Crickets from Mr. Franklin, lovely.

As should be evident by Frankzo's silence, his post was pure nonsense and a spectator can not ascertain my cards based upon final hand strength in the chat box.

As for the rest of the nonsense – it is the furthest thing from a “total non-issue”.


Not everyone knows this and not everyone is paying attention. Everyone at the table does not process my hole cards when I spew at the table. People get embarrassed when they have to showdown total nonsense and the whole world gets to see. This change encourages tighter play.



Bringing up the change made by Amaya Gaming does not help the other side. The idiots at Amaya think encouraging people to play poker better results in them making more money because it lowers the edges between players. This is flat out wrong. Anything that results in players making less losing plays for fun is bad for everybody. bad for everybody.

Fun players have less fun.
Less losing plays are made.
Less rake is generated.

What you need to ask yourself, would Isai Scheinberg have approved of this change? Who cares what Amaya has done.


here is my favorite hand from this month

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $2.50/$5.00 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

UTG: $546.66 (109 bb)
MP: $524.73 (105 bb)
CO: $94.90 (19 bb)
BU: $527.00 (105 bb)
SB: $540.00 (108 bb)
BB (Hero): $531.10 (106 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($7.50) Hero is BB with 7 2
UTG raises to $12.50, 1 fold, CO calls $12.50, 2 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $62.40, 1 fold, CO 4-bets to $94.90 (all-in), Hero calls $32.50

Flop: ($204.80) 8 7 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($204.80) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($204.80) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $204.80 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
CO shows A K (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 35%, Turn: 36%, River: 0%)

BB (Hero) shows 7 2 (two pair, Sevens and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 65%, Turn: 64%, River: 100%)

BB (Hero) wins $201.80

Why am I doing this? I am doing this for exactly whhat happened here because it is fun. I got to showdown two pairs and win when the fun player thinks he has the winning hand. TPTK no good buddy, i got two pairs! I would not do this on a website that shows the whole cards when all in.

Any change that discourages players from making losing plays for fun is bad for everyone. Adding the informational edge you give to dataminers and just a catastrophe.

You are making an assumption that flipped hole cards is a killjoy for players, do you have any proof other than one hand history?

I personally like to have a sweat with all-ins, it’s especially delightful to see my set boat up vs their flush.

As a long term nj.cash regular, please do not revert the change.

I'm very glad I did not see this post before my last two grind days of last month. I brought up two points in my post

1) you are giving extra information to data miners
2) this will result in me spewing less and making less losing calls. I am not the only one. Fun players don't only lose money to winning players they also spew off to other fun players. This change will result in less donk on donk violence which will result in less repeat deposits for you guys.

instead of addressing either of those you characterize having to click the fourth largest button on the table as "tedious to have to try and find". It is a single mouseclick and then a giant replayer pops up.

If you initiated this change on the world wide client its for the same reason Amaya did. I am telling you right now, you guys are flat out wrong. You will be making less money because of this change. fun players sweat other fun players playing. super small player pool and super small state. having to have your cards turned over potentially getting **** for it later in the week at home games will make players spew less. You are never supposed to be making changes that encourage people to play poker better!

given the bolded part of your post I will change my request. Please revert to the old way of doing things and tell the people who want to see cards face up when allin to stick to the games down the street.

I was going to get the 14k MGR bonus the next four months on Borg. Given this change I'm not sure might be back on poker stars some. I have played 0 hands there so far this year.

Can you bring back The Grind leaderboard? it used to show the top MGR earners every month.





Do you 3b call off 27o when playing poker with no bounty?

Would you ever do this?

PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $0.50/$1.00 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

UTG: $100.00 (100 bb)
MP (Hero): $345.25 (345 bb)
CO: $134.11 (134 bb)
BU: $438.76 (439 bb)
SB: $178.30 (178 bb)
BB: $100.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 5 5 5 5
UTG raises to $3.50, Hero 3-bets to $12, 2 players fold, SB calls $11.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $8.50

Flop: ($37) 3 T 3 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $17.57, SB folds, UTG calls $17.57

Turn: ($72.14) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($72.14) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $48, Hero calls $48

Total pot: $168.14 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
UTG shows A 9 4 4 (a full house, Threes full of Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 34%, Turn: 20%, River: 0%)

MP (Hero) shows 5 5 5 5 (a full house, Threes full of Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 66%, Turn: 80%, River: 100%)

MP (Hero) wins $165.14

I do these plays for fun. I understand the psychology of fun players because I am one. I have already made folds I would have 100% called with prior to this change. If the whole world is going to see me spew, I am going to spew less.

apparently Borgata has decided to scam its users by refusing to payout "The Grind" promotion for the month of August claiming it was "paused" even though it was advertised all month on site and within the client. absolute shameful joke. definitely emailing the DGE about this one.

how could you ever pause a promotion to promote grinding on the slowest month of the year.

when do they normally pay out the bonus?

did the payout for July?

is it on for this month (the ad for it is on the client same as last month)?

they have always payed out the promotion within the first few days of the month ever since the promo began. and they have been running this promo for years now. they advertised it all august and now are refusing to payout.

what a scam.

last time the party poker .com people tried to not payout a bonus, Gags got it squared away for me by the top guy on NJ side.

if you are on his discord alert him to this.

also try to reach out to ike. he quit working for poker stars when they did the SNE fiasco. this is the same thing.

