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I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers!

09-29-2009 , 10:05 PM
when did anyone notice their DB was offline? once they destroy all the DB records........

i hope no one was owed much by these clowns
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09-29-2009 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyTrev
Shouldn't "Stay away from Pitbull Poker" and "Pitbull Poker Support" be merged and leave the super user thread as is?

Those other two were for players wanting payouts or discussing how crappy the site is, but this thread has all of the information regarding the security issues.
Ummm, the site is closed down now dude. There aren't any security issues now, or any payout issues. It's all over.
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09-29-2009 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Ummm, the site is closed down now dude. There aren't any security issues now, or any payout issues. It's all over.
But why add all of that to this already long thread? It's pages and pages of players discussing the site's support and withdrawal issues whereas this thread was kind of the beginning of the end for Pitbull.
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09-29-2009 , 10:29 PM
How about we all just agree to keep discussion to this thread now? I don't really care as long as there aren't three active threads all discussing the same thing anymore.
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09-29-2009 , 10:36 PM
Maybe 5dimes will buy them and all the old accounts out
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09-29-2009 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chesterboy
How about we all just agree to keep discussion to this thread now? I don't really care as long as there aren't three active threads all discussing the same thing anymore.
Right, that's why I thought you starting that new thread and if mods would locking the other 3 threads a good idea, but I guess they don't agree.
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09-29-2009 , 11:10 PM
it said on the pic club website that the owner of pitbull was arrested. They were an ewallet that could be used to transfer funds to pitbull. They said they would try to help recover funds. F pitbull I lost 2500 there!
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09-30-2009 , 12:12 AM
Well, I just logged into this thread for the first time in a few days and all I can say is that a huge smile is running across my face. While I realize this is still far from over, I want to thank Chester personally for all his hard work and dilligence, especially over the past few months.

I also want to thank him again for validating that indeed, Phoenixx, was a super and that I spotted his dumbass for slow playing those Aces vs. me in 5/10 limit holdem. But this also brings up a fact I hope you all do not overlook: Dave's analysis of this hand that I posted in the other thread that now proves he knew of wrongdoing while it was occuring.

And while I'm happy too that Dave has 'returned', I do not buy his BS and neither should anyone else. He's only trying to save his own ass and claim innocense when thousands, upon thousands of dollars were 'unknowingly' being cheated out of customers such as myself and other legit Pitbull players.

Additionally, I don't buy the line about cheating to break even because people do not cheat to break even. You cheat to gain. What, was there some kind of Pitbull poker boss that went around making sure everyone's profits and losses equalled 0? No, you're not getting off that easy and if there's anyone buying your **** now, shame on them.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. This isn't Enron, you're guilty, move on, next. It's sickening and here's to hoping this story blows up in more than just poker websites and publications. Believe me, if ever see Kevin or your name attached to anything poker related it will be too soon and I sure as hell won't be participating.

Sorry if I got off on that rant, but f'it, I truly believed I was cheated several times, just like I was cheated at Full Tilt for a number that essentially wiped me out as a full-time poker player. That's the only good that something like this brings: brings people like me back to reality.

Again, thanks to all of the 2+2'ers who have kept this thread alive (spacebidder, heavytrev, etc.). Zingbust, if you ever did compute my win % with the histories I sent you, I'd like to see them for humor purposes.

I still think this thing isn't over but we're now on the downward side of the bell-shaped curve. Congrats to everyone and my sympathies for all who did not clear their money before today's closing (I lost $3, and I'm still furious).

Here's to Kevin and company get what's coming to him...

'Cheers'

-Mike
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09-30-2009 , 12:26 AM
From the other thread, after calling out Phoenixx for obvious superusing:

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Hi,

To clarify:

"I hope you understand our position and see there is NO foul play on the two hands you mentioned."

Thank you.

Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Poker
Pitbull Partners
I hope you understand that I thought you were the lowest form of creation then, only to be rebutted that you've sunk even lower now. gg, Dave.
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09-30-2009 , 12:35 AM
Dave,

"Listen, if you didn't know you're bein' scammed, you're too ****in' dumb to keep this job. If you did know, you were in on it. Either way, you're out. Get out! Go on. Let's go."

-Ace
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09-30-2009 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BCloud
just like I was cheated at Full Tilt for a number that essentially wiped me out as a full-time poker player
Sorry come again? Is there a post about this you could link?
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09-30-2009 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Deuce2High
Dave,

"Listen, if you didn't know you're bein' scammed, you're too ****in' dumb to keep this job. If you did know, you were in on it. Either way, you're out. Get out! Go on. Let's go."

-Ace
wow, this, gg pitbull
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09-30-2009 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HeavyTrev
Sorry come again? Is there a post about this you could link?
I never posted this--basically I got took for an enormous amount of money a few years ago (by my standards anyways) over at Full Tilt which forced me to give up poker for over a year and half and work an everyday job. I was just as adament then with them as I was with Pitbull about being cheated, though I wasn't a person who frequented this message board or any others to discuss these matters. Anyways, about a year after the last hand I played at FTP I received an email from FTP saying that they were aware of automated software (I assume bots, possibly supers and collusion) had been used against me and credited my account like a couple hundred dollars. I have the email saved if you'd like to view it.

Pitbull poker was actually the next website i ever played on, because after finding out I wasn't really crazy about being cheated, I heard about this soft site with great rakeback. I went 2 for 2, what can I say?
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09-30-2009 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BCloud
I never posted this--basically I got took for an enormous amount of money a few years ago (by my standards anyways) over at Full Tilt which forced me to give up poker for over a year and half and work an everyday job. I was just as adament then with them as I was with Pitbull about being cheated, though I wasn't a person who frequented this message board or any others to discuss these matters. Anyways, about a year after the last hand I played at FTP I received an email from FTP saying that they were aware of automated software (I assume bots, possibly supers and collusion) had been used against me and credited my account like a couple hundred dollars. I have the email saved if you'd like to view it.

