Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers!

09-12-2009 , 11:32 AM
I like playing on little sites. The games are usually soft and you really get to know the player pool. And 100% RB obviously. I'm playing on stars now after this bad experience though.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-12-2009 , 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Why even play at that crappy little site?
Lots of reasons. Small sites often have 75% rb or better. Games are good, especially if you like short handed. At one time I had money on 5 or 6 small sites. I would open all of them and sit and wait for the a live one. However, since the economy went south small sites have suffered greatly. I had a huge run at a site called pokerworld one year.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-12-2009 , 01:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pigbot
I had a huge run at a site called pokerworld one year.

I loved pokerworld. That site was awesome. I ran 10 bucks into 30k in a month on there. I agree it seems like the small sites have really gone downhill the last year.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-13-2009 , 12:54 PM
I'm IP banned so I can't do this. Can you guys please periodically open pb and write down who is playing at .50/1 and higher and post it here?

Also if anyone still has funds there please PM me if you didn't already.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-14-2009 , 12:48 AM
Oh they're still going strong at PB?? What 40 players at peak hours?
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-14-2009 , 04:36 AM
I had $25 left in my account so i thought I'd go see if I could spot any suspicious behaviour at $1 blinds NL. There was one guy Pokerkiev who was showing the signs with some very odd plays. Eventually I got bored and warned the table about suspicious activity on the site and linked them to this thread. Maybe it's coincidence but pokerkiev immediately left.

Anyone else have any experience with this player? I played about 30-40 hands and never saw him lose a showdown (I know this means nothing for such a small sample of NL).
Some strange hands:

1. just called down with nut straight, no flush. (i know this makes little sense for a superuser but the players i suspected also did this. Maybe they think it takes suspicion away. lol)

2. donk min bet top pair vs a worse top pair on every street and got raised every time

3. min bet tpgk vs a gutshot then checked on river

I'm not claiming this is proof by any means and could just be utterly ******ed play, but I find the fact he immediately left when I warned the table as very suspicious. Maybe u guys have experience of this player?
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-15-2009 , 01:30 AM
Pitbull Poker Changes Cashout Policy Amid Superuser Allegations

By Sean Gibson for POKER NEWS DAILY | Posted on September 14, 2009

In recent months as posted on the TwoPlusTwo forums, a group of users headed by “Chesterboy” made a claim that they believe that small poker site Pitbull Poker had superusers. A superuser is one that cannot only see his or her hole cards, but also the hole cards of the other players at the table. A similar controversy was revealed on Absolute Poker and UltimateBet with millions of dollars having changed hands. This time around, the scale of the accusations is much smaller, but the premise remains the same.

Although Pitbull Poker has declined media requests for direct interviews, they have been responding on the forums. In our previous interview with Chesterboy, Pitbull Poker’s manager, Dave Brenes, was asked to provide hand histories for the online poker community to analyze. Brenes and Pitbull Poker agreed and forked over the last 1,000 hands that Chesterboy played on the site. Unfortunately, the poker community was not pleased with this action because Chesterboy stated he stayed away from players he believed to be superusers over the last few thousand hands played on the site. Instead, he asked for hands specific to a time period and game he felt was rigged. Hands during that time period were never provided and players were once again at square one with their investigation.

Since the controversy gained momentum in the mainstream poker media, traffic has steadily declined at the small Flash-based online poker site. Other issues have been reported, including problems cashing out of the site. Some players involved with the scandal who have publicly aired their voices on TwoPlusTwo, including Chesterboy, have been IP banned by Pitbull Poker.

Some players have been trying to withdraw their bankrolls from Pitbull Poker unsuccessfully. One player who claims to have tried an eWallet Express transaction for $3,600 was only approved to withdraw $100. The maximum cashout has been changed to $1,000 over seven days, as stated by Pitbull Poker management.

This past week, user “BCloud” on the forums says he has 10,000+ hands that are available for anyone who would like to evaluate them for study. One well-known member, “zingbust,” has taken him up on the offer and many others are expected to follow. BCloud claims that some of the hands are against players who have been suspected of being superusers.

Many of these alleged superusers have now disappeared off the site. Nevertheless, many on the forums feel that the superusers are actually still playing on the site, just with new account screen names. However, with such minimal traffic, there isn’t quite the industry buzz for this controversy like those that have appeared in the past.

For now, it seems that most players who have any funds on Pitbull Poker are trying to get them off in a hurry. The new maximum withdrawal is extremely small compared to other sites, with no comment from management as to the change in transaction policy.

Pitbull Poker is part of the Flash Poker Network, which currently ranks as the smallest out of the 22 poker sites recognized on PokerScout..com. The site has a peak of approximately 50 players at ring games with traffic continuing to decline.

