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I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers! I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers!

08-05-2009 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jobless23
From what I have read and all your responses Dave I believe that mayde 5 people actually work at Pitbull Poker.
You mean the beautiful Nadine Daniels, my personal poker host... doesn't exist?
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08-05-2009 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RobH
You mean the beautiful Nadine Daniels, my personal poker host... doesn't exist?
You mean she wasn't all mine?
Everytime I saw that I wondered if they had "borrowed" her image from somewhere, but I never bothered looking.
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08-05-2009 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chesterboy
You mean she wasn't all mine?
I'll play you heads up for her.
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08-06-2009 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by chesterboy
***** Hand History for Game 104681653 *****
Omaha - Tue Jul 07 21:00:38 CST 2009
Table $1/$2 PL 'Cursed' Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 5: fluffychester ( 95.8 )
Seat 8: n1k3l ( 157.2 )
fluffychester posts small blind ( 0.5 )
n1k3l posts big blind ( 1 )
** Dealing down cards **
Cards fluffychester: [6d, Td, Ac, 5d]
fluffychester small ( 0.5 )
n1k3l big ( 1 )
fluffychester calls ( 1 )
n1k3l checks
** Dealing Flop ** [7s, 4s, Js]
...
I parsed the NLHE hands and put it into my database and noticed something annoying. See "fluffychester calls ( 1 )", you don't actually call 1 here but rather make it 1 total, which is different from other formats (which would say calls $0.5) and makes it harder to convert, otherwise I could've easily converted it into FTP format which is otherwise similar.

But let's say I write something to correct that what are you going to do with it in ftp/pokerstars format you can't do now? draw conclusions from holdemmanager/pokertracker?
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08-06-2009 , 08:54 AM
Yes, that will make it much easier to scan for patterns etc...
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08-06-2009 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by pbdave
spadebidder,

Believe it or not, we have to do a lot of manual work to get those hands right now. You are not really familiar with our system and they way it works, no matter how knowledgeable you are about technical issues, you are only speculating about the functionality of our servers.

We are doing all we can to become part of the solution.

Thank you,

Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Poker
Pitbull Partners
So then are you saying that you're NOT using some form of a transactional database to store player hands and histories? It shouldn't matter if your using SQL, Oracle, MySql, Access, DBase, Paradox or any other database format. We've been able to query databases for decades. If you aren't using a reliable database, you pretty much made a case as to exactly why players should not play at your site.

Lack of technology and security are major strikes against any internet gambling business. People want to feel safe playing at your site with regard to their funds and the legitimacy of the games they're playing at. You're not doing a very good job of providing that warm and fuzzy feeling that would make people want to play there.

The only way to fix your business is to deal with these issues and resolve it - fast. If your system is insecure and people are being cheated, you need to figure it out and fix it. The problem is that you're taking way too long to get to a point where you can even assess the situation. At this point you don't even know if any of the allegations are true and you have no way of figuring it out. You should just shut down your servers and resolve the issue for the benefit of your customers because you're not doing any justice to your business by remaining open and continuing to get nowhere in what really is a major issue. You're just continuing to expose yourselves to more liabilities.

How much money do you want to be responsible for refunding when you do figure this all out?
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08-06-2009 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CybrPunk

How much money do you want to be responsible for refunding when you do figure this all out?
HA yeah thats gonna happen.
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08-06-2009 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by djhemlig
But let's say I write something to correct that what are you going to do with it in ftp/pokerstars format you can't do now? draw conclusions from holdemmanager/pokertracker?
Yes, pt/hem is pretty much mandatory to figure out what is going on at PBP.
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08-06-2009 , 03:52 PM
Stating the obvious:
If PBP is unable to efficiently export a couple of hands from their database, that pretty much implies that they cant do any type of advanced cheating-detection.

Clearly, this would require them to fetch large number of hands from their database. But if they already had this implemented, there is no way exporting a couple of hands to text-format could be as much of a hassle as they claim it to be.

