***Mass Sitout to Protest PokerStars 2012 Rake Changes*** - Page 12 - Internet Poker

Styla:
Movement is not for going back to dealt, it's against the increased 5-handed rakecap and not adjusting the VIP program to rake distribution change. Nobody (well, the big majority) is saying they should go back to dealt, they should simply adjust their VIP program so that same $$$ amount would be paid in bonuses instead of the moneygrab they currently plan on doing.

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12-28-2011 , 08:12 PM

#277

paletokio

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,238

Surprised the auto sit out 5 handed AHK isnt posted yet.

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12-28-2011 , 08:12 PM

#278

jspill

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,644

28 people like the facebook page so far

http://www.facebook.com/pages/PokerS...628469?sk=wall

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12-28-2011 , 08:14 PM

#279

Cardsfan2006

adept

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 838

Guess we can't count on the Pokercast to cover this story.

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12-28-2011 , 08:14 PM

#280

Queen6Suited

banned

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,876

in for sure, 24 tables of 50nl blocked

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12-28-2011 , 08:17 PM

#281

luckproof

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,935

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoemaker

Updated list:

1. MSauce
2. badbeatLOL
3. DonkDonkDonkDonk
4. tercet
5. checkraise1
6. jspill
7. 8Nilor
8. Stanko
9. HiLo66
10. BennyQuack
11. Omrell
12. gNT
13. Budhud
14. Marge147
15. Rorry666
16. starvingwriter82
17. Shobun
18. ROM Amnesty
19. brrrap!
20. The Elaphant Man
21. QuarterTon
22. locoo20
23. aljufo
24. Ugly
25. CrazyJoe
26. LusciousLP
27. ImpulseKid
28. therightdeal
29. chavarie
30. lennois
31. Mamut
32. JesusEatsCheese
33. muppetx
34. paletokio
35. lucknotskill
36. Radish
37. krmont22
38. ferdinand bardamu
39. x_ROSH125_x
40. the village idiot1
41. FlushYourAcehole
42. luckproof
43. stratomx
44. DiCanio
45. stratomx
46. DoMeTrue
47. Cherufe
48. Beto0o
49. CoreyStill
50. Lamb of God
51. Jah Onion
52. usernameslol
53. StakesAreHigh
54. Mrtrebus
55. RYMJ9017MD
56. Mayox
57. railgun
58. anyace123
59. yashka
60. jeanchris
61. guidosuller
62. Klakteuh
63. JackBurton
64. Ryuho
65. Moke
66. keane_mark2
67. Joeyons
68. rfaaraaa
69. Cashflood
70. Shobun
71. Don Melchor
72. Azalin
73. Gorvacofin
74. chinz
75. clawindsouza
76. plogrammer
77. Invertible
78. AgressiveDog
79. AcesBurning
80. myNameIsInga
81. adam001
82. Sharkament
83. HugeDonk
84. Sly Scorpion
85. ssletten10
86. Reg74
87. Termiraker
88. whamm
89. F### Forever
90. kelnel
91. richsmith0810
92. DiggertheDog
93. Awake_
94. Lavode
95. Czar Chasm
96. rafaello
97. Snowman808
98. Fletchdad
99. Jolly2702
100. GotBluffing
101. Shoemaker
102. Micke Er
103. potconTROLL

Sorry if missed anyone feel free to add. That's 98x24 = 2352 seats taken up thus far. If done right this will be a big movement.

#***********stars

i'm still in the US and wont be back on PS until mid Jan, if its still going on i'm def in. (#42)

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12-28-2011 , 08:17 PM

#282

Jah Onion

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10,955

guys, when this happens, try to be efficient. aka if there's 3 ppl sitting out at 6max table, dont join them, choose different table

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12-28-2011 , 08:19 PM

#283

shoemaker

adept

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 825

Here is the pic to use as avatar. It's important we get as many players as possible on this.

Twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/OccupyPS

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12-28-2011 , 08:20 PM

#284

jspill

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,644

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Originally Posted by chinz

Nobody is saying they should go back to dealt

meh, speak for yourself. just a site-wide rake increase by another name. but i'll protest true percentage rake, increased caps, and no fpp multiplier compensation too

Last edited by jspill; 12-28-2011 at 08:40 PM.