Pitbull poker was actually the next website i ever played on, because after finding out I wasn't really crazy about being cheated, I heard about this soft site with great rakeback. I went 2 for 2, what can I say?
Bots and collusion aren't the site doing it. You didn't encounter superusers at Full Tilt, you encountered ordinary cheating players that are on every site. You shouldn't lump that together. PBP was/is a cheating scam site, but there's never been any evidence like that about FT. With 1,000 times the player base of PBP, it would be found out that much quicker if it were going on.

Last edited by spadebidder; 09-30-2009 at 01:10 AM.
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09-30-2009 , 01:08 AM
So which post clarified that sooperusers were indeed found here . Can someone post a link ? I was not aware that this was proven yet .Thanx .
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09-30-2009 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Nutz?
So which post clarified that sooperusers were indeed found here . Can someone post a link ? I was not aware that this was proven yet .Thanx .
I don't think enough evidence ever came out to prove superusers. They never gave up the hand histories. In the process of deceiving everyone about when the HH's would be released PB was found to be doing other shady things, mostly because the were caught in lie after lie.
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09-30-2009 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Bots and collusion aren't the site doing it. You didn't encounter superusers at Full Tilt, you encountered ordinary cheating players that are on every site. You shouldn't lump that together. PBP was/is a cheating scam site, but there's never been any evidence like that about FT. With 1,000 times the player base of PBP, it would be found out that much quicker if it were going on.
Space, check you inbox. And to everyone, I didn't mean to equate the two sites, was only ranting about being cheated out of money from using both sites. What Pitbull is completely separate issue and sorry if the mention of FTP derailed this thread's intentions.
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09-30-2009 , 01:35 AM
Super User info Chesterboy released:

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Originally Posted by chesterboy
Also I think it is now time to reveal some more details. Here is a post I have written this morning and been going back and forth on whether or not I should publish. I don't want to give away all this info to Kevin and company but I feel at this point I won't have a chance to go any further with it. No sense being sneaky anymore when it appears the rats have all abandoned the sinking ship.


"Well I wasn't sure if I should post this or not and decided at this point I might as well. Here is my reasoning:

1. If the arrest story is true, it doesn't matter anymore anyways.
2. If they are on to me and this is all a diversion/excuse while they clear records and change accounts it doesn't matter anymore either because I won't be able to continue the investigation.

Anyways, I have been continuing the investigation in private for a while now.

Here is some information we have been able to gather:

-They were continuing to use the cheating accounts to boost traffic to keep the site alive. They were doing their best to break even so as to attract as little attention as possible.

-Every account has an account number that is used to ID players. When they change their screen names the account number stays the same.

Here are the account numbers with superusing ability:

10050, 184515, 184518, 184525, 184522, 184530, 184566, 10014, 194526, 194532, 194536, 194538, 194546, 194549, 320796, 320799, 320802, 320806, 320809, 320811, 320813, 320815, 320818, 320820, 320822, 320823, 320826, 320829, 320834, 361163, 361172, 361185, 361192, 361197, 361203, 361229, 361240, 361482, 361493, 361603, 362558, 362565, 362580, 362587, 362598, 363896, 366448, 366455, 367438, 367521, 367559, 367578, 367615, 367649,
431132, 431139, 431140, 431149, 431156, 431164, 431193, 431214, 431219, 431225

There may be more, but these are all known acct id's we have.

-We have the ability to obtain account numbers from screen names. I think that they realized we were doing this and that his why they took the servers down.

Here are the cheating screen names we identified before they pulled the servers:

Phoenixx=320818
windmaster=367578
academy=362558

These screen names were in use very recently. All other screen names suspected of cheating have had their account numbers removed before we were able to query them.

I had just taken steps last night to query a large number of screen names, and hours later the servers were taken down. "
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09-30-2009 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BCloud
Well, I just logged into this thread for the first time in a few days and all I can say is that a huge smile is running across my face. While I realize this is still far from over, I want to thank Chester personally for all his hard work and dilligence, especially over the past few months.

(I lost $3, and I'm still furious).



'Cheers'

-Mike

JHC man!! people lost thousands and thousands, and you come into this thread boasting that you were right and patting yourself on the back?

you are one sorry SOB imo.
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09-30-2009 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by novahunterpa
I don't think enough evidence ever came out to prove superusers. They never gave up the hand histories. In the process of deceiving everyone about when the HH's would be released PB was found to be doing other shady things, mostly because the were caught in lie after lie.

So why is he congratulating and thanking everyone for ? They are scumbags and the site shut down . How does that warrant congratulations ?

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09-30-2009 , 01:55 AM
so are they close for good and if so what is going to happend with the money????????/
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09-30-2009 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GrannyMae
JHC man!! people lost thousands and thousands, and you come into this thread boasting that you were right and patting yourself on the back?

you are one sorry SOB imo.
I think he posted that he had a smile because Kevin was arrested? This player was one of the first to bring up the cheating allegations when Dave still posted on 2P2.

I just didn't see his post as boasting in any way other than "F**k You Pitbull, I knew you were scum"
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09-30-2009 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
You didn't encounter superusers at Full Tilt, you encountered ordinary cheating players that are on every site.
There... are?
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09-30-2009 , 02:26 AM
Wow that mean superuser accounts? Ive been playing with them for the last month? J e s u s.
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09-30-2009 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mio
so are they close for good and if so what is going to happend with the money????????/
Money gone! That's why close for good. No money, no business.

Try Stars or Tilt, good bonus nice software. 100% less super users than Pitbull Poker (until 2P2 proves otherwise).
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