My name is Alexander. I am a player and a backer. Me and 2 players took a deal from APD for NH poker (former poker master). We were interested in certain clubs. We started playing in one club, the deal was closed a couple of days later and we were forced to look for deals in other clubs, APD offered us clubs with guarantees and clubs without guarantees of profit payments. We played in a guaranteed club and everything is fine there, but also took a deal in a club with no guarantee. In this club, one of the conditions was the purchase of action 40%. For those who do not know what it is
If you win, then 40% of the profit is taken from you, if you lose, you get 40% back.
We played there for about a week, and on the day when we got a profit in this club, the APD wrote that our accounts were blocked and we were fined 100k yuan. We won about 80k RMB that day.
That is, the fine was more than the amount that we won. Moreover, only some of the accounts were blocked. How can some accounts break the rules and others not?
To our appeals, the APD replied that the club was without guarantees and they did what they could.
According to them, the club imposed a fine of 250k yuan, but the APD was able to agree to reduce the fine to 100k yuan. This penalty was supposed to be distributed among our three players, but 4 days later it turned out that 1 more player was injured.
This is the 4th player to be included in the list of banned players by the club who, in their opinion, are breaking the rules. Moreover, no rules were announced before we started playing. Club claims - use of х2н, simultaneous login in the application, similar account IDs. This was not agreed before the start of the cooperation.
I repeat that it was 4 days since the ban before they found out about the 4th Spanish player. They wanted to write us penalties of 25k each, a Spanish player wrote that he won only 10k and would not pay a 25k penalty, one of our players wrote that he was ready to pay a 25k penalty. The rest of the 2nd thought that the APD offered to fine in proportion to how much the player won in this club, that is, the more you won, the more you pay the fine!
My other player and I won about 10k, and the third one won 50k. Thus, it turns out that he has to pay a 60k fine, and we - about 13.5k each. After a while, I wrote that we decided that we want everyone to equally take on a 25k fine. The ADF replied that this would not work. Apparently the 4th player (Spaniard) is their friend or a player who has been playing for a long time, it does not matter, but the fact is obvious - they sided with him.
I asked for help with the payment of the fine, for which I was offered to play in guaranteed clubs and receive additional rakeback and thus beat the minus. But I do not like playing in these clubs and I asked to close 7,500 yuan immediately (this is less than 10% of the penalty) and give the opportunity to cover 22,500 yuan with additional rakeback per month at 7,500 yuan
To which the APD answered that they would not pay anything. 11 days have passed since the accounts were blocked, and they still haven't closed the deal for other players in this club. This suggests that the APD will get its money back in any case, since the penalty imposed on the APD by the club, as it turned out, for the use of x2n, will be paid by the players, and the APD will always, in any case, earn its money on the players' RB.
I am writing this because I do not want anyone to suffer through the fault of the ADF and their greed for profit. I am sure that many have faced injustice on their part and the desire to make money from the players at any cost. Always be careful when cooperating with such agents!

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This is how the head of the APD reacted to my message that I would write to 2 + 2 about how it works. changed the avatar, but the screenshot shows that it is he by his nickname

So confusing. Very hard to understand. ??

Hello, first of all you are through another agent and you went to work with us, your agent is on our side, club was not guaranteed, but you tried to blackmail me, threating me so I pay you, when a club or site is not guaranteed that means anything that happens we are not responsible.

1# Club/Alliance said you created accounts at same time with your backed players and friends.
2# You almost always play the same tables
3# You and your backed friends almost always play the same time and leave session at same time.

They said you are robot and colluder, among Russia there are many bots, it's not a new case or a rare case this, I didn't steal your money, the alliance or club did.

We encouraged you to play guaranteed clubs, but you came here because you wanted to play the best games in the app, you knew there was risk.

Basically you came to play here because your other agent had no access to this games, you knew there was risk, because we clearly said to you was non-guaranteed, but you didn't care and wanted to play the best games.

At the same time I never guaranteed for deposits on this club, we had to deposit to allow you to play high limits, we deposited with your amount, and even if we did we had no chance, because you started loosing and one day you won 100K RMB and they didn't pay us that day, from that day they said you are using external software, you are a robot.

We are also helpless, we fight for more than 10 hours with them and they didn't listen and didn't pay us, that's the risk in this sites, that's why you are playing them, you even said, high risk comes with high reward..

We tried to help you and you attacked us and blaimed us that was our fault, we are only agents, we don't own alliance or club, we did our best and manage to reduce your fine from 250K to 100K and even if one of my other players shared the fine when he only played 1 day, but after all this even instead of being thank full you blackmailed us, that shows the kind of person you are. You just come here to try to win maximum and if you get robbed in a non-guaranteed club blaim us or your agent even.

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He scammed also his backed players, i read good scammers from start.. GiG you are a scammer and blackmailer, my coincence is clean, even your backed players say you scam them.

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Be carefull doing business with this guy called GiG.

APD always clean and trusted.

I hate people who use things like APD wtf how am i supposed to know what APD is? is it the Atlanta Police Department? LIKE WTF I HATE ITTTTTTT

You will apologize tomorrow

I was thinking more like U of Alabama PD or Auburn PD, but theyre both in GA (Georgia, not Gamblers' Anonymous hehe) like that site Adjarabet. Maybe its Adjara PD??

I pretty much agree that besides OP's disdain for paragraphs, an understanding (****, even a clue) as to what APD stands for would certainly help.

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