Maybe Dave can give us some insight how the "security team" is doing their work, if they dont even have the ability to fetch a bunch of hands from the database. Are they just manually reviewing hands one by one?
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08-06-2009 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
Stating the obvious:
If PBP is unable to efficiently export a couple of hands from their database, that pretty much implies that they cant do any type of advanced cheating-detection.

Clearly, this would require them to fetch large number of hands from their database. But if they already had this implemented, there is no way exporting a couple of hands to text-format could be as much of a hassle as they claim it to be.

Maybe Dave can give us some insight how the "security team" is doing their work, if they dont even have the ability to fetch a bunch of hands from the database. Are they just manually editing hands one by one in order to cover their asses?
FYP

And, yes.
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08-06-2009 , 04:24 PM
PBDave is MIA?
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08-06-2009 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
Stating the obvious:
If PBP is unable to efficiently export a couple of hands from their database, that pretty much implies that they cant do any type of advanced cheating-detection.

Clearly, this would require them to fetch large number of hands from their database. But if they already had this implemented, there is no way exporting a couple of hands to text-format could be as much of a hassle as they claim it to be.

Maybe Dave can give us some insight how the "security team" is doing their work, if they dont even have the ability to fetch a bunch of hands from the database. Are they just manually reviewing hands one by one?
Dave please reply to this post and I would appreciate a reply to my email.
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08-06-2009 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ashecounty
Dave please reply to this post and I would appreciate a reply to my email.
He said in the Pitbull Forum here on 2+2 he was no longer posting here!!!!
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08-06-2009 , 06:32 PM
[QUOTE]Guys,

I am here to clarify a few things for you:

1. I am not related to the excellent Brenes brothers. In Costa Rica, Brenes is a relatively common last name.
2. I am a real person, hired by Pitbull Gaming over a year ago to look after the network they were building and along the line I started to taking care of other tasks to eventually look after the forums with the idea of providing an additional support venue.
3. The HH policy is what I know; I follow the policies and terms that the company has set. I am not making new policies out of thin air. We have never sent HHs like the ones requested and has always been the same policy (at least since I joined the company).
4. I am not attempting to be deceitful with you guys or anyone, I was actually trying to be a mediator and resolve the conflict.
5. As of today I am not posting anymore and you will have to deal ONLY with Customer Support if you want to keep asking for HHs or ask for payouts or whatever you can think of.

Good bye

Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Gaming
Pitbull Poker
Pitbull Partners [QUOTE]
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08-06-2009 , 08:23 PM
That was many posts ago. He changed his mind and has been actively posting since then.
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08-06-2009 , 10:31 PM
Dave is on vacation. (not a joke)
Gotta love these guys.
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08-06-2009 , 11:53 PM
"Dave's not here, man."
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08-07-2009 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by plexiq View Post
Stating the obvious:
If PBP is unable to efficiently export a couple of hands from their database, that pretty much implies that they cant do any type of advanced cheating-detection.

Clearly, this would require them to fetch large number of hands from their database. But if they already had this implemented, there is no way exporting a couple of hands to text-format could be as much of a hassle as they claim it to be.

Maybe Dave can give us some insight how the "security team" is doing their work, if they dont even have the ability to fetch a bunch of hands from the database. Are they just manually reviewing hands one by one?
lol i would setup a collusion crew but damn, do they still proceed cashouts ?
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08-07-2009 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chesterboy
Dave is on vacation. (not a joke)
Gotta love these guys.
Just saw Dave's post on the "Pitbull Poker Support" thread. He's defintely here.
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08-07-2009 , 02:38 PM
http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/pitbul...egations-3974/

Dave's "interview" published today. He didn't go through with it, and sent a written statement that doesn't say much at all.
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08-07-2009 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cursed Diamonds
"Dave's not here, man."
No man I'M Dave, open up I got the hand histories..
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08-07-2009 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rurollin
No man I'M Dave, open up I got the hand histories..
Who is it? Dave's not here.
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08-07-2009 , 02:59 PM
So basically by the time they fix the system all evidence will be gone since it will only go 3 months back. Nice.
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08-07-2009 , 04:48 PM
They're Phucked anyways...nobody will ever play there again. Especially the way PBDave ran like that...
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