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Is Merge Security capable of policing games? Overwhelming Evidence of MERGE O8 Irregularities Is Merge Security capable of policing games? Overwhelming Evidence of MERGE O8 Irregularities

12-23-2011 , 11:15 PM
I stake a number of players. ANY coaching I do involves a staking contract. Both of these players have been coached extesnively. I am not sure either is "at my level" as someone has claimed...but they are both very good. Player to player transfers are allowed on Merge but only if players are on the same skin.

Again....Merge has made request in regards to my account and I will honor them.

I am moving on now. I appreciate the questions/comments and although I have not handled everything as well as I possibly could have I will try to do a better job in the future.

AJ
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12-23-2011 , 11:27 PM
Are you going to explain why u and your "horses" take the same days off?
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12-23-2011 , 11:41 PM
Or any of the other questions you have avoided?
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12-23-2011 , 11:45 PM
It appears that he figured out how multi-account by being on several skins at the same time through different IPs, VPN or whatever. If this is the case hopefully Merge can go back, check again and bust him.

I hope Merge & Merge skins are reading this thread. This is just another reason I have zero faith in Merge.
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12-23-2011 , 11:48 PM
Also, as "passthesalsa" is supposedly one of your horses, can u elaborate on why he waited until a week after black friday to come out of nowhere and be one of the best plo8 players on stars.

Its mind numbing that you think you can talk your way out of this.
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12-24-2011 , 12:09 AM
I guess it's just much easier to deal with merge silently, a company that benefits from his ma'ing, and so casually overlooks it. I wouldn't mind getting a merge/merge skin rep in here too.
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12-24-2011 , 12:38 AM
no suprise to me that AJB is a shady individual. not only multiaccounting but having THREE accounts in small field plo8 tourneys. I hope all of your money gets taken away you shady pos.
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12-24-2011 , 01:04 AM
There are no gray areas to their policies.

I respect their policies. There was a gray area as to an interpretation of one of their policies. They made it clear. I respect their decision and will abide by it going forward.
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12-24-2011 , 01:08 AM
The obvious point here i think is that if he was staking two different people why wouldnt he ask them to sign up for an account on the skin hes on? Merge is open to US players, no reason to not...Someone should contact carbonchris.
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12-24-2011 , 01:08 AM
With all due respect I will no longer be following the thread. The issue has been addressed. Merge has made clear their position and I will respect it.

All the issues brought forward in this thread will no longer be an issue going forward as their requests include remedies to the stated issues....which again I respect.
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12-24-2011 , 01:24 AM
With all due respect, you have been very vague with your responses. It is obvious that you are trying to shrug this off as nothing when in fact what were looking at are some pretty serious allegations. Regardless of if it's nothing or not, i think you owe the community more of an explanation then what you are giving. There are a lot of questions unanswered that any person innocent of these would have no problem addressing. Your responses have guilty written all over them.
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Its mind numbing that you think you can talk your way out of this.
I think he knows he can't talk his way out of this which is why he's trying to not have to.

Last edited by Gunth0807; 12-24-2011 at 01:53 AM.
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12-24-2011 , 01:28 AM
You're making yourself look really guilty. If the other accounts were actually stakees any reasonable person would just have them come post in the thread and confirm that they are those players. An innocent person would just do whatever they needed to make sure people didn't think they were a cheater. Rep is pretty important in the poker world.
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12-24-2011 , 02:12 AM
The response to this situation from Merge confirms my decision to never play on this corrupt network again. Thank you for discovering this OP and Hoss.
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12-24-2011 , 04:03 AM
I really can't see any innocent person acting and responding the way you are. I hope you get what you deserve.
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12-24-2011 , 04:18 AM
you guys need to get a life. if it doesn't directly affect you, or other players, why should any of you care? even if he was chip dumping, at least he was doing it in HU matches. you all know how hard it is to get money off these ****ing sites, leave him alone, especially if the site isn't going to care. if you don't like the way Merge handled it, move on to another site where you can stalk players and try to catch them doing something else that doesn't affect you or your peers.
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12-24-2011 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by olinolin
You're making yourself look really guilty. If the other accounts were actually stakees any reasonable person would just have them come post in the thread and confirm that they are those players. An innocent person would just do whatever they needed to make sure people didn't think they were a cheater. Rep is pretty important in the poker world.
lol, wtf is this? a REP is important in the poker world? ha! do you know his name? where he lives? online poker is anonymous for the most part, and if people wanted to lay low, they certainly could. what makes you think he gives a flying **** what any of you 2p2 police officers think?
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12-24-2011 , 04:22 AM
Without explaining exactly what you did that is in the grey area it really looks like you are guilty of ma'ing. op you should send a pm of this to the each merge reps here and ask them to look into the accounts that belong to their site.
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12-24-2011 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AJB4
With all due respect I will no longer be following the thread. The issue has been addressed. Merge has made clear their position and I will respect it.