Poker News Daily is in contact with Chesterboy and others involved with the research of hands from Pitbull Poker and will be updating our readers as details are known.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-15-2009 , 04:49 PM
bump
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-15-2009 , 11:29 PM
thanks, Heavy for keeping this relevant. It seems this issue is evaporating and no one cares anymore.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-16-2009 , 12:26 AM
99.99% of this forum shouldn't care, because NOBODY plays there!!!

But I still hope everyone gets paid before they go under, the Eurolinx/Pitbull type sites just cause problems for everyone else.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-16-2009 , 12:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyTrev
99.99% of this forum shouldn't care, because NOBODY plays there!!!
I think all poker players have an interest in the integrity of online poker as a whole.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-16-2009 , 02:33 AM
I wouldn't still be so adamant about seeing them go under if I didn't agree with you.

People who have followed this thread from the beginning can see what is happening. Pitbull first denies, then lies, then leaves the forum and now hopes everyone just stops talking about the complete lack of security and the fact their payouts seem to be stopping for the few people who are still owed money.

I just hope the last people get paid out before the inevitable happens to them. We've all seen it before when the payouts slow down and then the site goes down.

Chesterboy and the other players are going to have to accept the fact that they aren't going to get the information they wanted to prove the site had super users. Anyone with a half a brain should be suspicious of Pitbull Poker of course, but there just isn't much anyone can do to prove this when Pitbull goes to such great lengths to hide information from their players.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-16-2009 , 02:27 PM
http://www.onlinepokernews.org/poker...ull-poker/1216


Quote:
There has been a lot of talk about a cheating scandal involving “super user accounts” at Pitbull Poker lately. Since the accusations started the staff at Pitbull Poker have stopped replying to customers emails and theyare no longer sending out any hand histories to their players. And to top it off there have been a lot of cashout problems lately after Pitbull Poker decided to cap the payout requests at $100 per account.
Click link for full story

Looks like PB poker is still in the news, this isn't going away like they hoped for.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-16-2009 , 04:36 PM
Pitbull Poker is a f--king scam. I made a deposit of 300$ in early August and built it up to over 3,000$. I made my initial withdrawal request over six weeks ago (for 2,000$). They told me all was good and the check was on the way, affirming this a few times. Three weeks later, no check. I start correspondence again and they say they need more paperwork, copy of passport, etc. I quickly give them everything requested and they assure me now, OK the check is on the way... three more weeks. Three more weeks have passed and nothing.

Original withdrawal request 08/01


"I would like to apologize for the delay in your paper check cash out. At Pitbull Poker, we try to process your cash out request as fast as possible. I have forwarded your inquiry to our withdrawals department to help speed up this process. However, please note that paper checks take around 15 business days to be delivered to you.

Our number one priority here at PitbullPoker is ensuring that you enjoy your experience with us. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. We are available for you 24/7!

Zack
Customer Support Team" (08/14)

"Your payout was processed today, you will receive your paper check in the next 14 days, sorry about the delay now you can expect your check on September 11th, 2009," (08/24)

"Thank you for staying in touch with us.

We are sorry about the delay with your payout; you can expect to receive tomorrow." (09/11)

"Thank you for staying in touch with us.

If you don't receive this check by tomorrow you may contact us back again." (09/11)

"Hello,
Thank you for your e-mail and your patience. its on the way to you you just need to wait.
If you need any further assistance please feel free to let us know via email
Rob (Support Team)
PitbullPoker" (09/13)

"Hello,
Thank you for your e-mail and your patience. Your account payout will be ready by the end next week." (09/16) (I have received this response verbatim, poor grammar and all, about 5 times!)

I've requested a phone number to speak with someone:
"Hello,
Thank you for your e-mail and your patience. We currently dont have any number for support all issues are handled by email." (09/16)


Be CAREFUL. Do not trust this crappy little site. Pitbull is a terrible little company with awful customer service. I dont think I'll ever see the thousands I won and I'm worried they will steal even the initial 300 I deposited. BE CAREFUL.

Liars and thieves...
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-16-2009 , 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by novahunterpa
http://www.onlinepokernews.org/poker...ull-poker/1216




Click link for full story

Looks like PB poker is still in the news, this isn't going away like they hoped for.
Unless you guys have got some new information, they weekly cap was suppose to be 1000 $ pr week not 100, but that does not really mather beacouse they cant even follow there own policys.

Every coupple of days when i mail them and ask if i will get my money, they just say next week.

