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11-15-2013 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gdsfather
Is PO now restricting withdrawals for everyone? I used to have as many withdrawals as I wanted pending, then it went to 4 pending at a time to now 1. If I were to follow the trend of the cash game restrictions tomorrow I will not be able to withdrawal at all.
I'm on SB and I had 2 pending withdrawals and they returned one of them to my account today with a message in my inbox about the new policy. Awesome.....
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11-15-2013 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gdsfather
Is PO now restricting withdrawals for everyone? I used to have as many withdrawals as I wanted pending, then it went to 4 pending at a time to now 1. If I were to follow the trend of the cash game restrictions tomorrow I will not be able to withdrawal at all.
Yea they cancelled all my pending request but one. Whats worse is they cancelled my earliest request (nov 1) but left my 11/11 request as the pending.
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11-15-2013 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gdsfather
Is PO now restricting withdrawals for everyone? I used to have as many withdrawals as I wanted pending, then it went to 4 pending at a time to now 1.

This change was made for Carbon and Aced (who are on the other partition but use the Jazette Cashier) last month as well. From unlimited withdrawals pending to 1 at a time. I presume the change is here to stay. Jazette cashier checks averaged 11.43 days last month according to players posting publicly online at various forums.


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11-15-2013 , 08:39 PM
http://www.playersonly.ag/promos/Poker-Maximus-7

Cool a tourney series but I'm still capped at 2 tables. It's beyond me how they hit any gtds with players like myself capped like this.
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11-15-2013 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by quit stallin
http://www.playersonly.ag/promos/Poker-Maximus-7

Cool a tourney series but I'm still capped at 2 tables. It's beyond me how they hit any gtds with players like myself capped like this.

Your cap almost certainly only applies to cash games no?


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11-15-2013 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Your cap almost certainly only applies to cash games no?


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Kahn
No the cap applies to mtt's as well, including just being REGISTERED for an MTT.
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11-16-2013 , 12:29 AM
yup
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11-16-2013 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Your cap almost certainly only applies to cash games no?
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Originally Posted by rakemehard
No the cap applies to mtt's as well, including just being REGISTERED for an MTT.

OH.... damn. When this removal from cash games was going on earlier this year (before 2+2 really talked about it), players were still allowed to play as many MTTs as they wanted... it was only the cash game tables being restricted.




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11-18-2013 , 02:40 PM
Bump : /

Anyone get any responses back who have been banned?
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11-18-2013 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gdsfather
Bump : /

Anyone get any responses back who have been banned?
I called and spoke with poker manager, as well as emailing them. Basically was told, "Your play is not conducive to our recreational model"...sigh...poker manager agreed with me that it doesn't make sense to ban winning regs, bc if you ban all the winners, then breakeven players will become new sharks and you have to ban them, then slightly losing players will become sharks and have to ban them...pretty soon you don't have a poker room. He said they tried explaining that to management, but they went ahead with the decision anyways. Just awful thinking with anybody with a 3 digit IQ.
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11-18-2013 , 05:48 PM
can someone tell me which cards are working for deposits here?
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11-18-2013 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ohio1985
can someone tell me which cards are working for deposits here?
if i remember correctly, a few days ago when people posted answers to this question the answers were removed.

if u ask live support they give u a list of cards "that have worked in the past." that may be your best option for getting an accurate answer.
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11-18-2013 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Flushtrated17
I called and spoke with poker manager, as well as emailing them. Basically was told, "Your play is not conducive to our recreational model"...sigh...poker manager agreed with me that it doesn't make sense to ban winning regs, bc if you ban all the winners, then breakeven players will become new sharks and you have to ban them, then slightly losing players will become sharks and have to ban them...pretty soon you don't have a poker room. He said they tried explaining that to management, but they went ahead with the decision anyways. Just awful thinking with anybody with a 3 digit IQ.
They don't really have a poker room anymore do they? They don't have much to lose banning poker players who cash out from time to time.
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11-19-2013 , 02:28 AM
To be honest, nothing fuels paranoia among some of the worst players as word of winning players being kicked off the network. A lot of really bad players play to potentially win, and if they think they may not have a shot at cashing out if they strike it big, they will take their business elseware.

Totally wrong way to approach things.

Limiting amount of tables played, taking away p2p, reducing VIP rewards, maybe even changing up some game structures... all that isn't going to cause bad players to feel nearly as bad about things as banning winning players.

It stinks, because some really good things have actually been happening too. They made some nice structural changes for HUSNGs, they added a HUSNG leaderboard. I saw people starting to get excited about playing there and thinking about moving play over, but with these types of changes it has quickly turned to players not trusting Merge at all (and I'm not talking about $500 level grinders or anything like that).
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11-19-2013 , 01:40 PM
i just had one of my withdrawals cancelled. I play on the gohorsebetting skin.. thats the site where i downloaded the software from. This is the email they sent me... any particular meaning to this? should i (we) be worried?

Dear Thomas,

Each account can have a maximum of 1 pending withdrawals active at any one time. We have canceled your latest withdrawal request and returned the funds to your account. You will be able to request a new withdrawal once one of your pending withdrawals has been processed.

Sincerely,
The Withdrawals Team
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11-19-2013 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by binkjobOBV
i just had one of my withdrawals cancelled. I play on the gohorsebetting skin.. thats the site where i downloaded the software from. This is the email they sent me... any particular meaning to this? should i (we) be worried?