All the issues brought forward in this thread will no longer be an issue going forward as their requests include remedies to the stated issues....which again I respect.
Congratulations on admitting guilt.


I think this is already a slam dunk case:

-Sharkscopes show an eerily similar personality
-Same off days
-Chip dumping vs xferring
-Lack of communication from AJB4 about what should be easy to answer questions if you weren't doing anything wrong at heart.
-Avoidance/dismissal
-This thread (How many people arbitrarily get accused of this on a whim beforehand?): http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../#post16622176


Without you stating clear cut answers to the harder questions for 2p2 to review it won't end up favorable for you in the long run. Refer to any 2p2 sleuth thread if you don't believe me.
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12-24-2011 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by yourewrong
you guys need to get a life. if it doesn't directly affect you, or other players, why should any of you care? even if he was chip dumping, at least he was doing it in HU matches. you all know how hard it is to get money off these ****ing sites, leave him alone, especially if the site isn't going to care. if you don't like the way Merge handled it, move on to another site where you can stalk players and try to catch them doing something else that doesn't affect you or your peers.
You're saying an individual playing on 3 diff accounts in the same MTT doesn't affect other players?
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12-24-2011 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by yourewrong
you guys need to get a life. if it doesn't directly affect you, or other players, why should any of you care? even if he was chip dumping, at least he was doing it in HU matches. you all know how hard it is to get money off these ****ing sites, leave him alone, especially if the site isn't going to care. if you don't like the way Merge handled it, move on to another site where you can stalk players and try to catch them doing something else that doesn't affect you or your peers.
No one cares if he was chip dumping to himself heads up. That's not the issue. The issue is that it is evidence to a much more serious allegation, that he is multi-accounting in the same tourney's. Playing in the same tourney under 3 different screen names effects every single player that he played with.
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12-24-2011 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AJB4
With all due respect I will no longer be following the thread. The issue has been addressed. Merge has made clear their position and I will respect it.

All the issues brought forward in this thread will no longer be an issue going forward as their requests include remedies to the stated issues....which again I respect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6zDygujgj4

On a more serious note, great job Gunth/Hoss.
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12-24-2011 , 09:17 AM
why am i not ***** surprised!

My interest/involved lies with pasthesalsa on stars

I am a reg o8 mtt player on stars. I ran into passthesalsa soon after BF. And have been running into him ever since and after a few heated discussions for whatever reason we seem to get involved in quite a few meaningful pots in mtt's over the weeks/months since then. With him playing super aggro against me so much convern in outplaying me and no concern in busting. Well i guess you dont when you have so many ***** accounts huh.

Anyway i knew fine well he was an old US reg and due to his playing style AJB was one of my main suspicions.

You don't just turn up a few days after BF with that aggro style and win so consistently from the get go.

I have written twice to stars support regarding passthesalsa as i was unhappy that he was a reg that clearly knew my game yet i didnt know who he was. Doesnt make a diference to me now but did for a while as he has a clear advantage.

I asked stars if they had let a relocated reg change names.

Stars said the account had been investigated and no issues with this account.

I knew it was bs and started to think stars knew who it was and was covering it up. Now i definetly do. If they investigated how could they not know it was a vpn account??

@AJB. Pretty disgusting all of this esp after the **** you have been saying to me on stars. We knew each other pretty well before and respected each others games. I'm just glad i have won the HU battles we have had or i'd prolly feel a bit more cheated than i do now.

Also this isnt the first time you have had multi accounting allegations. No fuel without fire right

Last edited by Mike Haven; 12-24-2011 at 01:23 PM.
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12-24-2011 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by HossDaBoss
Also, as "passthesalsa" is supposedly one of your horses, can u elaborate on why he waited until a week after black friday to come out of nowhere and be one of the best plo8 players on stars.

Its mind numbing that you think you can talk your way out of this.
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Originally Posted by truesyalose
no suprise to me that AJB is a shady individual. not only multiaccounting but having THREE accounts in small field plo8 tourneys. I hope all of your money gets taken away you shady pos.
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12-24-2011 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JHolsinger88
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6zDygujgj4

On a more serious note, great job Gunth/Hoss.
That is just too funny lol!

Where there is smoke, there is fire. I guess this person just wants to avoid talking about the issue and hope it goes away. Now would someone who has done nothing really act like that?
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12-24-2011 , 10:19 AM
Sounds pretty damn guilty to me. Little punk can't even come in here and explain himself , instead "Hey Guys Merge and me had a talk and everythings worked out, they realized how much I am raking and how I can be one of their sponsored pros someday, so were going to ignore it, you all carry on though."
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