Countdown To pokerstars sit-out
As you probably heard by now, stars changed their rake system from dealt to WC and even worse they also
increased rake cap @ 5 players for 50%
Most of us already understand that this changes are bad for everyone BUT pokerstars. It doesn't matter if you are NIT,TAG or LAG you will pay more rake and get less rakeback it's as simple as that.
We will be starting mass sit-out on January 1st that will go on until stars reverse changes. Below are reasons why you should not only observe but also join us:
Shorthanded stars players:
We will be hurt the most, with rake cap change we will be paying A LOT more rake then before. Exact numbers are impossible to guess but let me give you example from another post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by starvingwriter82
This. As a six max player, 26% of my hands are played with five players at the table according to my HEM, and now all those hands are raked a dollar more.
Here's the basic breakdown:
Breakdown of hands:
2 Handed = 0.4% of hands (No rake change)
3 Handed = 1.5% (50% Increase)
4 Handed = 7.0% (25% Decrease)
5 Handed = 29.3% (50% Increase)
6 Handed = 61.9% (No rake change)
So for me, this is nothing but a rake hike, when I already play a game where even the best players are paying 3 times in rake (or more) than what they take home in profit.
Thanks a lot Pokerstars.
Most of us play ~30% of hands 5way and rake in this pots is going to be increased by 50% - For me this is unacceptable.
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Full-ring stars players:
You guys already know that you will loss a lot in rakeback but as you can see due to rake cap increase for 5 player hands a lot of us will be switching from SH to FR if those changes go trough.
This means even worse ratio of regular:fish in FR games.
Pokerstars LAGs:
I hear some players saying that this will really hurt NITs but tags and especially LAGs will loss just a little and with games potentially getting softer it could break-even.
WRONG!!! Check SNE and Stars official changes page and you will see that even players with VPIP around 20 at FR and SH players with around 30VPIP are still reporting at least 10% losses.
But how about games getting softer?
Sorry but pretty much all other sites changed rake from dealt to WC and majority can tell you that the games didn't get all that softer(few regulars might left but thats it), others will just adept one way or another.
It was different when FTP made changes because players at least had stars to escape to but now there are very few sites to go(more below).
MTT,SNG and players from other sites:
As I said before, some players will left CG and either start playing more tournaments or just switch to your site so this is bad for you as well. Obviously not nearly as bad as for
stars cash-game players but still.
Furthermore THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO SHOW ALL POKER SITES THAT THEY CAN'T JUST MESS WITH US AND EXPECT TO GET AWAY WITH IT !
We will wait until time this VPP year is over so we don't mess our SNE friends plans.
We need to be organized so below is countdown:
Countdown To pokerstars sit-out
Please forward this thread to your friends and link it around so we get the word out to all regulars.
Last edited by Mike Haven; 12-28-2011 at 04:17 PM.