***Mass Sitout to Protest PokerStars 2012 Rake Changes*** - Page 45 - Internet Poker

We can, 24 table on the cool hours and then just sit out for another couple of hours afterwards on all those days. Good incentive to open the 24 tables imo.

Also, using the chat on those hours is important to get the message across.

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12-30-2011 , 01:56 PM

#1103

jonwies

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,245

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Originally Posted by Ugly

should we make sure to sit out during happy hours?

Then stars wins. Abuse happy hour as much as you can and sit out the rest of the time

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12-30-2011 , 01:57 PM

#1104

BadbreathWeapon

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 63

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Originally Posted by jonwies

Then stars wins. Abuse happy hour as much as you can and sit out the rest of the time

I like how you think. Yea, play the 1 hour to take as much as possible, then sit out the rest

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12-30-2011 , 02:00 PM

#1105

ISelfTiLt

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 265

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Originally Posted by cal26

I will be sitting out in the micros and the low stakes, looks like most of you are sitting out in .50/1 and up, if you guys se them as full of sitouts when you join you should consider the micros, so that we cover the entire site.

I'll be doing the same. I know under 10nl wont be affected so much but I may one day get good at the game and be able to move up so I help get it sorted now.

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12-30-2011 , 02:06 PM

#1106

Jah Onion

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10,955

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Originally Posted by Ugly

should we make sure to sit out during happy hours?

definitely not. that would be the WORST time to sit out since stars would end up not having to give a lot of the extra vpps

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12-30-2011 , 02:07 PM

#1107

DonkeyFishFight

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,061

Isn't the point to sit out indefinitely? Not just sit out for some hours and then start playing during happy hour. You're paying them rake then too, you know.

If protesters start playing during happy hour then this little promotion has helped Stars an extreme amount in fighting the protest!

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12-30-2011 , 02:11 PM

#1108

TheMetetrown

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,287

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Originally Posted by DonkeyFishFight

Isn't the point to sit out indefinitely?

Yeah we start sitting out on Jan 1st at noon eastern and don't stop sitting out ever until they make concessions we are happy with.

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12-30-2011 , 02:17 PM

#1109

F### Forever

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 239

Srs screw that happy hour.

I always felt "one" with Stars and proud. Feels the opposite now. Like marriage and divorce...

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12-30-2011 , 02:25 PM

#1110

blueodum

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,295

If you don't like the changes at Stars just go somewhere else. Why do you think it's right to interfere with access to the fish for people who like the changes?

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12-30-2011 , 02:25 PM

#1111

Budhud

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 135

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Originally Posted by F### Forever

Srs screw that happy hour.

I always felt "one" with Stars and proud. Feels the opposite now. Like marriage and divorce...

Exactly how I feel ...

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12-30-2011 , 02:25 PM

#1112

insouciantone

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1

Where's the supposed dialogue that Stars wanted to have? doesn't exist!

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12-30-2011 , 02:26 PM

#1113

Shobun

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 399

jesus, don't let happy hour screw with you. A strike has a purpose and untill it's met it should go on (not untill stars offer some promotion for a couple of days and then asks you to bend over for the rest of the year)

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12-30-2011 , 02:28 PM

#1114

G3K0

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,234

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Originally Posted by Jkarioun

omg, obvious attempt from stars to defuse the mass sitout

or, completely unrelated to this, someone figured most ppl on the planet will be hungover to shipt on the 1st, just a thought.

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12-30-2011 , 02:30 PM

#1115

billybeartku

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,830

lamest attempt by PS with the happy hour offer. Seriously, huge failure. And they start the promo after our 1/1 sitout lolz.

Should we actually play those happy hours and sit out the rest of the time for the entire Jan?

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12-30-2011 , 02:31 PM

#1116

DonkeyFishFight

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,061

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Originally Posted by Ugly

should we make sure to sit out during happy hours?

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Originally Posted by Jah Onion

definitely not. that would be the WORST time to sit out since stars would end up not having to give a lot of the extra vpps

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Originally Posted by jonwies

Then stars wins. Abuse happy hour as much as you can and sit out the rest of the time

This is NOT the case.

If you start playing during Happy Hour just because you will get some extra VPPs/FPPs then Stars has effectively hurt the protest a ton!

Stars giving out extra VPPs is not important here. When you play during happy hour you're still paying them a ton of rake and enabling games to run, which gives them rake. You'd rather keep blocking games as much as you can to minimize the rake they receive.

You're NOT hurting them by playing during Happy Hour, you're HELPING them.

Last edited by DonkeyFishFight; 12-30-2011 at 02:38 PM.

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12-30-2011 , 02:33 PM

#1117

TheMetetrown

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,287

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Originally Posted by DonkeyFishFight

You're NOT hurting them by playing during Happy Hour, you're HELPING them.

This is a very important point.

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12-30-2011 , 02:38 PM

#1118

holdtard

newbie

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 22

Do not let them **** with your mind, DON'T PLAY AT HAPPY HOURS.

You are protesting... are you going to stop just because ****stars throw you little bones for a couple of days and then **** you the rest of the year/poker carreer there?

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12-30-2011 , 02:40 PM

#1119

starvingwriter82

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 7,793

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Originally Posted by DonkeyFishFight

This is not the case.

If you start playing during Happy Hour just because you will get some extra VPPs/FPPs then Stars has effectively hurt the protest a ton!

Stars giving out extra VPPs is not important here. When you play during happy hour you're still paying them a ton of rake and enabling games to run, which gives them rake. You'd rather keep blocking games as much as you can to minimize the rake they receive.

You're NOT hurting them by playing during Happy Hour, you're HELPING them.

This. The strike needs to be consistent and lengthy. Stars should look at their cash flow and go, "Oh, ****." Generating tons of rake for them during happy hours is going exactly the wrong direction.

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12-30-2011 , 02:41 PM

#1120

Shobun

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 399

For this to have any effect it's important for us to be unified, for us to argue about a small ****ty thing like happy hr is very stupid.

Also I find it quite disappointing stars posted that page online without making any response here or at the vip changes thread

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12-30-2011 , 02:45 PM

#1121

Fergastra

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 582

Happy Hours is just that, It lasts exactly one hour every day, so instead of grinding for 8 hours in order to be on my individual pace, I only have to grind for 7.5 for one month in 2012 and be screwed for the other 11 months?

Uhm no, sorry but thats not good enough

Edit: I agree with the other posters, fellow striker dont be blinded by this happy hour promo!

Last edited by Fergastra; 12-30-2011 at 02:46 PM. Reason: bla

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12-30-2011 , 02:48 PM

#1122

billybeartku

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,830

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Originally Posted by TheMetetrown

This is a very important point.

point taken, not gonna play on happy hours. let's keep sitting out. I'd do it for as long as it takes. Even if it's a one month sit out.

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12-30-2011 , 02:50 PM

#1123

ArtySmokes

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,999

Are all the nits gonna strike for just one day? How about they strike all year long, or go and get a proper job doing data entry? No one's gonna miss you.

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12-30-2011 , 02:54 PM

#1124

Fergastra

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 582

Well, no matter how this turns out, the past 36 hours have educated a lot of ppl about the effect rake has.. . Just look at the amount of first posts in this or the other thread.

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12-30-2011 , 02:55 PM

#1125

The Elephant Man

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 20

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Originally Posted by ArtySmokes

Are all the nits gonna strike for just one day? How about they strike all year long, or go and get a proper job doing data entry? No one's gonna miss you.

Oh it's you Mr. NL6 superstar

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