I dont think there even is a weekly cash out limit , there is nothing about it on there site, just something they told me to buy them self some time.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-16-2009 , 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stillwaiting
Pitbull Poker is a f--king scam. I made a deposit of 300$ in early August and built it up to over 3,000$. I made my initial withdrawal request over six weeks ago (for 2,000$). They told me all was good and the check was on the way, affirming this a few times. Three weeks later, no check. I start correspondence again and they say they need more paperwork, copy of passport, etc. I quickly give them everything requested and they assure me now, OK the check is on the way... three more weeks. Three more weeks have passed and nothing.

Original withdrawal request 08/01


"I would like to apologize for the delay in your paper check cash out. At Pitbull Poker, we try to process your cash out request as fast as possible. I have forwarded your inquiry to our withdrawals department to help speed up this process. However, please note that paper checks take around 15 business days to be delivered to you.

Our number one priority here at PitbullPoker is ensuring that you enjoy your experience with us. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. We are available for you 24/7!

Zack
Customer Support Team" (08/14)

"Your payout was processed today, you will receive your paper check in the next 14 days, sorry about the delay now you can expect your check on September 11th, 2009," (08/24)

"Thank you for staying in touch with us.

We are sorry about the delay with your payout; you can expect to receive tomorrow." (09/11)

"Thank you for staying in touch with us.

If you don't receive this check by tomorrow you may contact us back again." (09/11)

"Hello,
Thank you for your e-mail and your patience. its on the way to you you just need to wait.
If you need any further assistance please feel free to let us know via email
Rob (Support Team)
PitbullPoker" (09/13)

"Hello,
Thank you for your e-mail and your patience. Your account payout will be ready by the end next week." (09/16) (I have received this response verbatim, poor grammar and all, about 5 times!)

I've requested a phone number to speak with someone:
"Hello,
Thank you for your e-mail and your patience. We currently dont have any number for support all issues are handled by email." (09/16)


Be CAREFUL. Do not trust this crappy little site. Pitbull is a terrible little company with awful customer service. I dont think I'll ever see the thousands I won and I'm worried they will steal even the initial 300 I deposited. BE CAREFUL.

Liars and thieves...
Seems your in the same boat as me, there is numerous 2p2ers waiting for their cash out.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-16-2009 , 05:01 PM
LOL you guys just need to be patient

they say your will get paid

Quote:
"Hello,
Thank you for your e-mail and your patience. its on the way to you you just need to wait.
If you need any further assistance please feel free to let us know via email
Rob (Support Team)
PitbullPoker"
See PB poker is on top of the it
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-17-2009 , 01:58 AM
www.cctvpoker.com
WTF is this?? Has anyone ever played on this "skin" of Pitbulls? It looks so ridiculous, it almost requires it's own thread in BBV.

Pitbull Gaming is pleased to announce the signing of CCTVPoker.com. With a large exposure on the Asian market CCTV Poker will lead the network to new horizons and will bring the Chinese players a comfortable solution for their poker needs.

Last edited by HeavyTrev; 09-17-2009 at 02:16 AM. Reason: Crap - this site was mentioned post #422 -- its a long thread though!
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-17-2009 , 05:27 PM
Here's a screenshot of a HH in which bcloud played in late July that he wanted me to show you. Note two players with usernames v followed by some digits.




There will be many more to follow, I have a bunch where the two v players were playing together with bcloud.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-17-2009 , 05:45 PM
Keep these coming please.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-17-2009 , 10:55 PM
The address that Pitbull Poker is using is an office building in Cyprus. They are not including their suite number in the address. My guess is that this is not even their real address.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-17-2009 , 11:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by indigophone
The address that Pitbull Poker is using is an office building in Cyprus. They are not including their suite number in the address. My guess is that this is not even their real address.
You evidently skipped quite a lot of the thread. Cyprus is just a shell (Dimensus Ltd) with no one there. Pitbull office and owners are in San Jose, Costa Rica and there's an address somewhere in this thread.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-18-2009 , 06:19 AM
the V and numbers are not superusers I can tell, but man of war he is a superuser....
if you can send me more of those lists I can tell you the superuser names just by seeing them.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-18-2009 , 06:30 AM
and they are located in SAN PEDRO, SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA, or at least they were there I used to work there they work under the name of mobius software....if this helps for something
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote
09-18-2009 , 07:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crckhead
and they are located in SAN PEDRO, SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA, or at least they were there I used to work there they work under the name of mobius software....if this helps for something
You just gained a little credibility crckhead. The domain mobiuscr.com is definitely them, it's one of Kevin's domains hosted on the pherx.com servers. So why won't you let the guys from PokerNewsDaily interview you? They have been sending you PMs.

Last edited by spadebidder; 09-18-2009 at 07:53 AM.
I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! Quote

      
m