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12-28-2011 , 08:24 PM

#285

Style129

centurion

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 182

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinz

Im in then for sure

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12-28-2011 , 08:25 PM

#286

brrrap!

banned

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,096

avatars itt

Last edited by brrrap!; 12-28-2011 at 08:32 PM.

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12-28-2011 , 08:26 PM

#287

DaBigBoss86

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 656

NICE!

regs sitting out = fishy games = profit for players not sitting out

I'm just kidding ...

Count me in!

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12-28-2011 , 08:26 PM

#288

paletokio

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,238

Occupy PokerStars Blog should be a good place to show all points clear or at least edit the OP before the 30.

*Best times to protest
*Have the clear petition
*Short chat message
*Occupy seats in another table if 2 seats are already taken ¨6max ¨
*Consistency weekend after weekend (If its actually decided to do it on weekends)
*_______

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12-28-2011 , 08:29 PM

#289

MSauce

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,363

Like I said before iwill edit OP to include everything tomorrow.

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12-28-2011 , 08:31 PM

#290

TheRattler

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 79

This guy just added me on twitter http://twitter.com/#!/***********STAR

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12-28-2011 , 08:32 PM

#291

Ricepaw1226

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,986

anybody have a link to find what days stars' peak times are?
i forget the website atm...

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12-28-2011 , 08:32 PM

#292

StephenKnight86

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 446

I'm in can help block some tables of NL25 or NL50 PLO/NLHE

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12-28-2011 , 08:33 PM

#293

paletokio

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,238

http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail...05#PeakHistory

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12-28-2011 , 08:33 PM

#294

shoemaker

adept

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 825

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinz

Exactly this, althought it doesn't really matter what type of changes you want. The way I see it, we are showing the sites that we will not stand idle by and let them take more and more money for themselves.

Look at the direction Bodog (Taking a vital skill aspect away from the game, no reads), Everleaf (Winners are not allowed to sit certain tables), Enet (€100 rake cap) and now stars wants some more too. For ****s sake.

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12-28-2011 , 08:36 PM

#295

brutti

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,423

In it to block 24 tables. Lets do it!

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12-28-2011 , 08:38 PM

#296

jasonf9ace

newbie

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 37

SnG grinder in

#***********stars

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12-28-2011 , 08:39 PM

#297

ant___z

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 677

I wrote this on the other topic but it is highly pertinent to this one too, so there it goes:

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it would be very useful to get a comparison of rake new versus old across the board.

Not charts with rake, but simulations over a sample of real hands played. Charts are misleading and what happens to the total rake taken depends greatly on the distribution of pot sizes and number of players.

I made it for one stake/game (and I play a range of 5 stakes) and I cant give more time to this for the moment to check the others stakes leave alone try to figure it to stakes/games where I have little to none information but with several players contributing to it, it would be easier.

Otherwise we will have to wait until 1/2 January to figure the overall scenario...

The stake I "tested" is 2/4 FL 6max and the result was an increase of rake taken of about 10% more thant it is at the present.

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12-28-2011 , 08:40 PM

#298

El-Sheik

adept

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 754

Could a mod modify the OP after the dates are settled?

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12-28-2011 , 08:40 PM

#299

ant___z

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 677

I wrote this on the other topic but it is highly pertinent to this one too, so there it goes:

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The stake I "tested" is 2/4 FL 6max and the result was an increase of rake taken of about 10% more thant it is at the present.

Adding to this rake increase, also rakeback will decrease since the new method being WC so it goes up both ways (more rake taken up front, less given back in rewards).

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12-28-2011 , 08:41 PM

#300

HiLo66

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 370

I'm already boycotting Stars. I will come back on Jan 1st for the sit out. I've emailed my VIP rep already and stated my point. Let's hope Stars sees the light and/or fires some people to get the company back to what it was. This may be it for me, in 2011 I got over 300k vpps, that's a lot of rake they may miss out on.

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