The reason behind it has plenty to do with me and 2+2. There are unfortunately some pretty demented people on these forums who try to enact vendettas against people. I'm not going to get into details but I've been the victim of this. That kind of thing just shouldn't be rewarded; it just encourages more of the same.

Since this is Lock Poker that we are talking about it's very difficult to get money off the site. So it's entirely possible that someone who makes a living doing transfers would talk someone into making him separate accounts for the purpose of withdrawing. Using those accounts though to cheat is an entirely different matter. The problem though is that the OP has no conceivable way of proving, despite the fact that he is convinced that he has, that the same person is using both of those accounts. Cheating like that at such low stakes really doesn't make much sense to me.


I've never traded with Mega. I've only ever made one p2p trade about a year and a half ago and it wasn't with him. And I'm certainly not an affiliate nor have I ever been. I don't know where you get your ridiculous information from. Despite the fact that you say that you aren't making accusations, you really are; posters who take a different view than yours shouldn't be put on the defensive like that. You talk like you are the voice of god and that anyone who see things from a different perspective must, by definition, be wrong.

Seems like a pretty straight forward spot to have all of his accounts frozen and to be perma-banned, but wtf do I know. Hey if cheating is kosher, then let's just say it. If not, get rid of this guy and deter other scummy human entities from making the same mistakes.

Or we might, you know, allow a little bit of investigation first. Looking into things before taking action != cheating being kosher.

Hopefully OP reported this to Revolution Network for investigation. His account on 2p2 should be left to allow him to respond.

Yes, of course allow mega a day or two to formulate some kind of plausible story and move around funds into other unknown accounts. I don't play O8 and I could care less about this situation, but the level of naivete within a collection of so called geniuses baffles me.

Freezing accounts is one thing; pronouncing guilt, permabanning, and the other ridiculous suggestion you made (since deleted) is another.

And how much less could you care?

Holy derail, yes Bobo let's argue over semantics instead of focusing on the fact that mega is multi-accounting. I am quite sure if we opted for my ridiculous suggestion the problem would be resolved, but then again I don't believe in ghosts. Do you?

You suggested he be permabanned, I explained why we're not going to be doing that after this thread's been around for only 17 hours. Or if you meant the poker sites, then why they won't be doing it.

If you don't want threads derailed, stop jumping in with over-the-top suggestions and insults.

Is there any way to check his win rate against players he has berated in chat? Revenge is a huge motivating factor, especially if all he has to do is fire up another account to ambush his nemesis.

Received this from someone who wishes to remain anonymous:

Not only that, but he stated he created and named the account for her.

I mean, its trivial, but who doesnt create their own account? She wasnt capable of doing this herself? She is getting professional online poker training but cant create her own poker account? And who doesnt want to name their own account? Its kind of a fun part of getting started. Its the only chance you have to put a little personal touch on your account. It seems strange. Even if you were to create an account for someone you wouldnt ask them what theyd like their screen name to be? You would just inject a variation of your own name onto them? Really?

Also, the part about the "its me MEGA". That is bizarre. You are on the phone with a friend and shes multitabling and during your talk she decides to list every player at her tables for no reason? Even if thats true, why wouldnt she say, hey joe, Mega says hi. Who would ever type its me MEGA to relay that message?

I dont know if hes cheating or not but the above seemed off. If someone has chat log of the other account calling people **** too that would further hit the BS meter. There just arent as many females that would attack people in that way, the same way he does, so it would be quite a coincidence as well.

Can you explain what all of it means?

- So you just assume that the guy needs a second account to WD from Lock, but what about that account playing on the same table as him? You just give this guy a pass, but OP is scum because anonymous posters have before attacked people. But anonymous posters have also brought up very valid points and stayed anonymous for fear of retaliation. It certainly can be a thin line, but when there are so many valid questions and a lot of the OP is not speculative at all given the links and screenshots he's showing (and looks even more valid after the holes in the explanations from the accused), I don't see why you're so focused on OP still.

- I'm not the voice of God, I'm simply a poster reading the OP, reading the responses of the guy, and I don't see how it is reasonable to just conclude "OP is someone with an agenda and the Mega guy should be given a free pass."

In this world, a lot of the time people are calling others out for bad behavior, they do have an agenda. It should not distract people from the bad behavior to the extent it is with you, that is all I said.

Apologies on the p2p and affiliate stuff, I could've sworn you were an affiliate, but maybe I confused you with that Synergetic guy.

It means he just got caught lying in this thread, so you shouldn't believe anything else.

Anyway, I don't want to come off like I care about this guy. He doesn't affect my life in any way, he's just dumb, and your typical scummy poker player who gives all the good guys a bad name.

I am very curious why MD has not come back and answered the questions/accusations against him. I am also curious how many accounts he really has on each site. I would think with this many accusations piling up and noticed he has been on his 2+2 account on and off today/tonight he would have SOME answers?

Sometimes "silence" answers all your questions.

Did you guys already forget that he's on antibiotics? Jeez.

All the pissed off people = People who were using a VPN and are now shut off once again. OP, Congrats on catching a cheater but boooooooooooo for ruining it for other people on a VPN not cheating. I wish I would have been doing it.

How does he have 10k on Boyle if not using a VPN?

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lol, good job op exposing this piece of ****, <3 his initial responses and now his silence is just perfect

And you know what, thank goodness. Because, lets assume for a second Mega didn't sit with himself, taking advantage of a VPN. But do you think someone else hasn't thought of it? I'd have to imagine that this could be a huge issue going forward. Forget the US laws, just being able to have 2 laptops next to each other on 2 separate IP's is a major problem.

Here's to hoping sites can find a way to crack down on this.

$300 in your account and $200 of that is on the table? I hope you let your student know that that is horrible bankroll management.

you do realize that it's 2013, right?

Yes and it's still BS. Thanks, though, and yes, I've been around the block for many years. But every time a situation like this comes up, it makes me sick.

Yes. MulletMan2 and I have had multiple private correspondences about this.

I admire people who do what they think is right, except when what they think is right is unfairly damaging to someone else.

“Unfairly” is the key word in the foregoing sentence/paragraph.

If we’re certain the accused is guilty, that’s one thing, but what if the accused is innocent?

Two opposing points of view have been presented in this thread.

1. On one hand, poker players have a right to know when someone is a cheater.
2. On the other hand, someone accused of a crime in my country (USA) is entitled to know who his accuser is and is entitled to a fair trial by an impartial jury.

But in this case, the accuser is the anonymous “MegaIsCheating.” In addition, I think the “evidence” here would immediately or ultimately be ruled inadmissible in a court of law here (USA). Finally, most of the prominent posters in this thread can hardly be called an “impartial” jury.

For me it’s not a question of legality. (If it were, I’d defer to an attorney). It’s a matter of basic right and wrong. It doesn’t feel right to me to allow someone’s reputation to be besmirched on a forum I moderate without stronger proof than has been presented in this thread.

I don't think we'll see that unless there is a confession by the accused and that doesn't seem to be forthcoming.

That’s my opinion at this point.

Buzz