lol @ you using those hand simulations as if it proves anything.

lol what?

They're not exactly making their assumptions based on HHs.

3 pair ur right they don't. But his accounts did get suspended.

Rant if this is the case (which I hope it is) it would be nice if a merge rep clarified.

The evidence is overwhelming. Especially rainbow warriors find. While o8 or any group of poker group/games should police on their own they trust the sites to not only be able to detect it, but to properly investigate allegations very seriously. Merge seems like they did neither. Even if they do keep hh's they can't comment on specifics but the least they could have done was come in here and say that. Again it has done nothing. Shame on merge. You guys have the market wide open. So many players are looking to fill that void and you can't even fix a double rebuy? I was looking forward to ur tournament series announcement but after reading this thread I am quite skeptical for buying into higher events.

Why are we still arguing collusion in the HHs after what RW posted.

Very suspicious that Fridayblack and O8grinder who are both O8 regs on merge decided to play pretty high stake NLHE sit n gos against another O8 reg. I bet you cant find one case of Fridayblack or O8grinder playing anything NLHE with a buy in similar to that, unless it involves one of AJB4s alias accounts

who says i havent? thats irrelevant. do you have any stats on how many hands they've actually sat at the same table, no, probably very few. do you have any hands to show illustrate this, no. i pick up what is put down when it doesnt smell like crap.

those 6 kids, may need a new daddy pretty soon. you know wat i m saying it is?...

This issue must have struck a cord with you. You have a name from 2003 that hardly has been used and you posted more than once in a thread. Not sure what was so special about this versus other colluding stories.

might be worth a mod checking to see if AJB4 and 3 pair share an IP addy

lol, pretty sure he figured out how to use different IP addresses during his MA across at least 3 diff. accounts.

My guess is AJ is curdled up in fetal position under some rock ATM, and not even looking at this thread anymore.

He hasn't played on any of the merge accounts since the 23rd, so I would assume merge has banned him.

He hasn't played on stars since the 26th, hopefully they got him too...

It would be great to hear something from either of the sites, as if there will be any attempt to pay back the players he has stolen from.

Lets keep our eyes out for new regs popping up in the plo8 games on both sites.

He posted that Merge has suspended his account. To humor him he said they suspended his "horses" accounts as well. I believe if OP didn't post this, this would have taken a lot longer to be discovered. I hope this player had a lot of money that is too be taken away and hopefully it can be given to more deserving players that actually don't do shady practices.

This is GOLD btw, time to go back to work AJB, your not gonna make that 100k playing on one account in $10 plo8 mtts, maybe you could take up live poker? Orleans 4/8 limit O8 ftw?

I noticed at the beginning of the thread merge said all said players are from different parts of the world but ajb says one of the accounts is his wife. So his wife is in another part of the world or is using a vpn for some reason?

^ Yes, there are so many holes that some have been overlooked.

AJB4 do you mind giving us the names of your "other personal" merge accounts that you mentioned in post 131 of this thread?

ohai passthesalsa

STLPride was a well known reg and beast in plo and plo8 mtts before Black Friday, and is a much better player than AJB4. Many people, including myself, have met him irl. He is not passthesalsa, as obv AJB4 is passthesalsa.

That said, Brandon, you are correct in your critiques of my analysis of the HHs, I don't always read them as carefully as I should. But it sounds like you are defending AJB4, and I am not sure why.

Amazing stats btw Rainbow Warrior. I mean, wow, that is insane.

I obv assume that isn't passthesalsa, my bad for missing off the [sarcasm] tags.

I'm just catching up on all of this. I've got HH's vs. all of them as well, but I haven't had a chance to look through them. Can try to do so when I get a chance or send them to someone else if necessary.

There are plenty of models of how collusion missed by sites have been caught by two plus twoers (and proven here when a site doesn't care enough to do the work they are supposed to. )

A site really only has to put in some minimum effort to find out just how lazy they have been. Which of course is part of the issue.

is this your wife's account ajb4444?

+100000

You're clearly a very grounded individual, kudos.

Can we get a clear answer as to how far Merge's HHs database goes? I just don't buy this "we don't keep the hand histories". B/c if that's the case how can their security or fraud dep. do their job? Even a common scenario where fraudulent credit cards were used for deposits, would require access to HHs to track the $$$ of the fraudulent funds.

Maybe the individual skins don't have access to the HHs database, but it seem unlikely that Merge itself doesn't. We really need a statement from an official Merge rep on this issue!

But that would require them to do their job.

I'm pretty sure that this has been addressed before - maybe the girah thing ?

My understanding, as was said above, is that merge do have all the HHs, as you would expect. They don't have a method to export them without showing hole cards for all players, which is why they won't send them out.

Obviously I don't think they have tried too hard to create a software utility to export histories with only hero's cards, board & showdown hands, but there you go.