Dear Thomas,

Each account can have a maximum of 1 pending withdrawals active at any one time. We have canceled your latest withdrawal request and returned the funds to your account. You will be able to request a new withdrawal once one of your pending withdrawals has been processed.

Sincerely,
The Withdrawals Team
i've never heard of the skin u play on, but ASSUMING it is a Merge operation:

a few weeks ago Merge changed their cashout policies. you used to be able to request many withdrawals and they would just stack in the system, so one would be moved up for processing once one of your withdrawals went through.

now, you can request one withdrawal (maybe 2?) at a time, and once it goes through, you have to go through the process to request another.
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11-19-2013 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DrawNone
i've never heard of the skin u play on, but ASSUMING it is a Merge operation:

a few weeks ago Merge changed their cashout policies. you used to be able to request many withdrawals and they would just stack in the system, so one would be moved up for processing once one of your withdrawals went through.

now, you can request one withdrawal (maybe 2?) at a time, and once it goes through, you have to go through the process to request another.
oh ok.. yes it is definitely merge.
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11-19-2013 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
To be honest, nothing fuels paranoia among some of the worst players as word of winning players being kicked off the network. A lot of really bad players play to potentially win, and if they think they may not have a shot at cashing out if they strike it big, they will take their business elseware.

Totally wrong way to approach things.

Limiting amount of tables played, taking away p2p, reducing VIP rewards, maybe even changing up some game structures... all that isn't going to cause bad players to feel nearly as bad about things as banning winning players.

It stinks, because some really good things have actually been happening too. They made some nice structural changes for HUSNGs, they added a HUSNG leaderboard. I saw people starting to get excited about playing there and thinking about moving play over, but with these types of changes it has quickly turned to players not trusting Merge at all (and I'm not talking about $500 level grinders or anything like that).
Exactly. Awful approach by them on all levels. Limiting tables to 4 like bovada would have done the trick just fine. I mean they already took away rakeback for winning players like 6 months ago, and many still played there, including me.
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11-19-2013 , 03:11 PM
yeah just one at a time......apparently they want as little money leaving there site as possible......well played merge
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11-19-2013 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cantrunworse
yeah just one at a time......apparently they want as little money leaving there site as possible......well played merge
thats exactly how my monster downswing happened.. was pumped up a **** ton.. couldnt get it off.. lost a **** ton.. obv its my own fault, but bottom line if i coulda cashed it out like normal it never happens
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11-19-2013 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
To be honest, nothing fuels paranoia among some of the worst players as word of winning players being kicked off the network. A lot of really bad players play to potentially win, and if they think they may not have a shot at cashing out if they strike it big, they will take their business elseware.

Totally wrong way to approach things.

Limiting amount of tables played, taking away p2p, reducing VIP rewards, maybe even changing up some game structures... all that isn't going to cause bad players to feel nearly as bad about things as banning winning players.

It stinks, because some really good things have actually been happening too. They made some nice structural changes for HUSNGs, they added a HUSNG leaderboard. I saw people starting to get excited about playing there and thinking about moving play over, but with these types of changes it has quickly turned to players not trusting Merge at all (and I'm not talking about $500 level grinders or anything like that).
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Originally Posted by Flushtrated17
Exactly. Awful approach by them on all levels. Limiting tables to 4 like bovada would have done the trick just fine. I mean they already took away rakeback for winning players like 6 months ago, and many still played there, including me.

I think that as winning players, we can all agree that booting other winning players is terrible for us. I also think that opting players out of VIP and limiting the number of tables they can play was an adequate (if unfortunate) solution, but alas, Jazette management did not

One thing we all need to do is face the facts. This industry is changing and more and more anti-reg measures are coming out. It's a reaction to a shrinking rather than a growing industry... a maturing industry rather than a booming one.

We all had it good for a decade... now the marginal winners are being pushed out leaving once again, sharks and fish at most sites. Also unfortunately, this particular site/network, chose to boot the sharks out completely... let us hope that other networks do not follow suit!


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11-19-2013 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cantrunworse
yeah just one at a time......apparently they want as little money leaving there site as possible......well played merge
stacked or not, average check time last month was 11 days, maybe there are other reasons. stacking and/or withdrawing one by one is no different currently
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11-20-2013 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by gdsfather
Is PO now restricting withdrawals for everyone? I used to have as many withdrawals as I wanted pending, then it went to 4 pending at a time to now 1. If I were to follow the trend of the cash game restrictions tomorrow I will not be able to withdrawal at all.
Yes.. I was a reg that also got the boot off ring games on PO. I had been there for 2 years so that probably had something to do with it.. Said I could still play tournys or bet sports, but no ring games.. They also limited me to one pending withdraw(which i see now is true for everyone). So that is the boat I am in also. (my 3 previous checks had took around 14 days to be sent) Since this new stuff happened my one pending withdraw started on 11/5. If and when it gets sent to me I will give update. If anyone has received a check or had one listed as "sent" in cashier, after this "one check pending rule came about" please let me know. thanks..
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11-25-2013 , 09:34 PM
has anybody who was banned on SB/POnly and withdrew money after that, received the funds yet? Mine is still pending. Although they did give me a $10 free sports bet right after they banned me, HAHAHA.
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11-25-2013 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Flushtrated17
has anybody who was banned on SB/POnly and withdrew money after that, received the funds yet? Mine is still pending. Although they did give me a $10 free sports bet right after they banned me, HAHAHA.

Now that was a savvy business move... try to hook em with a $10 bet before they leave lol.


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