Hey Sh@i'tan I'm glad to read youre still playing, even if you are just a fun player now! Hope alls well (:

Is anyone even working at Party Poker NJ anymore or at least anyone with a pulse/not a robot? They froze my account over a month ago for a geo location flag (even though I have lived in NJ for 6 years) and did all they asked me to do (upload documents, take pictures, sign my soul over to Hades, etc) and they will not respond to e-mails or call me back. I called them multiple times and each time someone does pick up they say "I have forwarded this request to important people blah blah blah and nothing ever happens.

What kind of operation is this? And for a simple geo location flag, they don't even have to do anything just forward the request to geocomply and thats it. Mind boggling to me. At this point all I want to do is cash out and never play on the site again but since no humans appear to be working there, I may just be out of a pile of money.

You can chat with a live person. Open software, click forgot password and option is there to select iirc

Where do NJ players play at these days? I came back playing poker on Pokerrrr 2 after 6 years not playing. I'm wondering which site is the most popular this moment.

WSOP.com has the most players that I have seen. I mostly play 5/10 and 10/20 NL and there is usually at least 1-2 5/10's running always and 10/20 usually every night. Smaller limits have lots of tables as well.

couldn't get geolocated on Party, never happened before. Now the tables are all empty. Anybody know what's going on?

I got a “we having technical difficulties” message trying to sign on to Borgata around 845 pm tonight. Believe they’re powered by same engine. No further info was provided.

Its working now.

must have been some kind of software reset. I guess they kicked everybody off and then reset. Working fine now. Would be nice if they told us what was going on.

literally kicked people off the site for 60-90mins and didn't even pause the tournaments. just a completely **** site run by incompetent morons. got a nice stock email from them saying make sure you clear your cookies/cache if you are having issues, since when almost the entire site is kicked off the error is clearly on the users end.

Came for this...

I'm a .05-.10 player and have generally played on Stars. It's difficult sometimes to find a game with a seat, there just aren't that many players and the tables seem to be locked full often.

Wondered where everyone went. I'll try WSOP, but I haven't liked the non-Stars software for the iPad in the past.

Went to play on WSOP and 888 today, and it told me I had illegal software running. I've always been able to play with Pokertracker running, using it for Pokerstars and Party. WSOP and 888 have just ignored it up til now. But now I can't run either if I have Pokertracker running, which is ridiculous, because it's allowed by the other sites. Between not having any chat, and issues I had this summer with them holding my money hostage, I'm about ready to give up on them. 888 isn't a big loss, but WSOP would be tough to give up. I'm assuming this problem is affecting others as well?

yeah, when i logged onto wsop today it said i had to uninstall prohibited software, i only had pt4 running, when i went to register an mtt it said i had to be in NJ to play for real money, i logged out and closed pt4 and then there was no message when i logged in and i was able to register. As far as I know PT4 doesnt affect wsop at all but i use it for borgata and pokerstars, very annoying

Players on WSOP PA have run into the same issue. You cannot play with PokerTracker running in the background. I know one person who said Holdem Manager is able to be ran in the background, but looks like those of us who use PT4 are screwed for the time being.

Same thing in Pennsylvania. PT4 blocked me from being able to geolocate.

There are no saved hand histories and therefor no advantage gained on WSOP by running it. (I guess unless someone is using other illegal software to mine HHs but if thats the case im sure they could find a work around for this)

Think we all need to complain about this. Theres no reason for it when the other sites that allow huds dont block pt4. For now I'm just gonna play the other two PA sites

Anyone else get ripped off by the Player’s Choice Deposit Bonus at Party? I made the deposit and entered the code, but received no bonus. I even verified with a Party rep that I was eligible for the bonus before depositing, but they have so far refused to honor their statements to me.

Party has usually been pretty good about these types of mixups,, but apparently things have changed. It’s totally unacceptable that their own rep tells me that I am eligible, but they refuse to honor an advertised bonus that was sent directly to me by their rep.

Are seating scripts allowed for partypoker NJ? It’s been a pain in the butt trying to outclick all these regulars who seem to have lightning reflexes.

There’s a waitlist feature in the software that allows you to get popup once table has 1,2,3…. seated players etc. You click popup and get seated immediately. If someone is open sitting set it to 2 and get notified as soon as someone sits.

Whoa thank you, did not even know this feature existed