGA, more than 7 Years. And, if you have never played, will use Paradise Poker as Day 1, you have been patient and waited since 1998 to play - a long enduring 15 years. That is when the 21 year olds were 6. Look what you missed. Sorry about the length of this post.
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11-25-2013 , 11:04 AM
I've seen traffic on some sites during soft launch break 300, granted it was on the weekend, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some breaking 500 this week hopefully. I think the next step should be for nj, de, and nv to get serious about compacting with each other or forming some type of gaming alliance.

Not only is the combined population of those states nearly 13 million, it would likely push other states passing legislation join. It would increase time zone liquidity (Nevada is always 3 hours behind) and the player pool while demonstrating to other states that significant revenue can be had and that compacts work. Hopefully 2014 is the year of the first compact.
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11-25-2013 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Not so sure about that. I would think the test phase is also to check the reliability of the geolocation software... it may be true that non-NJ players have been blocked as required, however I would think the fact that the software has proven completely unreliable at verifying those who are actually INSIDE the state, also presents a problem for regulators. They need to make sure the entire system works properly or it becomes a problem for them (and for the projected revenues the state is projecting from online gaming).
Good point. I am sitting in a Starbucks in Queens, NY right now. According to the Geoiptool site, I am in Elizabeth, NJ. Can I play? If I could, the whole system would be proven to be totally unsound.
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